| Ainsworth 17:14 - Sep 30 with 137569 views | Gloucs_R |
Needs to be a discussion had.....
The squad we've got are not bottom 3.
We're getting tactically outmanoeuvred at home almost every time we play.
It's not a lack of experience in the team anymore. A lack of firepower, possibly, but we should be better than this.
Edit, perhaps I should have said our starting xi are not bottom 3. I agree, the overall squad is poor. [Post edited 30 Sep 2023 17:29]
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| Ainsworth on 09:46 - Oct 8 with 2987 views | Hoopsie |
This. My thoughts too
I was big on motivation thing that Ainsworth keeps espousing - the camaraderie, the haka, protecting the boys, it’s my fault not theirs, empty the tanks, boys gave it all - which I thought was severely lacking in last year’s squad that fell apart after Beale departed and dropped like a ton of rocks down the table.
I truly believe our squad is a decent XI but overall weak. However, we shouldn’t be easily picked off especially at home. Ainsworth, sadly, is devoid of any tactical nous and virtually no game plan and that is utterly telling.
I still believe with a good tactical coach that organised a team, this squad wouldn’t be bottom 3, maybe lower league table position but if coached well they should be ok
Not with Ainsworth, unfortunately . And that is the truth. Love the man, but his time is up. |  |
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| Ainsworth on 09:52 - Oct 8 with 2915 views | Rangersw12 |
| Ainsworth on 09:46 - Oct 8 by Hoopsie |
This. My thoughts too
I was big on motivation thing that Ainsworth keeps espousing - the camaraderie, the haka, protecting the boys, it’s my fault not theirs, empty the tanks, boys gave it all - which I thought was severely lacking in last year’s squad that fell apart after Beale departed and dropped like a ton of rocks down the table.
I truly believe our squad is a decent XI but overall weak. However, we shouldn’t be easily picked off especially at home. Ainsworth, sadly, is devoid of any tactical nous and virtually no game plan and that is utterly telling.
I still believe with a good tactical coach that organised a team, this squad wouldn’t be bottom 3, maybe lower league table position but if coached well they should be ok
Not with Ainsworth, unfortunately . And that is the truth. Love the man, but his time is up. |
Is this squad worse than JFH , Holloway's or Mclaren's ?
For me he it isn't so it's down to the manager not getting the best out of this set of players . |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 09:55 - Oct 8 with 2896 views | Rangersw12 |
| Ainsworth on 09:45 - Oct 8 by GaryBannister86 |
If he isn't sacked today then we really don't have the money to do so or our owners have completely checked out. No manager can survive this, surely?
We desperately need someone new to get the players that we know can play (Chair, Willock, Dykes) playing again. You know, by being radical and playing them in their best positions and not just lumping the ball 10 foot over their heads. |
I would be on the phone to Warburton now with a begging bowl offering him a big bonus if he kept us up | | | |
| Ainsworth on 09:57 - Oct 8 with 2884 views | DejR_vu |
| Ainsworth on 09:45 - Oct 8 by GaryBannister86 |
If he isn't sacked today then we really don't have the money to do so or our owners have completely checked out. No manager can survive this, surely?
We desperately need someone new to get the players that we know can play (Chair, Willock, Dykes) playing again. You know, by being radical and playing them in their best positions and not just lumping the ball 10 foot over their heads. |
Hmm, odd how that moment of ‘self-reflection’ after the Watford debacle, resulting in an epiphany, setting the team up to the players’ strengths to get the best out of them, has gone out the window.
GA doesn’t have a clue. He says stuff then contradicts himself. But, he hasn’t changed, he was always limited, so you can’t blame him for being limited. GA is making a very bad situation, of the owners’ and DoF’s making, worse. He needs to go, but you just know the owners will just make another disastrous decision. | |
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| Ainsworth on 10:44 - Oct 8 with 2701 views | Jevlar |
Does anyone think GA is starting to lose the dressing room? Something I noticed in yesterday's game was JCS always looking to pass to feet ahead rather than hit the channels a la John Beck's Cambridge United and getting frustrated.
Clutching at straws from me I guess, but I do think a different coach could get a bit more of a tune out of this squad.
We are still desperate for someone that can finish even if GA were to be let go. Unfair to load it all on Armstrong and whilst I like Dykes he isn't a double figures goal scorer.
At the risk of sounding like someone on social media saying 'Sign a striker' we do need another option up top...
