| Summer Transfer Rumours 16:26 - May 9 with 428176 views | derbyhoop |
As they seem to have started already, this should be an ongoing thread until August
Seny Dieng - Reims who are mid table in Ligue 1 reportedly interested
Conor Masterson - Gillingham, where he spent the 2nd half of the season; are confident of signing him, but Exeter are also interested |  |
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| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:20 - Jun 5 with 4130 views | Rangersw12 |
Roll roll up fire sale in progress everything must go
Don't get how Hoos and Ferdinand are still employed |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:24 - Jun 5 with 4072 views | ted_hendrix |
Goodbye.
Next. |  |
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| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:26 - Jun 5 with 4051 views | sparkey |
Poor fee, but glad he's going. Mentality strength comparable to a bread stick | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:38 - Jun 5 with 3956 views | dmm |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:02 - Jun 5 by Northernr |
Just 700k up front  |
After the (up to) £1.8m we shelled out for him, that's bleedin' depressing. |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:47 - Jun 5 with 3891 views | derbyhoop |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 09:00 - Jun 5 by Sakura |
I have said in pretty much every post I've made on this thread that the other parts are most likely triggered by appearances and goals in addition to the England cap.
He's played 85 times. Just finished the season as comfortably their top goal scorer. So only the biggest pessimist would think we haven't triggered those or very worst case won't have by the end of this season
It's quite funny to see the mental gymnastics Derby is going through to try and pretend it isn't likely the £4m in add ons will be met if not already
Strange he's being secret about the name of that ex-Wycombe player that went straight into a Prem teams first team and had a career as comparably successful as Eze?!
I can't think of who that would be...
Those suggesting that Eze hasn't had a good enough Palace career to trigger those add ons just doesn't feel credible and I think is evidence of my point that there is a chunk of the fan base who are over the top with their negativity |
My response illustrated that add ons in any contract are not guaranteed payments. For all we know we may have already received som extra money for Eze. E.g. After 50 appearances for Palace. There's a big difference between appearances and starts as my brother pointed out to me.
The chances of QPR getting all £4m and getting it all in the next 12 months seems highly unlikely.
And I won't name the player nor the PL club. It
S not fair on either party. | |
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| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:49 - Jun 5 with 3857 views | Northernr |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:38 - Jun 5 by dmm |
After the (up to) £1.8m we shelled out for him, that's bleedin' depressing. |
Development club.
Is there a conversation to be had about how we're managing contracts? Dickie, like BOS and arguably Manning (Hoos disputes this), would have extended his contract at several points over the past few years, now he's got a year left and he's pissed off so we're forced to flog quickly at a loss after a crap season. |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:58 - Jun 5 with 3769 views | Monkey_Roots |
What a shrewd bit of business.
Well done QPR. |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:04 - Jun 5 with 3689 views | daveB |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:49 - Jun 5 by Northernr |
Development club.
Is there a conversation to be had about how we're managing contracts? Dickie, like BOS and arguably Manning (Hoos disputes this), would have extended his contract at several points over the past few years, now he's got a year left and he's pissed off so we're forced to flog quickly at a loss after a crap season. |
would he have signed a new deal if offered a year ago? I'm not so sure. We sold the club to him as a do well and you'll get a move upwards, when you do that it's unlikely they are going to want to stay more than 4 years which is what it would have been if he saw his current deal out
For all the clubs faults they have been really unlucky that covid and the end of big money deals from the championship died at the point we had the likes of Chair, Dickie, Willock and Dieng all playing well. |  | | |
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| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:11 - Jun 5 with 3631 views | daveB |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:20 - Jun 5 by Rangersw12 |
Roll roll up fire sale in progress everything must go
Don't get how Hoos and Ferdinand are still employed |
Whether they are still here or not this was always going to happen this summer. Ainsworth keeps talking about big changes so plenty are going to leave | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:22 - Jun 5 with 3577 views | Hunterhoop |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:04 - Jun 5 by daveB |
would he have signed a new deal if offered a year ago? I'm not so sure. We sold the club to him as a do well and you'll get a move upwards, when you do that it's unlikely they are going to want to stay more than 4 years which is what it would have been if he saw his current deal out
For all the clubs faults they have been really unlucky that covid and the end of big money deals from the championship died at the point we had the likes of Chair, Dickie, Willock and Dieng all playing well. |
Also the club would have looked like fools if they’d shelled out on a much improved contract offer last summer, which it would have had to be for him to accept after 2 good seasons, only for him to then disintegrate this year into the shell of a centre half he is now.
