| Kolli online abuse 14:15 - Aug 7 with 26469 views | Rangersw12 |
What's a matter with people FFS
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| Kolli online abuse on 21:17 - Aug 7 with 2889 views | GaryT |
Our species has succeeded because we live as a society, the definition of which is “an enduring and cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of relationships through interaction with one another”. Some people don't feel the need to follow this convention and have decided that if they want to be openly racist, sexist and homophobic (to name a few), they will be. How this anti social behaviour is dealt with differs from country to country. Some call it “freedom of speech” and others call it “hate crimes” but the underlying message is that, whether what you are saying is legal or not, you are still an arsehole.
It's up to civilised societies not to tolerate anti social behaviour and the first step in doing that is to call it out. That does not mean turning the other cheek, ignoring it or turning it off. A bully, racist, sexist or homophobe that gets away with their behaviour feels empowered to do it again and worse than before.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”. |  | | |
| Kolli online abuse on 21:23 - Aug 7 with 2853 views | Phildo |
| Kolli online abuse on 21:17 - Aug 7 by GaryT |
Our species has succeeded because we live as a society, the definition of which is “an enduring and cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of relationships through interaction with one another”. Some people don't feel the need to follow this convention and have decided that if they want to be openly racist, sexist and homophobic (to name a few), they will be. How this anti social behaviour is dealt with differs from country to country. Some call it “freedom of speech” and others call it “hate crimes” but the underlying message is that, whether what you are saying is legal or not, you are still an arsehole.
It's up to civilised societies not to tolerate anti social behaviour and the first step in doing that is to call it out. That does not mean turning the other cheek, ignoring it or turning it off. A bully, racist, sexist or homophobe that gets away with their behaviour feels empowered to do it again and worse than before.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”. |
Very true. But the ignore thread thing on here was very welcome over the summer. |  | | |
| Kolli online abuse on 21:41 - Aug 7 with 2751 views | Lblock |
| Kolli online abuse on 21:17 - Aug 7 by GaryT |
Our species has succeeded because we live as a society, the definition of which is “an enduring and cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of relationships through interaction with one another”. Some people don't feel the need to follow this convention and have decided that if they want to be openly racist, sexist and homophobic (to name a few), they will be. How this anti social behaviour is dealt with differs from country to country. Some call it “freedom of speech” and others call it “hate crimes” but the underlying message is that, whether what you are saying is legal or not, you are still an arsehole.
It's up to civilised societies not to tolerate anti social behaviour and the first step in doing that is to call it out. That does not mean turning the other cheek, ignoring it or turning it off. A bully, racist, sexist or homophobe that gets away with their behaviour feels empowered to do it again and worse than before.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”. |
You think our species has succeeded?
No chance
I think we’re fcukd
The extremists on all sides are winning because as a species we are so reactionary and easily manipulated
It’s like we’ve gone back to medieval times with modern day witchcraft baying mobs on all sides |  |
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| Kolli online abuse on 22:01 - Aug 7 with 2630 views | kensalriser |
| Kolli online abuse on 18:12 - Aug 7 by dmm |
I have to say I agree that those on social media who post contrary, attention seeking comments should be ignored. And that goes for here too. |
Absolutely. There's nothing to be gained by interacting with fanatics on the internet, the only result is to give them further opportunity to spew up their filth. |  |
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| Kolli online abuse on 22:15 - Aug 7 with 2497 views | SheffieldHoop |
| Kolli online abuse on 19:18 - Aug 7 by queensparker |
For some reason I'm being reminded of this
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Improve society by going after children and/or drug addicts (We're not sure yet) shitposting on social media? Is that really the biggest concern in society right now?
I just find it utterly pathetic. Sorry. |  |
| "Someone despises me. That's their problem." Marcus Aurelius |
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| Kolli online abuse on 22:33 - Aug 7 with 2473 views | queensparker |
| Kolli online abuse on 22:15 - Aug 7 by SheffieldHoop |
Improve society by going after children and/or drug addicts (We're not sure yet) shitposting on social media? Is that really the biggest concern in society right now?
I just find it utterly pathetic. Sorry. |
Someone posts unwarranted racist abuse at Ryan Kolli. Completely out of order
Your defence over hundreds of words is “that’s our society right now, he should just ignore it”
I find that stance remarkable |  | | |
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| Kolli online abuse on 22:35 - Aug 7 with 2394 views | SheffieldHoop |
| Kolli online abuse on 22:33 - Aug 7 by queensparker |
Someone posts unwarranted racist abuse at Ryan Kolli. Completely out of order
Your defence over hundreds of words is “that’s our society right now, he should just ignore it”
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Isn't that precisely what society tells us to do? Just ignore it?
