| Welsh Covid inquiry 14:20 - Feb 27 with 7455 views | Flashberryjack |
I'm guessing it's Westminster's fault, either that or Brexit or even climate change. |  |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 13:56 - Mar 6 with 1158 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 13:31 - Mar 6 by Boundy |
Pity this thread has been derailed ,it could have been a lot more interesting than reading some of the comments on here |
Being a pre eminent well read and respected poster,I could get it back on track but the thread has gone stale and it’s basically boring .
Covid was unforeseen ,exceptional and painful in every way.
When stuck in it, we hoped every moment for a panacea and it came with a vaccine .
Frankly, we should be content with that .
Sadly, we see political points being brought to the fore .
They were unprecedented times and we should remember that in such times mistakes,misjudgements are made . |  |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 14:00 - Mar 6 with 1158 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 13:56 - Mar 6 by onehunglow |
Being a pre eminent well read and respected poster,I could get it back on track but the thread has gone stale and it’s basically boring .
Covid was unforeseen ,exceptional and painful in every way.
When stuck in it, we hoped every moment for a panacea and it came with a vaccine .
Frankly, we should be content with that .
Sadly, we see political points being brought to the fore .
They were unprecedented times and we should remember that in such times mistakes,misjudgements are made . |
The truth is that vaccines do help but it still needs other measures to be used for the best results.
Saying vaccines don't help is as daft as it gets. | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 14:05 - Mar 6 with 1142 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 14:00 - Mar 6 by SullutaCreturned |
The truth is that vaccines do help but it still needs other measures to be used for the best results.
Saying vaccines don't help is as daft as it gets. |
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We read that it’s not they don’t work but are dangerous per se | |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 14:24 - Mar 6 with 1140 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 14:05 - Mar 6 by onehunglow |
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We read that it’s not they don’t work but are dangerous per se |
Well I have an opinion on the covid vaccines that I wont share because it's not allowed on here now.
Suffice to say that not all medicines are helpful as we have seen with addictions, like the opioid epidemic in the USA which has been a problem over here too.
Big Pharma has to be watched and questioned because they are as greedy as anybody! | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 07:39 - Mar 7 with 1054 views | mangohilljack |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 14:24 - Mar 6 by SullutaCreturned |
Well I have an opinion on the covid vaccines that I wont share because it's not allowed on here now.
Suffice to say that not all medicines are helpful as we have seen with addictions, like the opioid epidemic in the USA which has been a problem over here too.
Big Pharma has to be watched and questioned because they are as greedy as anybody! |
Of course they are, a customer cured is a customer lost.
It's not rocket science | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 11:28 - Mar 7 with 1022 views | controversial_jack |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 07:39 - Mar 7 by mangohilljack |
Of course they are, a customer cured is a customer lost.
It's not rocket science |
I had 3 jabs and it didn't prevent me getting covid. Admittedly the second time it was mild, but that could be down to other factors, such as, the virus weakening, my immune system did the job or just luck | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 11:34 - Mar 7 with 1014 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 11:28 - Mar 7 by controversial_jack |
I had 3 jabs and it didn't prevent me getting covid. Admittedly the second time it was mild, but that could be down to other factors, such as, the virus weakening, my immune system did the job or just luck |
Or it could be the vaccination working. |  | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 11:40 - Mar 7 with 1007 views | mangohilljack |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 11:34 - Mar 7 by Whiterockin |
Or it could be the vaccination working. |
I believe it's highly unlikely based on the evidence out there. They know the truth is coming out now and from what I can see the distraction will be something big as they have a lot of baggage to get rid of. | | | |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:24 - Mar 7 with 984 views | controversial_jack |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 11:34 - Mar 7 by Whiterockin |
Or it could be the vaccination working. |
It didn't prevent transmission which is what a vaccine should do | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:33 - Mar 7 with 962 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:24 - Mar 7 by controversial_jack |
It didn't prevent transmission which is what a vaccine should do |
I believed that it would minimise the symptoms. | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 14:23 - Mar 7 with 920 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 11:40 - Mar 7 by mangohilljack |
I believe it's highly unlikely based on the evidence out there. They know the truth is coming out now and from what I can see the distraction will be something big as they have a lot of baggage to get rid of. |
So vaccinations do not work then and all the lives saved ,all those who didn’t lose loved ones …
Just down to luck then ? | |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:10 - Mar 13 with 764 views | felixstowe_jack |
Drakeford giving evidence today. Making a fool of himself as usual. He said that he tried to set up a meeting with the heads of the four Devolved Nations.
Think someone should tell him England does not have Devolution.
England is governed by the UK parliament sitting in Westminster. | |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:21 - Mar 13 with 751 views | JumpingJackFlash |
Johnson was an idiot for refusing a unified approach across GB to Covid. Covid doesn’t respect boundaries and with movement of people across those boundaries throughout it was ludicrous to expect different approaches to achieve different results.
He has, of course, admitted it now.