Apologies - rambling post - just trying to make sense of it all. Going to LR right now and witnessing that showing is not a pleasant experience! [Post edited 8 Oct 2023 10:44]
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| Ainsworth on 10:53 - Oct 8 with 2629 views | ted_hendrix |
Well he's still here. |  |
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| Ainsworth on 10:54 - Oct 8 with 2627 views | Northernr |
| Ainsworth on 10:44 - Oct 8 by Jevlar |
Does anyone think GA is starting to lose the dressing room? Something I noticed in yesterday's game was JCS always looking to pass to feet ahead rather than hit the channels a la John Beck's Cambridge United and getting frustrated.
Clutching at straws from me I guess, but I do think a different coach could get a bit more of a tune out of this squad.
We are still desperate for someone that can finish even if GA were to be let go. Unfair to load it all on Armstrong and whilst I like Dykes he isn't a double figures goal scorer.
At the risk of sounding like someone on social media saying 'Sign a striker' we do need another option up top...
Apologies - rambling post - just trying to make sense of it all. Going to LR right now and witnessing that showing is not a pleasant experience! [Post edited 8 Oct 2023 10:44]
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Our impression at Leeds was the players were distinctly unhappy and unimpressed with what they were being asked to do, particularly Dykes, Cook and JCS. A lot of big exasperated sighs and arms flaps at each other and the other players. I can't imagine players like Cook and Colback who've played at the level they have want to be punting channel balls for Dykes to try and flick on to Sinclair Armstrong.
That team selection yesterday was legitimately insane. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 10:57 - Oct 8 with 2605 views | ted_hendrix |
| Ainsworth on 10:44 - Oct 8 by Jevlar |
Does anyone think GA is starting to lose the dressing room? Something I noticed in yesterday's game was JCS always looking to pass to feet ahead rather than hit the channels a la John Beck's Cambridge United and getting frustrated.
Clutching at straws from me I guess, but I do think a different coach could get a bit more of a tune out of this squad.
We are still desperate for someone that can finish even if GA were to be let go. Unfair to load it all on Armstrong and whilst I like Dykes he isn't a double figures goal scorer.
At the risk of sounding like someone on social media saying 'Sign a striker' we do need another option up top...
Apologies - rambling post - just trying to make sense of it all. Going to LR right now and witnessing that showing is not a pleasant experience! [Post edited 8 Oct 2023 10:44]
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| Ainsworth on 10:57 - Oct 8 with 2602 views | daveB |
To pick a left back at right back was mental yesterday, poor kid was thrown under the bus
To then not make any changes until we were 4-0 down I just despair.
If he loves the club as much as he claims to he should resign and save the club a pay out
Out of his depth at QPR, been an absolute disaster
yesterday the worst I've ever seen and I've seen some right old shit over the years but that was a top of the tree grade A make you want to jump off a building performance. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 10:59 - Oct 8 with 2593 views | leananger |
"We are still desperate for someone that can finish even if GA were to be let go. Unfair to load it all on Armstrong and whilst I like Dykes he isn't a double figures goal scorer."
Who are our chance providers? | | | |
| Ainsworth on 11:05 - Oct 8 with 2527 views | traininvain |
| Ainsworth on 10:57 - Oct 8 by daveB |
To pick a left back at right back was mental yesterday, poor kid was thrown under the bus
To then not make any changes until we were 4-0 down I just despair.
If he loves the club as much as he claims to he should resign and save the club a pay out
Out of his depth at QPR, been an absolute disaster
yesterday the worst I've ever seen and I've seen some right old shit over the years but that was a top of the tree grade A make you want to jump off a building performance. |
Yeah I was surprised not to see any subs at the start of the second half. Not sure if Ainsworth froze or if he was making some kind of point but it was one of the most bizarre decisions I’ve seen from a qpr manager and that’s saying something.
Starting Duke McKenna and Larkeche was completely wrong given the circumstances and their inexperience. They were taking pelters from plenty of fans sat near me and that’s on the manager. He’s completely out of his depth. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 11:10 - Oct 8 with 2490 views | derbyhoop |
| Ainsworth on 21:28 - Oct 6 by stainrods_elbow |
Then why not - here's a thought - have the audacity to look at managers who actually coach and get the best out of what they've got rather than cheque-book/'Arry types? |
Like Critchley? |  |
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| Ainsworth on 11:15 - Oct 8 with 2438 views | QPRConor2000 |
I just cannot fathom why Ainsworth should stay as the manager of this club.