I don't believe Rayan Kolli or his father have any legitimate concerns because some child/drug addict called "QPR Xans" baselessly called Rayan a "terrorist sympathizer" on a social media post. I just don't. Sorry. [Post edited 7 Aug 22:44]
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| Kolli online abuse on 22:52 - Aug 7 with 2360 views | queensparker |
| Kolli online abuse on 22:35 - Aug 7 by SheffieldHoop |
Isn't that precisely what society tells us to do? Just ignore it?
I don't believe Rayan Kolli or his father have any legitimate concerns because some child/drug addict called "QPR Xans" baselessly called Rayan a "terrorist sympathizer" on a social media post. I just don't. Sorry. [Post edited 7 Aug 22:44]
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| Kolli online abuse on 22:55 - Aug 7 with 2346 views | saxbend |
| Kolli online abuse on 22:12 - Aug 7 by SheffieldHoop |
Ohhhh spicy. Is that what he was called, and for that reason? Are you sure? Shame it wasn't posted on here for us to see. Just a load of people bizarrely calling him Black? |
It might be that black people have a valid reason to distinguish between whatever words accurately describe Rayan Kolli and the racial category known as black. If they choose to offer an explanation of that reason, then the least we can do is listen. But, naive as it may be, I can't help feeling that telling someone who already gets a lot of people pointing out to him that he isn't white, also isn't black, isn't exactly the most constructive choice one can make.
That said, I could, should and will apply the same reasoning and lead myself to the conclusion that we can just easily treat Kolli like a white person, not least of all because we should be treating everyone the fûcking same anyway. |  | | |
| Kolli online abuse on 22:58 - Aug 7 with 2270 views | SheffieldHoop |
| Kolli online abuse on 22:52 - Aug 7 by queensparker |
Go and read Dorse’s post on page one |
Yeah, very sad, I'm all for parental control. Has nothing to do with anything I've said. | |
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| Kolli online abuse on 23:00 - Aug 7 with 2314 views | CiderwithRsie |
This is one of those weird threads where there is
- an OP referring to something offensive which seems to be mercifully blanked out; and
- loads of people calling out a poster who I'm ignoring. That seems to have been the wise decision.
The rest of you seem to be doing a decent job. | | | |
| Kolli online abuse on 23:00 - Aug 7 with 2313 views | queensparker |
| Kolli online abuse on 22:58 - Aug 7 by SheffieldHoop |
Yeah, very sad, I'm all for parental control. Has nothing to do with anything I've said. |
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| Kolli online abuse on 23:03 - Aug 7 with 2282 views | nix |
| Kolli online abuse on 17:53 - Aug 7 by SheffieldHoop |
Not really. I can just lock my door when I go out. It's a really quick, simple, and effective way to minimise the risk of being burgled.
Rayan Kolli could lock his social media if he wants. He can log out of it. He can simply look at other pages on social media instead. Loads of quick and effective ways to avoid being harmed by the abusive words on social media. [Post edited 7 Aug 17:56]
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It's not like that at all. A better analogy would be that you can't invite anyone around your house ever in case someone just happens to be a serial killer.
Young people use social media. It keeps them connected to their friends and wider friendship groups. It's not like being in your 30s and 40s.
By the way disagreeing with someone is not trolling. Being controversial for the sake of it goes dangerously close. People have literally died because they've been bullied on-line. No-one should have to put up with it and blaming the victims is shitty. |  | | |
| Kolli online abuse on 23:54 - Aug 7 with 2095 views | numptydumpty |
i saw on the news today, an idea to switch off social media, so to achieve a shut down of the organisation of rioting.
To me, a forum such as this could also be categorised as social media.
Any techies on here that would know how to close all possible social media sites accessible.
Sounds like a huge undertaking to me. |  |
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| Kolli online abuse on 00:21 - Aug 8 with 2022 views | E17hoop |
| Kolli online abuse on 23:00 - Aug 7 by CiderwithRsie |
This is one of those weird threads where there is
- an OP referring to something offensive which seems to be mercifully blanked out; and
- loads of people calling out a poster who I'm ignoring. That seems to have been the wise decision.
The rest of you seem to be doing a decent job. |
I logged out - saw who was posting, and logged back in. It makes for a much better LFW experience, ignoring people posting bóllocks. |  |
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| Kolli online abuse on 00:33 - Aug 8 with 1986 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Kolli online abuse on 19:43 - Aug 7 by LazyFan |
It's up to Kolli how he defines himself.
By the way, did you know that Trump has only recently become Orange?
I remember a time when he said he was just tanned like anyone else.
But to win favour with his base, he started saying he was of Orange descent.
He recently claimed he has always been His Orangness.
Well, that's up to him. I respect whether he wants to be Orange or not, but I would point out that he's only recently decided he's Orange, as he has not always claimed that.
You know, just asking innocent questions. |
"It's up to Kolli how he defines himself."
He was born in England and is of Algerian descent. He's Arab. |  | | |
| Kolli online abuse on 00:38 - Aug 8 with 1986 views | robith |
Man, I accidentally read this thread without being logged in.
