| Reading on 12:26 - Jun 16 with 7276 views | Juzzie |
Football is f**ked.
What made English football in particular so strong, so buoyant, so competitive was the fact we had four divisions, with healthy support (especially compared to the lower divison's of all the other stronger European leagues bar possibly Germany) and on the whole an extremely enjoyable sport.
This has been completely wrecked over the last 30 years and I fear more clubs could go to the wall. Yes, we all have our pet hates but do we really want to see this (maybe Chelsea aside for a whole host of reasons)?
I'm actually of the thinking I would like to see a European Super League created but on the condition that once they f**k off they can't come back. Yes, it would mean if a club like QPR were to ever get back to the PL we won't be playing the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea but those clubs are no longer what they were in the 80's and 90's so it probably won't make any difference and could make the PL more competitive as it's really just become the English equivalent of the SPL and many other European highest Leagues are the same too which the same clubs just hoovering up everything.
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| Reading on 12:35 - Jun 16 with 7214 views | qpr1976 |
Same EFL who presumably decided Yongge Dai should pass their ‘stringent’ fit & proper persons test ?
Blackpool, Hull, Wigan, Luton (Gurney/F1/Manager Idol), Oldham, Bolton, Birmingham…..
Laughable if it didn’t keep happening . |  | | |
| Reading on 22:36 - Jun 22 with 6257 views | aston_hoop |
Reading are in big trouble I reckon
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| Reading on 22:16 - Jun 27 with 5456 views | LazyFan |
As I stated before, relegation could be the end of the fakes. Interest rate are super high so, zero chance of a loan me thinks.
Tom Ince on free maybe? Bit old so, wages would have to be low, but he may do that as he needs a club. Any others worth taking? |  |
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| Reading on 22:21 - Jun 27 with 5431 views | aston_hoop |
| Reading on 22:16 - Jun 27 by LazyFan |
As I stated before, relegation could be the end of the fakes. Interest rate are super high so, zero chance of a loan me thinks.
Tom Ince on free maybe? Bit old so, wages would have to be low, but he may do that as he needs a club. Any others worth taking? |
Ince joined Watford. His dad will probably manage them at some point this season | |
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| Reading on 16:24 - Jun 28 with 5047 views | LazyFan |
| Reading on 22:21 - Jun 27 by aston_hoop |
Ince joined Watford. His dad will probably manage them at some point this season |
Thanks for letting me know, sine they went down I don't bother watching em anymore as I expect them to implode. | |
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| Reading on 16:28 - Jun 28 with 5029 views | kensalriser |
Which month do you think? |  |
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| Reading on 16:46 - Jun 28 with 4932 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Reading on 12:26 - Jun 16 by Juzzie |
Football is f**ked.
What made English football in particular so strong, so buoyant, so competitive was the fact we had four divisions, with healthy support (especially compared to the lower divison's of all the other stronger European leagues bar possibly Germany) and on the whole an extremely enjoyable sport.
This has been completely wrecked over the last 30 years and I fear more clubs could go to the wall. Yes, we all have our pet hates but do we really want to see this (maybe Chelsea aside for a whole host of reasons)?
I'm actually of the thinking I would like to see a European Super League created but on the condition that once they f**k off they can't come back. Yes, it would mean if a club like QPR were to ever get back to the PL we won't be playing the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea but those clubs are no longer what they were in the 80's and 90's so it probably won't make any difference and could make the PL more competitive as it's really just become the English equivalent of the SPL and many other European highest Leagues are the same too which the same clubs just hoovering up everything.
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Agree with a lot of that Juzzie, but would add, that attendances at all levels are holding up, and at non league are probably higher than ever, with the standard getting increasingly higher too. I don't think any other country comes close in terms of attendances outside the top flight.
Massive problems abound, but a lot of that caused by the desperation to get to 'the promised land'. Actually, I think lots of fans feel like me and are not bothered about their club getting to the Prem anymore. It's so far removed from the rest of the football in England, and if you do get up there, you immediately lose your soul anyway (in most cases). |  |
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| Reading on 17:54 - Jun 28 with 4759 views | dmm |
| Reading on 16:46 - Jun 28 by Antti_Heinola |
Agree with a lot of that Juzzie, but would add, that attendances at all levels are holding up, and at non league are probably higher than ever, with the standard getting increasingly higher too. I don't think any other country comes close in terms of attendances outside the top flight.
