| Luke Freeman.....on a free? 11:53 - Aug 24 with 9234 views | Doudou87 |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 16:27 - Aug 24 with 2488 views | eastside_r |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 16:13 - Aug 24 by BAWHoops |
Depends what happens re Willock and Chair.
If they go late in the window and we have v few options then perhaps.
We know he's the 'right sort' and can certainly do a job in that hustling/creative role.
Needs to be low wages though as there's zero sell on fee |
Agree with this.
Also, with 5 subs, we wouldn’t necessarily be asking (or wanting) to play him for 100 minutes, twice a week. |  | | |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 16:36 - Aug 24 with 2410 views | LazyFan |
The problem with Freeman is this ...
When he joined us from Brizzle it was clear he was overweight, but as we saw he decided to sort that out, get super fit and then he was Prem class with the skill he had. He even increased his speed so, he was not exactly fast, but no longer slow. Able to get up and down the pitch quickly as he did on that night against Leeds.
Since leaving us, he has once again put on weight and not looked after himself and then injuries of course have made it worse.
It all down to him, if he can get super fit (which is mental strength as well as physical) then he has the skill (as he's that good) to get into every team in the Champ.
However, I think that time at QPR was a one off, whereby he got himself in superb condition and that why we saw the best of him and that is unlikely to happen again.
If, he were somehow able to prove he could get himself in shape (dunno how he cou7ld do that before signing on) then yes he would be a great signing and keep us up as he's that good. |  |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 16:51 - Aug 24 with 2359 views | kensalriser |
A player unavailable for selection is the worst player in the world. So we should probably learn from our very long experience of signing players who aren't available for selection very frequently not to sign more of them. [Post edited 24 Aug 2023 16:58]
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 16:56 - Aug 24 with 2343 views | WokingR |
It's a no from me, regardless of fitness.
For every Leeds type performance there were 3 or 4 times as many where I remember him just throwing his hands in the air like some frustrated/petulant child.
Imagine how frustrating he'll find this lot |  | | |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 17:47 - Aug 24 with 2197 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 16:36 - Aug 24 by LazyFan |
The problem with Freeman is this ...
When he joined us from Brizzle it was clear he was overweight, but as we saw he decided to sort that out, get super fit and then he was Prem class with the skill he had. He even increased his speed so, he was not exactly fast, but no longer slow. Able to get up and down the pitch quickly as he did on that night against Leeds.
Since leaving us, he has once again put on weight and not looked after himself and then injuries of course have made it worse.
It all down to him, if he can get super fit (which is mental strength as well as physical) then he has the skill (as he's that good) to get into every team in the Champ.
However, I think that time at QPR was a one off, whereby he got himself in superb condition and that why we saw the best of him and that is unlikely to happen again.
If, he were somehow able to prove he could get himself in shape (dunno how he cou7ld do that before signing on) then yes he would be a great signing and keep us up as he's that good. |
As Marvin Hagler put it, "It's tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you've been sleeping in silk pyjamas." |  | | |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 18:44 - Aug 24 with 2006 views | NorthantsHoop |
Never really happened for him since he left us, but you could not blame him for giving it a go. As has been said earlier got himself fit at Rangers and it paid off, never really fitted at Sheff Utd for whatever reason, fitness, Wilder just saw him as a squad player and has just spent last couple of years or so being loaned out until Luton signed him. Should we re-sign him, possibly if Chair is sold by the end of the window and hope we can get him fit, although our record in getting players fit does not bode well. |  | | |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 20:16 - Aug 24 with 1875 views | baz_qpr |
Struggling to remember a single instance where a player came back and was even half as good as the first time |  | | |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 20:20 - Aug 24 with 1867 views | Antti_Heinola |
Routledge |  |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 21:01 - Aug 24 with 1736 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 20:16 - Aug 24 by baz_qpr |
Struggling to remember a single instance where a player came back and was even half as good as the first time |
Furlong |  |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 22:33 - Aug 24 with 1575 views | loftboy |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 20:16 - Aug 24 by baz_qpr |
Struggling to remember a single instance where a player came back and was even half as good as the first time |
Gallen wasn’t too shoddy. |  |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 22:43 - Aug 24 with 1539 views | rbee |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 16:13 - Aug 24 by BAWHoops |
Depends what happens re Willock and Chair.
