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Nowhere near as irritating as Conte and his pathetic whinge after Tottenham’s defeat by villa, that he was short of players and the squad needed strengthening in the transfer window. If he can’t compete at the top with the squad he’s now got, it’s down to him and nobody else.
Passion and a desire to win. Nothing wrong with that imo. Can see he’s learnt a lot from Guardiola.
Passion and desire to win are traits that all managers/coaches have albeit manifested in different ways. However, his conduct on the touchline and towards Eddie Howe was puerile to the extreme. It would have been a scandal if either penalty claim was awarded.
Newcastle did a very good job in containing Arsenal quite comfortably, and sometimes you have to be magnanimous and acknowledge that.
I don't particularly like those Amazon docs, but I did watch the Arsenal one through.
The bad thing about Arteta, the thing that annoyed me about him, was he did these weird LinkedIe-style set piece team talks. Like bringing a lightbulb in, making it shine in the middle of the dressing room, asking them what they knew about Thomas Edison and how he created it, and telling them to all go out there and be more like Thomas Edison. I mean, maybe it's just me, but I always find that sort of stuff just laughably cringe when it's tried in any environment, self help books, motivational posters and speakers, people posting sht on linkedin. I just sit there and laugh. How on earth it's meant to have an impact on 22 millionaires in their teens and early 20s I don't know, wouldn't you just sit there and think "the fck is this guy on about"?
The positive, which I think speaks to what winds the OP up actually, is he's obviously a complete football obsessive. He is obsessed with that job and making Arsenal better and improving that team and those players. I think when you're like that, and you're in control, and people do what you say, and you like that control and that power, it's very difficult to stand on a touchline where everything is out of your control and you're now at the mercy of Andy Madley refereeing as he did last night, without losing the plot a little bit.
It's worth a watch, give it a go and see if it changes your opinion or reinforces it.
Nowhere near as irritating as Conte and his pathetic whinge after Tottenham’s defeat by villa, that he was short of players and the squad needed strengthening in the transfer window. If he can’t compete at the top with the squad he’s now got, it’s down to him and nobody else.
Conte sprinting down the entire side everytime Chelsea scored used to annoy me . Then sure enough he did the same thing at Spurs until he realized they are not qualifying for Europe then demands more money what a tool. Arteta has the making of a brilliant coach but his behaviour yesterday was pretty pathetic .Eddie Howe came off looking calm and collected until he had enough of the b.s. Newcastle did act the wan*ers a lot though doing their best PNE and throwin a lot of dirty tackles in so I can see why Arteta was angry . Just like Haaland in the second time around getting the crap kicked out of him , Arsenal are going to be stopped come hell or high water IMO
I don't particularly like those Amazon docs, but I did watch the Arsenal one through.
The bad thing about Arteta, the thing that annoyed me about him, was he did these weird LinkedIe-style set piece team talks. Like bringing a lightbulb in, making it shine in the middle of the dressing room, asking them what they knew about Thomas Edison and how he created it, and telling them to all go out there and be more like Thomas Edison. I mean, maybe it's just me, but I always find that sort of stuff just laughably cringe when it's tried in any environment, self help books, motivational posters and speakers, people posting sht on linkedin. I just sit there and laugh. How on earth it's meant to have an impact on 22 millionaires in their teens and early 20s I don't know, wouldn't you just sit there and think "the fck is this guy on about"?
The positive, which I think speaks to what winds the OP up actually, is he's obviously a complete football obsessive. He is obsessed with that job and making Arsenal better and improving that team and those players. I think when you're like that, and you're in control, and people do what you say, and you like that control and that power, it's very difficult to stand on a touchline where everything is out of your control and you're now at the mercy of Andy Madley refereeing as he did last night, without losing the plot a little bit.
It's worth a watch, give it a go and see if it changes your opinion or reinforces it.
I don't particularly like those Amazon docs, but I did watch the Arsenal one through.
The bad thing about Arteta, the thing that annoyed me about him, was he did these weird LinkedIe-style set piece team talks. Like bringing a lightbulb in, making it shine in the middle of the dressing room, asking them what they knew about Thomas Edison and how he created it, and telling them to all go out there and be more like Thomas Edison. I mean, maybe it's just me, but I always find that sort of stuff just laughably cringe when it's tried in any environment, self help books, motivational posters and speakers, people posting sht on linkedin. I just sit there and laugh. How on earth it's meant to have an impact on 22 millionaires in their teens and early 20s I don't know, wouldn't you just sit there and think "the fck is this guy on about"?