Massive problems abound, but a lot of that caused by the desperation to get to 'the promised land'. Actually, I think lots of fans feel like me and are not bothered about their club getting to the Prem anymore. It's so far removed from the rest of the football in England, and if you do get up there, you immediately lose your soul anyway (in most cases). |
Antti, I've felt like that ever since we last got relegated in 2015. The only reason I'd celebrate promotion now is because it would/should help the club financially, although you never know with QPR. |  | | |
| Reading on 18:03 - Jun 28 with 4735 views | VancouverHoop |
| Reading on 16:46 - Jun 28 by Antti_Heinola |
Agree with a lot of that Juzzie, but would add, that attendances at all levels are holding up, and at non league are probably higher than ever, with the standard getting increasingly higher too. I don't think any other country comes close in terms of attendances outside the top flight.
Massive problems abound, but a lot of that caused by the desperation to get to 'the promised land'. Actually, I think lots of fans feel like me and are not bothered about their club getting to the Prem anymore. It's so far removed from the rest of the football in England, and if you do get up there, you immediately lose your soul anyway (in most cases). |
This. Totally and absolutely. | | | |
| Reading on 00:01 - Jun 29 with 4506 views | essextaxiboy |
| Reading on 16:46 - Jun 28 by Antti_Heinola |
Agree with a lot of that Juzzie, but would add, that attendances at all levels are holding up, and at non league are probably higher than ever, with the standard getting increasingly higher too. I don't think any other country comes close in terms of attendances outside the top flight.
Massive problems abound, but a lot of that caused by the desperation to get to 'the promised land'. Actually, I think lots of fans feel like me and are not bothered about their club getting to the Prem anymore. It's so far removed from the rest of the football in England, and if you do get up there, you immediately lose your soul anyway (in most cases). |
Promotion would mean that by definition we had just watched a season of winning the majority of matches , scoring goals , sound tactics and all out effort.
That what we want to watch isnt it ?
You cant have one without the other .
The other two alternatives are staying in this division for eternity or relegation , which everyone agreed last season would be a disaster .
There is a lot wrong with the Premier League but there is also a buzz being in it, getting to play and occasionally beat some of the over entitled that are there .
On balance I would swap places with Luton next season . |  | | |
| Reading on 00:14 - Jun 29 with 4493 views | charmr |
A real tale of a football club of what it was and is now.
Reading Ladies section a real force in the development of the game with our own Grace Maloney in goal. Got relegated this year, the big clubs got involved and the whole malaise with the running of the club in general and it’s over. | | | |
| Reading on 08:49 - Jun 29 with 4211 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Reading on 00:01 - Jun 29 by essextaxiboy |
Promotion would mean that by definition we had just watched a season of winning the majority of matches , scoring goals , sound tactics and all out effort.
That what we want to watch isnt it ?
You cant have one without the other .
The other two alternatives are staying in this division for eternity or relegation , which everyone agreed last season would be a disaster .
There is a lot wrong with the Premier League but there is also a buzz being in it, getting to play and occasionally beat some of the over entitled that are there .
On balance I would swap places with Luton next season . |
Not all fans feel the same way of course! For some fans, winning is all that matters, quality of football is secondary; for me i want to be entertained first and foremost and i enjoy watching good, attacking passing football and prefer that to attritional stuff. I believe if you play attractive, attacking football you’ll win games anyway.
