| 130 we need to talk about Mason 15:54 - May 24 with 6329 views | Butty101 |
Poor old Mason, Dropped from the England squad, 3 goals in 35 games for Chelsea this season. Not great a great return for an attacking midfielder.
Then you have JWP in a poor team playing as a defensive midfielder - 10 goals in 44 games.
What a legend
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 19:10 - May 24 with 5126 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
A splendid idea.
Lets rewind Prowses' career by 4 1/2 years to get a decent comparison ie say dec/ January 2019, then we have
JWP
Top Flight games = 180, Top Flight goals = 14
Total games = 220. Total goals = 14
England games = 1, England goals = 0
Mount
Top Flight games = 158 , Top Flight goals = 36
Total games = 281. Total goals = 58
England games = 36, England goals = 5
Looks like a comparison is difficult to make. |  |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 20:10 - May 24 with 5089 views | Messysaints |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 19:10 - May 24 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
A splendid idea.
Lets rewind Prowses' career by 4 1/2 years to get a decent comparison ie say dec/ January 2019, then we have
JWP
Top Flight games = 180, Top Flight goals = 14
Total games = 220. Total goals = 14
England games = 1, England goals = 0
Mount
Top Flight games = 158 , Top Flight goals = 36
Total games = 281. Total goals = 58
England games = 36, England goals = 5
Looks like a comparison is difficult to make. |
Its not Mounts fault he has to line up next to players considered some of the worst in the world eg Kante, JWP plays with the worlds best in Elyounoussi, Theo, AA and co. He should score more than Mount. |  | | |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:25 - May 24 with 5016 views | Butty101 |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 19:10 - May 24 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
A splendid idea.
Lets rewind Prowses' career by 4 1/2 years to get a decent comparison ie say dec/ January 2019, then we have
JWP
Top Flight games = 180, Top Flight goals = 14
Total games = 220. Total goals = 14
England games = 1, England goals = 0
Mount
Top Flight games = 158 , Top Flight goals = 36
Total games = 281. Total goals = 58
England games = 36, England goals = 5
Looks like a comparison is difficult to make. |
What’s that noise I hear …. Oh yeah it’s you trying to move the goal posts!
It’s hard to compare an attacking midfielder to a defensive one. The fact that prowsey has scored 3 times more goals than his felliow Southampton youth team player, is quite remarkable wouldn’t you agree. I wonder if mount is about to drop off a cliff like Ali? | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 06:08 - May 25 with 4926 views | PatfromPoole |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 19:10 - May 24 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
A splendid idea.
Lets rewind Prowses' career by 4 1/2 years to get a decent comparison ie say dec/ January 2019, then we have
JWP
Top Flight games = 180, Top Flight goals = 14
Total games = 220. Total goals = 14
England games = 1, England goals = 0
Mount
Top Flight games = 158 , Top Flight goals = 36
Total games = 281. Total goals = 58
England games = 36, England goals = 5
Looks like a comparison is difficult to make. |
I see that Mount is being linked with a move to United.
Given his very long association with Portsmouth Football Club, they will have a lucrative sell-on clause for him, yes? |  |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 07:25 - May 25 with 4877 views | cocklebreath |
Who gives a f@ck |  |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 11:05 - May 25 with 4788 views | TimSaint |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:25 - May 24 by Butty101 |
What’s that noise I hear …. Oh yeah it’s you trying to move the goal posts!
It’s hard to compare an attacking midfielder to a defensive one. The fact that prowsey has scored 3 times more goals than his felliow Southampton youth team player, is quite remarkable wouldn’t you agree. I wonder if mount is about to drop off a cliff like Ali? |
130 is renowned for moving the goal posts to suit his own agenda.
We are talking about the current season, but he tries to engineer it in his favour, instead of facing the facts that Mount has been poor this season.
He includes 'top flight' instead of the Prem - as Mount had a season on loan at Vitesse Arnham and scored 9 goals, but obviously that has nothing to do with this season.
He also can't count, as he thinks JWP scored only 14 goals in his quoted time period, when he actually scored more than that combined over the last 2 seasons alone. (Perhaps a re-count and an edit is required 130 !!)
He famously thinks Camberley is in Hampshire. |  |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 11:43 - May 25 with 4772 views | Bazza |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 11:05 - May 25 by TimSaint |
130 is renowned for moving the goal posts to suit his own agenda.