The players yesterday clearly are not playing for him, there is no identity, no leadership, no direction, no set vision ether.
Ainsworth said when he came in that he wanted players to fight for him, where is that fight? There isnt any!
Ainsworth will always be a well regarded player and all that, and with a two week international break now, its time to make a change, cause it just isn't working under Ainsworth.
Amit, if your reading this then please, please get rid of Ainsworth now, the players clearly dont want him and the fans have had enough of it. | | | |
| Ainsworth on 11:19 - Oct 8 with 2408 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Ainsworth on 10:57 - Oct 8 by daveB |
To pick a left back at right back was mental yesterday, poor kid was thrown under the bus
To then not make any changes until we were 4-0 down I just despair.
If he loves the club as much as he claims to he should resign and save the club a pay out
Out of his depth at QPR, been an absolute disaster
yesterday the worst I've ever seen and I've seen some right old shit over the years but that was a top of the tree grade A make you want to jump off a building performance. |
Playing that lad at right was absolute nuts, how GA ever thought that was a good idea is beyond me. Could of put Kakay, Drewe or even Adomah rather than do that. Talk about confidence destroyed.
As for sticking Chair on the wing. Anyone at Wimbledon preseason game could see it didn't work, yet here we are in October.
He should resign. | | | |
| Ainsworth on 11:22 - Oct 8 with 2390 views | Hoopsie |
| Ainsworth on 10:59 - Oct 8 by leananger |
"We are still desperate for someone that can finish even if GA were to be let go. Unfair to load it all on Armstrong and whilst I like Dykes he isn't a double figures goal scorer."
Who are our chance providers? |
I share you concerns, but
Our top scorer is Paal, a left back, and then Colback
I think if we get our tactics right and attacking plan together, there are goals in the team, perhaps not relying solely on the strikers? | |
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| Ainsworth on 11:31 - Oct 8 with 2339 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Ainsworth on 10:57 - Oct 8 by daveB |
To pick a left back at right back was mental yesterday, poor kid was thrown under the bus
To then not make any changes until we were 4-0 down I just despair.
If he loves the club as much as he claims to he should resign and save the club a pay out
Out of his depth at QPR, been an absolute disaster
yesterday the worst I've ever seen and I've seen some right old shit over the years but that was a top of the tree grade A make you want to jump off a building performance. |
My thoughts exactly,
No substitutions until whenever and to not put a passing move together until the 85th odd minute is beyond belief,
It was clear he has lost the dressing room by Chair's behaviour yesterday, Colback was doing his best to coach players around him during the game as had'nt been done on the training ground, whilst Dozzell and Clarke Salter strolled around obviously not giving a flying fxxk,
If Ainsworth thinks success is solely down to heart + desire I suggest he takes up cage-fighting, he'll soon find out without proper training, technique and a game-plan, all the heart in the world won't save you from a hiding, which is what we got yesterday.
Time to go. If he had any dignity he would resign now and let the club use the international break to find a replacement. | | | |
| Ainsworth on 11:32 - Oct 8 with 2339 views | Hoopsie |
| Ainsworth on 11:15 - Oct 8 by QPRConor2000 |
I just cannot fathom why Ainsworth should stay as the manager of this club.
The players yesterday clearly are not playing for him, there is no identity, no leadership, no direction, no set vision ether.
Ainsworth said when he came in that he wanted players to fight for him, where is that fight? There isnt any!
Ainsworth will always be a well regarded player and all that, and with a two week international break now, its time to make a change, cause it just isn't working under Ainsworth.
Amit, if your reading this then please, please get rid of Ainsworth now, the players clearly dont want him and the fans have had enough of it. |
I think the buy in is now a sell out
You will fight for a charismatic manager however if you are sent out to be outplayed each time, players will eventually turn against the manager. | |
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| Ainsworth on 11:46 - Oct 8 with 2261 views | DejR_vu |
| Ainsworth on 10:54 - Oct 8 by Northernr |
Our impression at Leeds was the players were distinctly unhappy and unimpressed with what they were being asked to do, particularly Dykes, Cook and JCS. A lot of big exasperated sighs and arms flaps at each other and the other players. I can't imagine players like Cook and Colback who've played at the level they have want to be punting channel balls for Dykes to try and flick on to Sinclair Armstrong.