Everyone would be bemoaning the coin wasted on him and how we’re be lumbered with him for years unless someone bought him.
Yes, it might have meant we could have sold him for more, but perhaps that valuation would have been out of City’s reach and anyone else’s ceiling for him as a player. |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:24 - Jun 5 with 3561 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:04 - Jun 5 by daveB |
would he have signed a new deal if offered a year ago? I'm not so sure. We sold the club to him as a do well and you'll get a move upwards, when you do that it's unlikely they are going to want to stay more than 4 years which is what it would have been if he saw his current deal out
For all the clubs faults they have been really unlucky that covid and the end of big money deals from the championship died at the point we had the likes of Chair, Dickie, Willock and Dieng all playing well. |
Bristol City are still getting decent transfer fees for players because (i) they're good and (ii) they can sell them safe in the knowledge that there's a conveyor belt of talent at the club to replace them with. They are actually showing how a development club should work, just as Brentford did. Meanwhile, we're flogging players to them at a loss and signing their cast-offs to cover our striker for a few weeks as we don't have anyone capable of doing so at the club.
And the people responsible for this are still at the club! Absolute clown show. | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:26 - Jun 5 with 3559 views | Phildo |
Well we watched him all season so could see that any value had been destroyed.
On a separate note I see Charlie Methvin of Sunderland till I die fame has taken over at Charlton. |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:27 - Jun 5 with 3546 views | monners1969 |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:02 - Jun 5 by Northernr |
Just 700k up front |
and so it begins - deep breath needed for the next few months.... no idea how we will compete next season.... |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:28 - Jun 5 with 3530 views | Rangersw12 |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:22 - Jun 5 by Hunterhoop |
Also the club would have looked like fools if they’d shelled out on a much improved contract offer last summer, which it would have had to be for him to accept after 2 good seasons, only for him to then disintegrate this year into the shell of a centre half he is now.
Everyone would be bemoaning the coin wasted on him and how we’re be lumbered with him for years unless someone bought him.
Yes, it might have meant we could have sold him for more, but perhaps that valuation would have been out of City’s reach and anyone else’s ceiling for him as a player. |
We should have tried to sell him when he was in good form but Ferdinand and Hoos didn't as they didn't want to be unpopular ( worked out well)
As usual we did the whole "development club " half arsed and poorly executed and we're now selling any assets for pittance.
Every department at the club seems to be experts in self preservation and not putting the club first . [Post edited 5 Jun 2023 11:30]
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| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:32 - Jun 5 with 3499 views | daveB |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:28 - Jun 5 by Rangersw12 |
We should have tried to sell him when he was in good form but Ferdinand and Hoos didn't as they didn't want to be unpopular ( worked out well)
As usual we did the whole "development club " half arsed and poorly executed and we're now selling any assets for pittance.
Every department at the club seems to be experts in self preservation and not putting the club first . [Post edited 5 Jun 2023 11:30]
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How do you know they didn't try and sell him, you need a buyer to sell someone and his lack of pace meant we were never going to struggle to get big money for him | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:35 - Jun 5 with 3480 views | daveB |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:24 - Jun 5 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Bristol City are still getting decent transfer fees for players because (i) they're good and (ii) they can sell them safe in the knowledge that there's a conveyor belt of talent at the club to replace them with. They are actually showing how a development club should work, just as Brentford did. Meanwhile, we're flogging players to them at a loss and signing their cast-offs to cover our striker for a few weeks as we don't have anyone capable of doing so at the club.
And the people responsible for this are still at the club! Absolute clown show. |
They got good money for Alex Scott, most of the other ones they sold and Brentford were before covid
I'm not suggesting we are doing anything right but the club were a bit unlucky and the big mistake they made was having a go in 2021 which we all thought was a great idea at the time | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:39 - Jun 5 with 3458 views | JamieNaz |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:49 - Jun 5 by Northernr |
Development club.