We are talking about the current season, but he tries to engineer it in his favour, instead of facing the facts that Mount has been poor this season.
He includes 'top flight' instead of the Prem - as Mount had a season on loan at Vitesse Arnham and scored 9 goals, but obviously that has nothing to do with this season.
He also can't count, as he thinks JWP scored only 14 goals in his quoted time period, when he actually scored more than that combined over the last 2 seasons alone. (Perhaps a re-count and an edit is required 130 !!)
He famously thinks Camberley is in Hampshire. |
Parts of Camberley are in Hampshire, eg Blackwater | | | |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:17 - May 25 with 4658 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 06:08 - May 25 by PatfromPoole |
I see that Mount is being linked with a move to United.
Given his very long association with Portsmouth Football Club, they will have a lucrative sell-on clause for him, yes? |
I think you should be more concerned with your sell ons this summer, and getting as much money in as you can to stop your club falling down immediately to league 1 [Post edited 25 May 2023 22:23]
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:20 - May 25 with 4656 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 20:10 - May 24 by Messysaints |
Its not Mounts fault he has to line up next to players considered some of the worst in the world eg Kante, JWP plays with the worlds best in Elyounoussi, Theo, AA and co. He should score more than Mount. |
Its great that prowse was able to get so many games in, as he was playing in teams with less quality. I wonder how many games he would have got if he was a Chelsea graduate. Would he have been shipped out years back? | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:24 - May 25 with 4646 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 07:25 - May 25 by cocklebreath |
Who gives a f@ck |
You do. Thats why you have responded. | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:34 - May 25 with 4625 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:25 - May 24 by Butty101 |
What’s that noise I hear …. Oh yeah it’s you trying to move the goal posts!
It’s hard to compare an attacking midfielder to a defensive one. The fact that prowsey has scored 3 times more goals than his felliow Southampton youth team player, is quite remarkable wouldn’t you agree. I wonder if mount is about to drop off a cliff like Ali? |
Mount is quite a bit younger, so difficult to compare. Therefore, best to compare like for like ages. Not hard really!!
Prowse had that massive seasons in 18/19 where he scored 7 goals in 26 apps, and hs never been able to match that scoring rate.
Mount had his big season last year, a better rate than Prowse has ever had, been player of the season for 2 years running, and wanted a deserved pay rise. So, he has been chilling till it gets sorted.
Oh, and BTW, Mount doesn't take penalties. I think you may already know this though. | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:41 - May 25 with 4619 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 11:05 - May 25 by TimSaint |
130 is renowned for moving the goal posts to suit his own agenda.
We are talking about the current season, but he tries to engineer it in his favour, instead of facing the facts that Mount has been poor this season.
He includes 'top flight' instead of the Prem - as Mount had a season on loan at Vitesse Arnham and scored 9 goals, but obviously that has nothing to do with this season.
He also can't count, as he thinks JWP scored only 14 goals in his quoted time period, when he actually scored more than that combined over the last 2 seasons alone. (Perhaps a re-count and an edit is required 130 !!)
He famously thinks Camberley is in Hampshire. |
Prowse took 9 seasons to become any good, Mount was good in his first season in the PL.
Oh, how are you counting the half year? I was being generous, so if I was being conservative, I could have stated 13 and 15 goals for prowse that season, ie not 14 and 16 total goals.
Yes, misssed off 2 goals, looks like Prowse need those 2 goals in his early seasons to stop him looking so average. | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:48 - May 25 with 4613 views | PatfromPoole |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:34 - May 25 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Mount is quite a bit younger, so difficult to compare. Therefore, best to compare like for like ages. Not hard really!!
Prowse had that massive seasons in 18/19 where he scored 7 goals in 26 apps, and hs never been able to match that scoring rate.
Mount had his big season last year, a better rate than Prowse has ever had, been player of the season for 2 years running, and wanted a deserved pay rise. So, he has been chilling till it gets sorted.
Oh, and BTW, Mount doesn't take penalties. I think you may already know this though. |
Mount has missed a penalty against Saints, why don’t you know? | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:51 - May 25 with 4610 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:48 - May 25 by PatfromPoole |
Mount has missed a penalty against Saints, why don’t you know? |
so, that isn't plural then? | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:54 - May 25 with 4609 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
It's been a tough season for you guys eh?