But I think you’re misinterpreting me a bit with your post. Obviously I want to see us win and would love another season like 2010/11. That joy outweighs the utter sh1t it resulted in over the years afterwards. I’m not saying i’d turn down promotion: I’m just not bothered by it. I’m not desperate to see us in the Prem, for a lot of reasons that i consider quite valid, and I know loads of fans of loads of clubs are similarly ambivalent. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to see us win a lot of games! I know technically that doesn’t make sense, but I think lots of people feel similarly. I like this division. I know people disparage it all the time, and sneer at it, but at least it’s genuinely competitive and as Luton have proved, anyone can succeed. | |
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| Reading on 09:04 - Jun 29 with 4156 views | Northernr |
| Reading on 16:28 - Jun 28 by kensalriser |
Which month do you think? |
Well I’ve shotgunned February so he can’t have that. |  | | |
| Reading on 10:09 - Jun 29 with 3997 views | robith |
Some Reading supporting mates added me to their Whatsapp group to gloat when Hendricks scored earlier in the season, and I gotta tell you, boy have I enjoyed lurking there ever since |  | | |
| Reading on 10:13 - Jun 29 with 3970 views | QPR_John |
Interestingly Reading Council have got involved supporting the club. Pity Hammersmith and Fulham are not so supportive of us. | | | |
| Reading on 11:32 - Jun 29 with 3808 views | Loyalitat |
| Reading on 10:13 - Jun 29 by QPR_John |
Interestingly Reading Council have got involved supporting the club. Pity Hammersmith and Fulham are not so supportive of us. |
Hammersmith and Fulham is supportive, but quite rightly, they're not going to give land away on the cheap and I'm in full agreement with them. | | | |
| Reading on 13:26 - Jun 29 with 3627 views | TGRRRSSS |
I don't think they have been that supportive which they seem to be off Chelsea and Fulham.
As for Reading they have a ground and decent training ground (new last couple of years.
Will be bought at some point depending on what the owner wants to do I guess....
Maybe lumping on a relegation for them if the odds are attractive enough. |  | | |
| Reading on 12:31 - Jun 30 with 3285 views | loftboy |
Can’t be that skint, in talks to sign Walcott apparently. |  |
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| Reading on 12:54 - Jun 30 with 3191 views | Northernr |
| Reading on 12:31 - Jun 30 by loftboy |
Can’t be that skint, in talks to sign Walcott apparently. |
This is the thing though isn’t it. You could have said that at multiple points of the last five years about Reading. Just constantly making ridiculous, big name, over the hill signings at vast expense, running the engines on full takeoff power 200% wages to turnover, and just working themselves deeper and deeper into the sht. I’m surprised Deeney isn’t already there.
The thing that sums them up and how they’ve got here better than any other is they had their EFL hearing in the morning, got docked 6 points with another 6 suspended and an agreed business plan. In the afternoon they signed Andy Carroll. That’s Reading under this ownership in a nutshell. 12 months on, business plan busted, suspended sentence enacted, and that was the 6 points that relegated them. | | | |
| Reading on 14:28 - Jun 30 with 3008 views | ted_hendrix |
| Reading on 12:54 - Jun 30 by Northernr |
This is the thing though isn’t it. You could have said that at multiple points of the last five years about Reading. Just constantly making ridiculous, big name, over the hill signings at vast expense, running the engines on full takeoff power 200% wages to turnover, and just working themselves deeper and deeper into the sht. I’m surprised Deeney isn’t already there.
The thing that sums them up and how they’ve got here better than any other is they had their EFL hearing in the morning, got docked 6 points with another 6 suspended and an agreed business plan. In the afternoon they signed Andy Carroll. That’s Reading under this ownership in a nutshell. 12 months on, business plan busted, suspended sentence enacted, and that was the 6 points that relegated them. |
Look at It a differant way, people won't like this but like It or not they have a bloody good modern ground with all the facilties already built In, a state of the art training ground (and It Is good) and erm well that's about It.
They are seriously--seriously In deep trouble.
Cilla must be turning In her grave.
Long may the grief continue. |  |
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| Reading on 22:54 - Jun 30 with 2542 views | CamberleyR |
| Reading on 14:28 - Jun 30 by ted_hendrix |
Look at It a differant way, people won't like this but like It or not they have a bloody good modern ground with all the facilties already built In, a state of the art training ground (and It Is good) and erm well that's about It.
They are seriously--seriously In deep trouble.
Cilla must be turning In her grave.
Long may the grief continue. |
They don't own their training ground now though, do they? Wasn't that sold to raise cash?
Didn't they also sell their stadium? |  |
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| Reading on 23:06 - Jun 30 with 2488 views | Blue_Castello |
| Reading on 22:54 - Jun 30 by CamberleyR |
They don't own their training ground now though, do they? Wasn't that sold to raise cash?
Didn't they also sell their stadium? |
Like you I'm pretty sure I read in a recent article that the ground has been sold to the owner in a similar fashion to the way Derby manipulated their finances. | | | |
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