The positive, which I think speaks to what winds the OP up actually, is he's obviously a complete football obsessive. He is obsessed with that job and making Arsenal better and improving that team and those players. I think when you're like that, and you're in control, and people do what you say, and you like that control and that power, it's very difficult to stand on a touchline where everything is out of your control and you're now at the mercy of Andy Madley refereeing as he did last night, without losing the plot a little bit.
It's worth a watch, give it a go and see if it changes your opinion or reinforces it.
Wow, I need to watch this. I remember that Liverpool documentary a while back when Rodgers was getting loads of stick for his Brentisms. It's such an odd comparison - Thomas Edison was an inventor and they're professional footballers. Maybe Grant Xhaka will end up inventing a new kind of football boot like Craig Johnston did.
I don't particularly like those Amazon docs, but I did watch the Arsenal one through.
The bad thing about Arteta, the thing that annoyed me about him, was he did these weird LinkedIe-style set piece team talks. Like bringing a lightbulb in, making it shine in the middle of the dressing room, asking them what they knew about Thomas Edison and how he created it, and telling them to all go out there and be more like Thomas Edison. I mean, maybe it's just me, but I always find that sort of stuff just laughably cringe when it's tried in any environment, self help books, motivational posters and speakers, people posting sht on linkedin. I just sit there and laugh. How on earth it's meant to have an impact on 22 millionaires in their teens and early 20s I don't know, wouldn't you just sit there and think "the fck is this guy on about"?
The positive, which I think speaks to what winds the OP up actually, is he's obviously a complete football obsessive. He is obsessed with that job and making Arsenal better and improving that team and those players. I think when you're like that, and you're in control, and people do what you say, and you like that control and that power, it's very difficult to stand on a touchline where everything is out of your control and you're now at the mercy of Andy Madley refereeing as he did last night, without losing the plot a little bit.
It's worth a watch, give it a go and see if it changes your opinion or reinforces it.
On the power and influence thing - Roy Keane admitted the reason he gave up being a manager was that his job and the perception of him relied on how the players performed, therefore, out of his control and he couldn't cope with that.
I don't particularly like those Amazon docs, but I did watch the Arsenal one through.
The bad thing about Arteta, the thing that annoyed me about him, was he did these weird LinkedIe-style set piece team talks. Like bringing a lightbulb in, making it shine in the middle of the dressing room, asking them what they knew about Thomas Edison and how he created it, and telling them to all go out there and be more like Thomas Edison. I mean, maybe it's just me, but I always find that sort of stuff just laughably cringe when it's tried in any environment, self help books, motivational posters and speakers, people posting sht on linkedin. I just sit there and laugh. How on earth it's meant to have an impact on 22 millionaires in their teens and early 20s I don't know, wouldn't you just sit there and think "the fck is this guy on about"?
The positive, which I think speaks to what winds the OP up actually, is he's obviously a complete football obsessive. He is obsessed with that job and making Arsenal better and improving that team and those players. I think when you're like that, and you're in control, and people do what you say, and you like that control and that power, it's very difficult to stand on a touchline where everything is out of your control and you're now at the mercy of Andy Madley refereeing as he did last night, without losing the plot a little bit.
It's worth a watch, give it a go and see if it changes your opinion or reinforces it.
When Mark Hughes joined us there was a picture of him in front of his bookshelf and all the books were those kind of w@nkfest sporting motivational types. I just thought there and then "Oh my fking god". As well as being cringeworthy, exactly as you say.... a bunch of highly paid teens/young adults are just not going to give a schit if anyone espouses that kind of stuff to them. They'll just sit there and think he's a cnt, and he was.
There's nobody better than Mikel Arteta. I still think Arsenal will have an end of season shit out.
Probably right. They don’t have the squad depth to compete over the course of a season with the likes of City, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. Only had to look at their attacking options on the bench last night to see the problem they’ll face over the next few months.
That’s why I can’t blame Arteta for trying to squeeze every advantage he can get as the odds are stacked against them winning the league.
Wow, I need to watch this. I remember that Liverpool documentary a while back when Rodgers was getting loads of stick for his Brentisms. It's such an odd comparison - Thomas Edison was an inventor and they're professional footballers. Maybe Grant Xhaka will end up inventing a new kind of football boot like Craig Johnston did.