At least you can celebrate Prowses' achievements before he leaves for a bigger club in the transfer window. | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 07:44 - May 26 with 4502 views | Messysaints |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:20 - May 25 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Its great that prowse was able to get so many games in, as he was playing in teams with less quality. I wonder how many games he would have got if he was a Chelsea graduate. Would he have been shipped out years back? |
Well, seeing as they play mount even though other players would be better, probs loads, have to have a certain amount of home grown in the team.
Are Chelsea not shipping Mount out? Some pundits are calling him Deli Alli mark 2. | | | |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 10:43 - May 27 with 4286 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 07:44 - May 26 by Messysaints |
Well, seeing as they play mount even though other players would be better, probs loads, have to have a certain amount of home grown in the team.
Are Chelsea not shipping Mount out? Some pundits are calling him Deli Alli mark 2. |
Deli Alli? mmmh
Mount ; Player of the season awards
17 - 18 Vitesse
20-21 : Chelsea
21 -22 ; Chelsea
Ali ; Player of the season awards
NONE
Looks like you are talking out of your bottom | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 16:23 - May 27 with 4201 views | Butty101 |
At Ali’s peak, mason wouldnt of been fit to lace his boots. Masons career seems to be taking a similar downward trajectory.
Alis first four seasons In the premiership yielded 42 goals and 29assists. Mason is not in The same league [Post edited 27 May 2023 20:33]
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 19:05 - May 27 with 4158 views | Messysaints |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 10:43 - May 27 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Deli Alli? mmmh
Mount ; Player of the season awards
17 - 18 Vitesse
20-21 : Chelsea
21 -22 ; Chelsea
Ali ; Player of the season awards
NONE
Looks like you are talking out of your bottom |
as above... | | | |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 15:16 - May 28 with 4037 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 16:23 - May 27 by Butty101 |
At Ali’s peak, mason wouldnt of been fit to lace his boots. Masons career seems to be taking a similar downward trajectory.
Alis first four seasons In the premiership yielded 42 goals and 29assists. Mason is not in The same league [Post edited 27 May 2023 20:33]
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Oh look, Butty is making one hell of a noise moving the goalposts. How hypocritical of him.
but BTW in Alis' best season he had a goal or an assist every 1.48 games - compared to Mounts' 1.52 games. ie very similar.
I'm sure Mount won't be so average when he gets to 27 ie 4 or 5 goals in 3 1/2 years. | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 16:43 - May 28 with 3999 views | Butty101 |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 15:16 - May 28 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Oh look, Butty is making one hell of a noise moving the goalposts. How hypocritical of him.
but BTW in Alis' best season he had a goal or an assist every 1.48 games - compared to Mounts' 1.52 games. ie very similar.
I'm sure Mount won't be so average when he gets to 27 ie 4 or 5 goals in 3 1/2 years. |
Thanks for confirming With your stats that Mason just isn’t as good as Ali in their prime  | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 18:16 - May 28 with 3931 views | Butty101 |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 17:45 - May 28 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Not sure its that simple.
In terms of mins per goal we have :
Ali = 112.5 mins
Mount = 112.5 mins
Now ; Spurs were top scorers that year with 86 .goals, so assuming an assist per goal; Ali gets 6.4% of the goals and assists
And last season, Chelsea were third top scorers with 76 goals, so assuming an assist per goal, Mount gets 7.2% of the goals and assists.
Looks like we have a clear winner, and its not Ali. Oh dear. you changed the goalposts and you still lost. [Post edited 28 May 2023 17:54]
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But as In your previous post it’s all about goals and assists, so it literally is that clear. Mount isn’t fit to lace Ali’s boots | |
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 18:51 - May 28 with 3908 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 18:16 - May 28 by Butty101 |
But as In your previous post it’s all about goals and assists, so it literally is that clear. Mount isn’t fit to lace Ali’s boots |
So, "it’s all about goals and assists", and Mount certainly has a better team goals and assist ratio than your new goalpost subject, even in his best year. Therefore we can say quite condifently that Mount has won this particular duel.
7.2% beats 6.4%
Butty must try harder. [Post edited 28 May 2023 19:07]
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| 130 we need to talk about Mason on 22:21 - May 28 with 3809 views | Butty101 |
This is by far your best response yet. Basically you are saying a player would rather score 11 goals a season than 18 goals . Classic. Do you also think he preferred only scoring 3 this season t  | |
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