Drakeford was right about the need for a unified approach but then took a different approach to England whenever he could to justify his existence. We’re being ruled by political pigmies everywhere we look. | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:51 - Mar 13 with 738 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:21 - Mar 13 by JumpingJackFlash |
Johnson was an idiot for refusing a unified approach across GB to Covid. Covid doesn’t respect boundaries and with movement of people across those boundaries throughout it was ludicrous to expect different approaches to achieve different results.
He has, of course, admitted it now.
Drakeford was right about the need for a unified approach but then took a different approach to England whenever he could to justify his existence. We’re being ruled by political pigmies everywhere we look. |
Imagine the backlash if Boris or Westminster had tried to interfere or dictate on devolved matters? All the fundamental flaws with devolution were laid naked and exposed by the pandemic. |  |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 13:32 - Mar 13 with 718 views | JumpingJackFlash |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:51 - Mar 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Imagine the backlash if Boris or Westminster had tried to interfere or dictate on devolved matters? All the fundamental flaws with devolution were laid naked and exposed by the pandemic. |
The devolved nations were the ones asking for a unified approach. Johnson has now admitted that he was wrong to refuse to meet them. | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 16:01 - Mar 13 with 672 views | Dr_Winston |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 13:32 - Mar 13 by JumpingJackFlash |
The devolved nations were the ones asking for a unified approach. Johnson has now admitted that he was wrong to refuse to meet them. |
How long do you think that "unified" approach would have lasted with Bampi Wales and Sturgeon wanting to lock down every five minutes s opposed to Westminster doing its best to avoid it? |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 16:04 - Mar 13 with 669 views | JumpingJackFlash |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 16:01 - Mar 13 by Dr_Winston |
How long do you think that "unified" approach would have lasted with Bampi Wales and Sturgeon wanting to lock down every five minutes s opposed to Westminster doing its best to avoid it? |
Do you actually think that's the important point here? | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 16:06 - Mar 13 with 668 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 16:01 - Mar 13 by Dr_Winston |
How long do you think that "unified" approach would have lasted with Bampi Wales and Sturgeon wanting to lock down every five minutes s opposed to Westminster doing its best to avoid it? |
They couldn’t even unify wales with their bizarrely ludicrous county lockdowns. | |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 17:16 - Mar 13 with 625 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 16:04 - Mar 13 by JumpingJackFlash |
Do you actually think that's the important point here? |
Drakeford was very proudly announcing , we do things differently in Wales.
The only reason he wanted a unified approach was so he could blame Westminster. He would have diverged from a unified approach at every opportunity. | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 17:18 - Mar 13 with 623 views | Dr_Winston |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 17:16 - Mar 13 by SullutaCreturned |
Drakeford was very proudly announcing , we do things differently in Wales.
The only reason he wanted a unified approach was so he could blame Westminster. He would have diverged from a unified approach at every opportunity. |
Precisely. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 17:21 - Mar 13 with 619 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
At least they are all completely unified in their ability to delete incriminating WhatsApp messages. | |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 17:36 - Mar 13 with 611 views | Dr_Winston |
Officially around 12,600 people in Wales have died either from Covid or with Covid listed as a contributory factor.
No official figures exist for people who died of something else entirely but got lumped in with the Covid numbers courtesy of a positive hospital test because they just happened to be there at the time. I know of at least four, including one where the family challenged the death cert. [Post edited 13 Mar 17:50]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 17:53 - Mar 13 with 598 views | Dr_Winston |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 16:04 - Mar 13 by JumpingJackFlash |
Do you actually think that's the important point here? |
It is the most important point. Drakeford is doing what he always does, what he did daily during the pandemic. Namely being far more interested in pointing the finger and scoring points against Westminster than in doing his job properly.
He's hoping (not without quite a bit of justification given the general standard of the Welsh electorate) that by doing so enough people will be convinced and thus not look too closely at his own performance. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Welsh Covid inquiry on 18:14 - Mar 13 with 576 views | Luther27 |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 17:16 - Mar 13 by SullutaCreturned |
Drakeford was very proudly announcing , we do things differently in Wales.
The only reason he wanted a unified approach was so he could blame Westminster. He would have diverged from a unified approach at every opportunity. |
Playing politics while people died through the ignorance and arrogance of these intellectual pygmies.
These enquiries are now laying bare the lack of morals and competence of our political ruling class. | | | |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 20:17 - Mar 13 with 531 views | majorraglan |
| Welsh Covid inquiry on 12:10 - Mar 13 by felixstowe_jack |
Drakeford giving evidence today. Making a fool of himself as usual. He said that he tried to set up a meeting with the heads of the four Devolved Nations.
Think someone should tell him England does not have Devolution.
England is governed by the UK parliament sitting in Westminster. |
Referring to 4 devolved nations wasn’t right, but the point he makes about setting up a meeting of the leaders of the 4 parliaments /assembles is sensible. There should have been closer cooperation and joint working. | | | |
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