I don't particularly like those Amazon docs, but I did watch the Arsenal one through.
The bad thing about Arteta, the thing that annoyed me about him, was he did these weird LinkedIe-style set piece team talks. Like bringing a lightbulb in, making it shine in the middle of the dressing room, asking them what they knew about Thomas Edison and how he created it, and telling them to all go out there and be more like Thomas Edison. I mean, maybe it's just me, but I always find that sort of stuff just laughably cringe when it's tried in any environment, self help books, motivational posters and speakers, people posting sht on linkedin. I just sit there and laugh. How on earth it's meant to have an impact on 22 millionaires in their teens and early 20s I don't know, wouldn't you just sit there and think "the fck is this guy on about"?
The positive, which I think speaks to what winds the OP up actually, is he's obviously a complete football obsessive. He is obsessed with that job and making Arsenal better and improving that team and those players. I think when you're like that, and you're in control, and people do what you say, and you like that control and that power, it's very difficult to stand on a touchline where everything is out of your control and you're now at the mercy of Andy Madley refereeing as he did last night, without losing the plot a little bit.
It's worth a watch, give it a go and see if it changes your opinion or reinforces it.
That's how I feel too.
But it's interesting. I read something about sports people and religion. It's pretty much been proven that if a sports person truly believes it's God's will for them to succeed then it can push them to new heights. Jonathan Edwards was like that. He truly, truly believed. Then retired and thought, 'actually, that was a load of old bollocks'. But during his career that belief absolutely helped him - whether 'God' is real or not is irrelevant, it's about individual belief.
I think it's the same or similar with self help stuff. You or I just cringes at it and thinks it's nonsense. But if you can espouse it and get people to buy into it - and fine, they're all 20 something and rich but the RIGHT ones salivate for success and glory; that's what's got them where they are anyway - *then* you can see rewards. All the best bosses have that ability to get total buy in from their players, in different ways: Revie, Clough, Fergie, Wenger, Pep, Klopp. And if they don't get total buy in: they ship them out. Arteta has had to be ruthless there. A year ago Piers Morgan was being Piers Morgan mocking Arteta for getting rid of Aubameyang. Now look. You're either with him, or you can fk off.
But it's interesting. I read something about sports people and religion. It's pretty much been proven that if a sports person truly believes it's God's will for them to succeed then it can push them to new heights. Jonathan Edwards was like that. He truly, truly believed. Then retired and thought, 'actually, that was a load of old bollocks'. But during his career that belief absolutely helped him - whether 'God' is real or not is irrelevant, it's about individual belief.
I think it's the same or similar with self help stuff. You or I just cringes at it and thinks it's nonsense. But if you can espouse it and get people to buy into it - and fine, they're all 20 something and rich but the RIGHT ones salivate for success and glory; that's what's got them where they are anyway - *then* you can see rewards. All the best bosses have that ability to get total buy in from their players, in different ways: Revie, Clough, Fergie, Wenger, Pep, Klopp. And if they don't get total buy in: they ship them out. Arteta has had to be ruthless there. A year ago Piers Morgan was being Piers Morgan mocking Arteta for getting rid of Aubameyang. Now look. You're either with him, or you can fk off.
problem is clubs can change Manager's every 18 months so players won't know if they're meant to be (2nd) coming, going or sh*tting light bulbs.
I've done far, far too many sports psychology courses for my own good or sanity, and always found it a delicate and individual oddity.
Done well, it can certainly help an athlete or a team, but so much of it is nonsense, laughable and reminds me of a trainee priest chancing an over-ambitious sermon. "..and d'you know, I've often thought, life is like.."
Far more important than sports psychology is human treatment. Treat the athletes well, make them feel wanted, respected and part of something special and you have a chance. Fail to do that, and the lightbulb won't fool anyone.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
I've done far, far too many sports psychology courses for my own good or sanity, and always found it a delicate and individual oddity.
Done well, it can certainly help an athlete or a team, but so much of it is nonsense, laughable and reminds me of a trainee priest chancing an over-ambitious sermon. "..and d'you know, I've often thought, life is like.."
Far more important than sports psychology is human treatment. Treat the athletes well, make them feel wanted, respected and part of something special and you have a chance. Fail to do that, and the lightbulb won't fool anyone.
Well he's doing something right atm cos they're top.
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