| existentialism 21:44 - May 25 with 2048 views | qprxtc |
Long word for a long sort of thing.
Or is it. Could be longer . Does it exist if no else reads this. No capital E makes it irrelevant, what is relevant. If qprxtc posts are blocked by people does this post exist?
Is now always the better of then? Even if it’s all be said and done. Is nothing worth it or is just on repeat
I repeat.
Maybe it’s all amoebas. |  | | |  |
| existentialism on 22:17 - May 25 with 2009 views | dmm |
Stand back from the Bristol Cream |  | | |
| existentialism on 22:32 - May 25 with 1986 views | colinallcars |
I peeked out of the curtains earlier, the wife said “what's it like out there my love?”
“A marvellous evening for existentialism” I replied. |  | | |
| existentialism on 22:35 - May 25 with 1985 views | johann28 |
I'm afraid what you're debating is nothing to do with Existentialism.
The question you raise is broadly derived from Solipsism, i.e., the idea that only one's mind is sure to exist, and so, epistemologically, it holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.
The existentialists (broadly) thought such thinking was bullshit. [Post edited 25 May 2023 22:35]
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| existentialism on 22:43 - May 25 with 1956 views | colinallcars |
How many existentialists does it take to change a light bulb ?
I can't remember the answer …… | | | |
| existentialism on 22:56 - May 25 with 1939 views | qprxtc |
| existentialism on 22:35 - May 25 by johann28 |
I'm afraid what you're debating is nothing to do with Existentialism.
The question you raise is broadly derived from Solipsism, i.e., the idea that only one's mind is sure to exist, and so, epistemologically, it holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.
The existentialists (broadly) thought such thinking was bullshit. [Post edited 25 May 2023 22:35]
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Ergo, it’s all bollocks Wetherspoons it be sloppy seconds or exit Stan and Liam.
All those great thinkers are dead. As is Rolf.
QPR. Zombiefied. | | | |
| existentialism on 05:49 - May 26 with 1842 views | Metallica_Hoop |
I think waiting for Godot could have had a better ending.
Though alternatively Captain Correllis mandolin could have done a Godot and just ended as the ending was like 'oh shit better finish the book'.
It was rubbish. |  |
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| existentialism on 11:16 - May 26 with 1745 views | hubble |
| existentialism on 22:35 - May 25 by johann28 |
I'm afraid what you're debating is nothing to do with Existentialism.
The question you raise is broadly derived from Solipsism, i.e., the idea that only one's mind is sure to exist, and so, epistemologically, it holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.
The existentialists (broadly) thought such thinking was bullshit. [Post edited 25 May 2023 22:35]
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"The existentialists (broadly) thought such thinking was bullshit."
I'm not sure this is true, that sounds more like a materialist position than an existential one, but please correct me if I am wrong. Existentialists, after all, rejected rationalism and positivism and their belief in free will and a subjective experience could be considered closer to solipsism than a purely materialistic philosophy. Ultimately, whether materialists reject solipsistic philosophy or not, evidence for an external, objective reality still remains conceptual (in that it relies on perception or thought), despite it seemingly being an unarguably obvious fact; or as a solipsist might put it: the existence of an external world is an unresolvable question rather than actually false. |  |
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| existentialism on 11:59 - May 26 with 1698 views | E15Hoop |
| existentialism on 11:16 - May 26 by hubble |
"The existentialists (broadly) thought such thinking was bullshit."
I'm not sure this is true, that sounds more like a materialist position than an existential one, but please correct me if I am wrong. Existentialists, after all, rejected rationalism and positivism and their belief in free will and a subjective experience could be considered closer to solipsism than a purely materialistic philosophy. Ultimately, whether materialists reject solipsistic philosophy or not, evidence for an external, objective reality still remains conceptual (in that it relies on perception or thought), despite it seemingly being an unarguably obvious fact; or as a solipsist might put it: the existence of an external world is an unresolvable question rather than actually false. |
Perhaps if one of them got a smack in the chops for being a boring, overbearing tw*t, that might convince them that an external world actually exists!  |  | | |
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| existentialism on 12:18 - May 26 with 1677 views | johann28 |
| existentialism on 11:16 - May 26 by hubble |
"The existentialists (broadly) thought such thinking was bullshit."
I'm not sure this is true, that sounds more like a materialist position than an existential one, but please correct me if I am wrong. Existentialists, after all, rejected rationalism and positivism and their belief in free will and a subjective experience could be considered closer to solipsism than a purely materialistic philosophy. Ultimately, whether materialists reject solipsistic philosophy or not, evidence for an external, objective reality still remains conceptual (in that it relies on perception or thought), despite it seemingly being an unarguably obvious fact; or as a solipsist might put it: the existence of an external world is an unresolvable question rather than actually false. |
I don't deny at all that the Solipsistic argument has an inner logic to it, my point is purely that most Existentialists (I'm talking Kierkegaard, Sartre, Camus, Beauvoir here) took for granted that external reality was 'real' independently of human thought, and whilst it's true that they did consider this to be ultimately unknowable, they had very little patience with traditional epistemological debates. Their interest was much more to do with our relationship with the world, and especially of course our moral choices. They would definitely have approved of, say, choosing to support Qpr over Chelsea, but wouldn't deny Chelsea's existence. | | | |
| existentialism on 12:36 - May 26 with 1663 views | hubble |
| existentialism on 11:59 - May 26 by E15Hoop |
Perhaps if one of them got a smack in the chops for being a boring, overbearing tw*t, that might convince them that an external world actually exists! |
You sound like a latter-day Dr Johnson, attempting to refute George Berkeley's philosophy of 'subjective idealism' by kicking a stone, and saying "I refute it, thus!"
However, this 'appeal to the stone' (as Johnson's argument is known) is what's known as an 'informal fallacy', which means that it relies on inductive reasoning in an argument to justify an assertion. In other words, it's not actually a refutation, more of a speculation.
I hope that clears things up.
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| existentialism on 13:06 - May 26 with 1650 views | colinallcars |
I think we need a fundamentally more accurate definition of individualism. | | | |
| existentialism on 13:46 - May 26 with 1606 views | Sonofpugwash |
You get a lot of suicides in the existentialist dried fruit sector.
They can't live without a raisin d'etre. |  |
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| existentialism on 13:56 - May 26 with 1592 views | E15Hoop |
| existentialism on 12:36 - May 26 by hubble |
You sound like a latter-day Dr Johnson, attempting to refute George Berkeley's philosophy of 'subjective idealism' by kicking a stone, and saying "I refute it, thus!"
However, this 'appeal to the stone' (as Johnson's argument is known) is what's known as an 'informal fallacy', which means that it relies on inductive reasoning in an argument to justify an assertion. In other words, it's not actually a refutation, more of a speculation.
I hope that clears things up.
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 Nice one, Hubs,
if I ever get caught out in a street fight from now on, I shall tell the arresting officer: "I was merely speculating"! | | | |
| existentialism on 14:08 - May 26 with 1572 views | E15Hoop |
| existentialism on 13:06 - May 26 by colinallcars |
I think we need a fundamentally more accurate definition of individualism. |
But wouldn't it only ever be accurate for one person? | | | |
| existentialism on 15:20 - May 26 with 1542 views | dmm |
| existentialism on 14:08 - May 26 by E15Hoop |
But wouldn't it only ever be accurate for one person? |
Isn't even that too subjective a proposition? | | | |
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