If they go late in the window and we have v few options then perhaps.
We know he's the 'right sort' and can certainly do a job in that hustling/creative role.
Needs to be low wages though as there's zero sell on fee |
Depends on what happens re Willock, Chair and Eze!
Luke played his best football with us and hasn't played regular football since. A yes from me if Chris or Illias move on or Eze gets sold. |  | | |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 23:15 - Aug 24 with 1449 views | Hoopsie |
Over 30 - checked
Released on a free - checked
Not played regularly for more than 6 months - checked
Former player that played well - checked
Why not.
Sign of times |  |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 23:31 - Aug 24 with 1421 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 20:16 - Aug 24 by baz_qpr |
Struggling to remember a single instance where a player came back and was even half as good as the first time |
Even if Luke were to return half as good as his first stint, that would still be better than many of the players we're currently fielding. | | | |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 00:34 - Aug 25 with 1355 views | DejR_vu |
Surely, the logical thinking here should be
1) is there a fee? ‘No’, go to 2
2) what are his salary demands and can we meet them? If he can get more elsewhere, that’s the end of it. Otherwise, go to 3
3) is he better than we’ve got in a position we’re short in? It seems to me unless Chair or Willock go, that’s a no.
4) If one goes, is there anyone in-house that’s better than him. Looking at our bench, for different reasons, that looks like a ‘no’
5) can we find a better option for the same money elsewhere? I’m sure they’re out there, I seriously doubt we’d be able to find them
5) can we keep him fit?
He left us for one Premier League club, and last season played for another that got promoted to the Prem. If he’s good enough for them, I’m not sure why we should be turning our noses up at him.
Given our predicament and inability to unearth lower league gems with resale value, I don’t understand how we can be so picky on the basis that he played for us once, was our best player, but might not be as good this time around. | |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 01:00 - Aug 25 with 1330 views | kensalriser |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 00:34 - Aug 25 by DejR_vu |
Surely, the logical thinking here should be
1) is there a fee? ‘No’, go to 2
2) what are his salary demands and can we meet them? If he can get more elsewhere, that’s the end of it. Otherwise, go to 3
3) is he better than we’ve got in a position we’re short in? It seems to me unless Chair or Willock go, that’s a no.
4) If one goes, is there anyone in-house that’s better than him. Looking at our bench, for different reasons, that looks like a ‘no’
5) can we find a better option for the same money elsewhere? I’m sure they’re out there, I seriously doubt we’d be able to find them
5) can we keep him fit?
He left us for one Premier League club, and last season played for another that got promoted to the Prem. If he’s good enough for them, I’m not sure why we should be turning our noses up at him.
Given our predicament and inability to unearth lower league gems with resale value, I don’t understand how we can be so picky on the basis that he played for us once, was our best player, but might not be as good this time around. |
Because, again, it doesn't matter how theoretically good he might be if he's not available for selection half the time. | |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 07:58 - Aug 25 with 1199 views | BushRanger82 |
No.
Hardly set the world alight since leaving us, has he?
When we make a move to sign a player, we must be as sure as we can be, that player will improve our team/squad.
Just don't think Freeman would do that. |  | | |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 08:07 - Aug 25 with 1178 views | HAYESBOY |
If we got back the Luke Freeman we had then yes. But I in reality he is not the player he was. |  |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 08:42 - Aug 25 with 1113 views | DejR_vu |
| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 01:00 - Aug 25 by kensalriser |
Because, again, it doesn't matter how theoretically good he might be if he's not available for selection half the time. |
Agreed, which is why the last question was ‘can we keep him fit?’. All the boxes would/should need to be ticked. | |
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| Luke Freeman.....on a free? on 08:52 - Aug 25 with 1071 views | dmm |
A no from me too, for all the reasons already stated.
Also, if we can afford more player wages the priorities are surely a RWB and/or a striker. Ainsworth latest on incoming players is pretty negative so it's looking like we might be done anyway. |  | | |
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