Logs in
Ahhhh, that's better. There are people you disagree with, and there are bad faith actors. The skill is threading the needle [Post edited 8 Aug 0:38]
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| Kolli online abuse on 00:56 - Aug 8 with 1946 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Kolli online abuse on 22:55 - Aug 7 by saxbend |
It might be that black people have a valid reason to distinguish between whatever words accurately describe Rayan Kolli and the racial category known as black. If they choose to offer an explanation of that reason, then the least we can do is listen. But, naive as it may be, I can't help feeling that telling someone who already gets a lot of people pointing out to him that he isn't white, also isn't black, isn't exactly the most constructive choice one can make.
That said, I could, should and will apply the same reasoning and lead myself to the conclusion that we can just easily treat Kolli like a white person, not least of all because we should be treating everyone the fûcking same anyway. |
That's some weird logic, fella. You're unnecessarily overcomplicating matters and getting yourself into a twist on a topic you evidently know little about (and by your own reasoning, aren't qualified to speak on).
It's really quite simple. The lad was born in England but is of Algerian descent. Much like the vast majority of Algerians, he is Arab and their language is Arabic. Not everything is simply black or white. I should know; I have more races than Nascar.
That all being said, racism of any form is deplorable and those responsible for the abuse should face the appropriate consequences. | | | |
| Kolli online abuse on 02:24 - Aug 8 with 1910 views | saxbend |
Logic has nothing to do with it. I thought that would be obvious. | | | |
| Kolli online abuse on 03:08 - Aug 8 with 1896 views | SydneyRs |
Honestly, a lot of people blaming Farage etc for stoking this which is fair enough to a degree. But worse are certain media outlets and so called newspapers who've spent many years deliberately and carefully trying to create division and of course keep their owners rich and powerful.
With all this going on its hardly surprising that certain morons will take the opportunity to get out looking for trouble and rob cheap trash from shops etc. Just look at the people you see in the online clips, hardly the types that would have ever passed many tests at school. No hopers with miserable lives whose problems are always somebody else's fault. This facebook clown will be cut from the same cloth. But apparently they're just trying to protect a "way of life" as if any normal person would want their way of life.
Some of them were crying in court recently. Absolute melts. I actually feel a bit sorry for them as they don't have the ability to see they're being played. Farage will get richer, "Tommy" will take his family on holidays more often, Rupert will control most of the media and they'll have a poverty stricken life in and out of prison. [Post edited 8 Aug 3:19]
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| Kolli online abuse on 03:17 - Aug 8 with 1893 views | SydneyRs |
| Kolli online abuse on 23:00 - Aug 7 by CiderwithRsie |
This is one of those weird threads where there is
- an OP referring to something offensive which seems to be mercifully blanked out; and
- loads of people calling out a poster who I'm ignoring. That seems to have been the wise decision.
The rest of you seem to be doing a decent job. |
I'm also ignoring him. I wonder if anyone on here has met the guy and how they found him to be in person?
Its one thing having right leaning views, but it seems nothing is too far for this person to defend. [Post edited 8 Aug 6:35]
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| Kolli online abuse on 05:35 - Aug 8 with 1782 views | Gloucs_R |
Anonymous social media needs to be banned.
Personally preferred Facebook to X but that seems to be dying.
Appreciate I am posting this as Gloucester R!
Last night is another reason why social needs to change (and also the media).
I prefer the old days ☹️ |  |
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| Kolli online abuse on 07:21 - Aug 8 with 1596 views | Northernr |
| Kolli online abuse on 23:03 - Aug 7 by nix |
It's not like that at all. A better analogy would be that you can't invite anyone around your house ever in case someone just happens to be a serial killer.
Young people use social media. It keeps them connected to their friends and wider friendship groups. It's not like being in your 30s and 40s.
By the way disagreeing with someone is not trolling. Being controversial for the sake of it goes dangerously close. People have literally died because they've been bullied on-line. No-one should have to put up with it and blaming the victims is shitty. |
This is a good point which gets missed by the 'just delete it then' argument.
I had a conversation with Les Ferdinand after an interview with him where I said I thought footballers with social media were mad, I wouldn't go within 1000 feet of it if I was them, and they should just delete it.
He said he agreed, hates social media, doesn't use it himself, but...
He then said, 'if I told you to delete your WhatsApp, what would you say?' Now, as a 39-year-old bloke my life basically revolves around bloody WhatsApp. I've got two groups of QPR fans on there, all ticket and train booking is done through it and pub meets. I've got one for my team at work, and a broader company one. I've got one for my family, and one with my partner's family. I've got one for my Monday night football and another for my Wednesday team. Every new bloody wedding, birthday, day out gets a new group. If I were to delete it things would be logistically very different.
Les then points out these young lads aren't on Snap, Insta or whatever it is just to post video of their mega trix and "we go again" posts after we lose, it's how they communicate - with their friends, team mates, family.
They should be entitled to do that without some horrid little cnt sliding into their DMs with vile sht like this. |  | | |
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