Is there a conversation to be had about how we're managing contracts? Dickie, like BOS and arguably Manning (Hoos disputes this), would have extended his contract at several points over the past few years, now he's got a year left and he's pissed off so we're forced to flog quickly at a loss after a crap season. |
I guess.
But, then, if everything is on fire, then whatever strategy they did have with contracts is also on fire.
If we do keep signing 15/16 players every three or four years and then do okay for two and then burn everything to the ground in the next two - then I guess everyone will be coming to the end of their contract term and the whole cycle starts again.
At least it'll be a profit on the books because of amortisation or whatever.
I guess because money was so tight we kind of didn't want to extend when the going was good? | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:53 - Jun 5 with 3364 views | terryb |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 10:38 - Jun 5 by dmm |
After the (up to) £1.8m we shelled out for him, that's bleedin' depressing. |
I've no idea if this is the correct fee that we paid for him & I won't try to argue that this is anything like what we expected when we signed him in 2020.
BUT, if this figure is correct, we will have a profit of £250,000 on him for the current accounts period! Plus saving on his wages!
Amortisation would have reduced his asset value to £450,000 for this season, so there's a quarter of a million towards Sakura's £6 million savings! | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 12:10 - Jun 5 with 3220 views | DavieQPR |
With the players released and the loan players going back most of that £6m would have disappeared. Trouble is that leaves nowt for replacements. |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 12:17 - Jun 5 with 3177 views | dmm |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:53 - Jun 5 by terryb |
I've no idea if this is the correct fee that we paid for him & I won't try to argue that this is anything like what we expected when we signed him in 2020.
BUT, if this figure is correct, we will have a profit of £250,000 on him for the current accounts period! Plus saving on his wages!
Amortisation would have reduced his asset value to £450,000 for this season, so there's a quarter of a million towards Sakura's £6 million savings! |
That's a nice positive view Terry but, as has been pointed out many times, the plan was to buy low, develop and sell high. Should this Dickie deal be true, we'll have done the reverse. | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 12:24 - Jun 5 with 3114 views | TK1 |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:32 - Jun 5 by daveB |
How do you know they didn't try and sell him, you need a buyer to sell someone and his lack of pace meant we were never going to struggle to get big money for him |
A (non-QPR specific) journalist told me that he very nearly signed for Watford last summer, but there was a hurdle at the very last minute (from his end). That partly explains him on the bench at the start of the season, his subsequent form, his general air of depression. This is not gospel truth, it is a rumour. But it would make sense. I imagine there are a lot of nearly-moves that happen every window that we know nothing about (thankfully). | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 12:29 - Jun 5 with 3078 views | Rangersw12 |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:32 - Jun 5 by daveB |
How do you know they didn't try and sell him, you need a buyer to sell someone and his lack of pace meant we were never going to struggle to get big money for him |
Ferdinand more or less said in his interview with Clive that the didn't sell anyone as they were " going for it " and if they did the fans would have given them then pelters .
Also Beale only agreed to come to the club if we didn't sell any assets which again shows we haven't a clue what we're doing and now in a position where it's a fire sale
As for a lack of pace I don't see that as a reason why we would couldn't of at least doubled out money on him plus add ons | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 12:37 - Jun 5 with 3036 views | Yorkshirehoop |
Just throwing a name out there but Keane Lewis potter of Brentford would be a good loan signing.just had surgery and needs game time.would make sense for all parties what with the locality.cleary not premier league standard but at this level he ain't shy in front of goal. | | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 12:40 - Jun 5 with 3025 views | qprcmob |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 19:07 - Jun 3 by Dorse |
We'll get £9.50, in real money, a token for a free Chinese burn and 15% off midweek appointments at Dr Phineas O'Grady's Back, Sack 'n' Crack Emporium. |
That sounds like a good deal to me |  | | |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 12:41 - Jun 5 with 3014 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Summer Transfer Rumours on 11:32 - Jun 4 by SimonD |
Absolutely my thinking Jim. Someone who couldn't get into Palace's starting eleven, was not going to get a game for England. |
He was.
Always. |  |
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