That team selection yesterday was legitimately insane. |
Holloway was seen getting the Tombola out of the boot of his car when he arrived for the reunion. | |
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| Ainsworth on 11:46 - Oct 8 with 2263 views | Rs_Holy |
I was firmly in the ‘stick with GA’ camp all the the way until around 3:45 yesterday…
Gareth, I love you mate but it’s time to move on. Yesterday’s episode was embarrassing for just about everyone concerned… we need to get back to some proper football fundamentals. This squad is almost certainly going down but let’s do it playing some structured, tactical footy…
My current biggest fear is it’s going to get even worse than yesterday when we play Leicester. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 11:58 - Oct 8 with 2176 views | Hoopsie |
| Ainsworth on 11:46 - Oct 8 by Rs_Holy |
I was firmly in the ‘stick with GA’ camp all the the way until around 3:45 yesterday…
Gareth, I love you mate but it’s time to move on. Yesterday’s episode was embarrassing for just about everyone concerned… we need to get back to some proper football fundamentals. This squad is almost certainly going down but let’s do it playing some structured, tactical footy…
My current biggest fear is it’s going to get even worse than yesterday when we play Leicester. |
Even if we would have a “Burnley moment” against Leicester (if that’s what Ainsworth is hoping for), let’s be honest, it won’t last.
Blackburn couldn’t come earlier, and the club must not wait further- pull the plug
PS * we got undone easily by a team that lost their last 4 and weren’t particularly firing upfront. It pains me to state that [Post edited 8 Oct 2023 12:15]
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| Ainsworth on 12:14 - Oct 8 with 2057 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Ainsworth on 11:10 - Oct 8 by derbyhoop |
Like Critchley? |
Yeah, on paper at least, just like Critchley. I don't know why it didn't work out for him at QPR, or if it would have had he stayed longer than five minutes. You'd need to ask him and/or our so-called players. |  |
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| Ainsworth on 12:40 - Oct 8 with 1969 views | Third_Division_South |
| Ainsworth on 12:14 - Oct 8 by stainrods_elbow |
Yeah, on paper at least, just like Critchley. I don't know why it didn't work out for him at QPR, or if it would have had he stayed longer than five minutes. You'd need to ask him and/or our so-called players. |
I’ve been a supporter of Ainsworth since he arrived but after yesterday I can’t defend him anymore. It looks like Wayne Rooney is about to be appointed at Brum, would Eustace return? | | | |
| Ainsworth on 12:51 - Oct 8 with 1901 views | kensalriser |
The sad, not to mention stupid, thing about all of this is how entirely predictable it was. I said at the beginning he would likely be gone in October, it was just so obvious it wasn't working last season. And the three year deal was once again the peak numbskullery we've seen from this board time and time again. |  |
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| Ainsworth on 13:31 - Oct 8 with 1776 views | PastCaringNW2 |
| Ainsworth on 12:40 - Oct 8 by Third_Division_South |
I’ve been a supporter of Ainsworth since he arrived but after yesterday I can’t defend him anymore. It looks like Wayne Rooney is about to be appointed at Brum, would Eustace return? |
Eustace? Knowing us we'd make him manager and hire Warbs as his assistant. Very 1996. |  | | |
| Ainsworth on 13:36 - Oct 8 with 1753 views | Match82 |
| Ainsworth on 09:20 - Oct 8 by PastCaringNW2 |
An appeasement appointment has appeasement consequences.
The club's endless fueling of nostalgia for 67, 76, 82, 04 is also part of the problem or rather an exercise in distraction. Forever Rs is a beautiful thing but also has a role in keeping people docile.
We needed a forward-thinking strategy, heavy on data and Individualised coaching with a high degree of risk-reward. We got the Dad Rock strategy instead complete with the endless repackaging of the back catalogue.
Right now we would struggle to get a Luke Garrard or even a Gareth Taylor ( speaking of nostalgia! ) to come here. Emma Hayes probably wouldn't even take the meeting.
Still you can always buy a 96 relegation season away shirt to cheer yourself up and all those home defeats now feel depressingly familiar. And dare.I say that was another season when owners were looking to get out from under at the least possible expense to themselves.
And we let Warbs go for this??? |
Under Warbs was the closest I've felt in decades to truly having our Rangers back.
But Warburton is as responsible as anyone for the situation we find ourselves in financially, we pushed the boat out on his reassurance we'd go up and we didn't achieve that, that's why he's not here.
I'd still take him back though, even in a DOF role. |  | | |
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