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Russian thread 15:35 - Oct 2 with 19269 viewsSirjohnalot

Hi all

I’ve taken the decision to ban Controversial Jack and deleted the thread.

This was my decision, I tried to keep the debate up for as long as possible but it got increasingly bizarre and for the good of the site, I removed it.

My decision, any criticism is on me not Keith.
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Russian thread on 17:07 - Nov 7 with 1281 viewsCatullus

Russian thread on 16:57 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

i'm giving facts as i see them. Not trolling at all. If you disagree, counter them or ignore me. No need for slurs. We are all adults, not schoolkids.


Oh behave, you chose the username and you live down to it. You don't believe what you post, you just post to get a reaction.

Facts as you see them, one of those facts being that stories from the media from several different sources and countries are "obvious propaganda" according to you.

Pull the other one Contro.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Russian thread on 18:03 - Nov 7 with 1249 viewsWingstandwood

Russian thread on 17:07 - Nov 7 by Catullus

Oh behave, you chose the username and you live down to it. You don't believe what you post, you just post to get a reaction.

Facts as you see them, one of those facts being that stories from the media from several different sources and countries are "obvious propaganda" according to you.

Pull the other one Contro.


Indeed he is contrarian and controversial despite overwhelming evidence that disproves the trolling-esque aspect of it all.

In fact, on one previous occasion on here he even disagreed with the 'professional' opinion of my dentist..... another who is one of the U.K's leading dental implantologists and a dentistry tutor at Cardiff University..... and he has also disagreed with dentistry journals, medical evidence and proof that has been recognised by dentists worldwide.

Indeed! "Controversial" to disagree with thousands of dentists, implantologists and maxillofacial surgeons worldwide ?

Argus!

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Russian thread on 18:12 - Nov 7 with 1238 viewsonehunglow

Russian thread on 18:03 - Nov 7 by Wingstandwood

Indeed he is contrarian and controversial despite overwhelming evidence that disproves the trolling-esque aspect of it all.

In fact, on one previous occasion on here he even disagreed with the 'professional' opinion of my dentist..... another who is one of the U.K's leading dental implantologists and a dentistry tutor at Cardiff University..... and he has also disagreed with dentistry journals, medical evidence and proof that has been recognised by dentists worldwide.

Indeed! "Controversial" to disagree with thousands of dentists, implantologists and maxillofacial surgeons worldwide ?


He disagreed with me and I’m a site luminary

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Russian thread on 18:21 - Nov 7 with 1228 viewsshingle

Russian thread on 15:08 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

You do realise that's from the Daily Mail?


We also realise many posts on here are from you now a poll between you and the mail as to which one spouts the most junk would be a nailbiter.
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Russian thread on 18:23 - Nov 7 with 1223 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 18:21 - Nov 7 by shingle

We also realise many posts on here are from you now a poll between you and the mail as to which one spouts the most junk would be a nailbiter.


Wait and see then!
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Russian thread on 18:39 - Nov 7 with 1211 viewsshingle

Russian thread on 18:23 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

Wait and see then!


Well no need to wait and see as far as you are concerned as your a lost cause, however i will give the Mail a few months to redeem themselves.
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Russian thread on 18:52 - Nov 7 with 1202 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 18:23 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

Wait and see then!


this could be either interesting or funny , I wager the latter . Lucky you didn’t call yourself Credibilityjack that would have been false advertising as well

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Russian thread on 02:14 - Nov 8 with 1155 viewsDJack

Russian thread on 16:57 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

i'm giving facts as i see them. Not trolling at all. If you disagree, counter them or ignore me. No need for slurs. We are all adults, not schoolkids.


No. you keep posting arrant nonsense.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Russian thread on 11:09 - Nov 8 with 1107 viewscontroversial_jack

This is what it's all about. How very convenient for the US. Sanction the Russians so they can sell us and Europe expensive LNG. I have to admit, the Yanks have played a blinder here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11401151/Rishi-Sunak-close-sealing-gas-
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Russian thread on 11:24 - Nov 8 with 1104 viewsScotia

Russian thread on 11:09 - Nov 8 by controversial_jack

This is what it's all about. How very convenient for the US. Sanction the Russians so they can sell us and Europe expensive LNG. I have to admit, the Yanks have played a blinder here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11401151/Rishi-Sunak-close-sealing-gas-


So are Putin and the Yanks on tha same side?
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Russian thread on 11:39 - Nov 8 with 1096 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 11:24 - Nov 8 by Scotia

So are Putin and the Yanks on tha same side?


They manufactured a coup in 2014, supported the NAZIS in the Donbass, knowing it would provoke a Russian intervention so we would sanction Russian gas so they can sell more to us and Europe.

This will make Europe more dependent on expensive LNG, instead of cheap Russian gas. It will make European industry less competitive so they can move into European markets. It also makes our reluctance to move away from fossil fuels make more sense.They will probably give us a bit of a discount for blowing up Nord 2 as well

They don't care about the Ukraine or how many deaths occur as long as they can make their money. It's quite a brilliant strategy really, but it's why I believe the US is the worlds biggest threat
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Russian thread on 11:57 - Nov 8 with 1093 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 11:39 - Nov 8 by controversial_jack

They manufactured a coup in 2014, supported the NAZIS in the Donbass, knowing it would provoke a Russian intervention so we would sanction Russian gas so they can sell more to us and Europe.

This will make Europe more dependent on expensive LNG, instead of cheap Russian gas. It will make European industry less competitive so they can move into European markets. It also makes our reluctance to move away from fossil fuels make more sense.They will probably give us a bit of a discount for blowing up Nord 2 as well

They don't care about the Ukraine or how many deaths occur as long as they can make their money. It's quite a brilliant strategy really, but it's why I believe the US is the worlds biggest threat


And so more bull s+++ is allowed then , won't be long

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Russian thread on 12:02 - Nov 8 with 1087 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 11:57 - Nov 8 by Boundy

And so more bull s+++ is allowed then , won't be long


Counter those points then, if you can?
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Russian thread on 13:05 - Nov 8 with 1070 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 12:02 - Nov 8 by controversial_jack

Counter those points then, if you can?


You prove them each and everyone , I'm in for a long wait but I'm not busy so crack on

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Russian thread on 13:22 - Nov 8 with 1060 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 13:05 - Nov 8 by Boundy

You prove them each and everyone , I'm in for a long wait but I'm not busy so crack on


A strategist you aren't
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Russian thread on 14:02 - Nov 8 with 1043 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 13:22 - Nov 8 by controversial_jack

A strategist you aren't


Maybe not. but I'm not a fantasist either . I'll ask again where's your proof ?

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Russian thread on 15:44 - Nov 8 with 1029 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 14:02 - Nov 8 by Boundy

Maybe not. but I'm not a fantasist either . I'll ask again where's your proof ?


The proof is all out there documented. The 2014, was Engineered by the US - we all know that.

We have sanctions on Russian gas, and the US is going to profit by selling more to us

NATO has supported the neo nazis in the Donbass and has even trained many of them

Nord 2 was conveniently blown up a few weeks before these deals with the Us were made. It wouldn't make sense for Russia spite themselves - what have they got out of it?

If you expect admissions by the relative govts concerned then youyare very naive to expect it.

I can't make it any clearer
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Russian thread on 16:20 - Nov 8 with 1024 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 15:44 - Nov 8 by controversial_jack

The proof is all out there documented. The 2014, was Engineered by the US - we all know that.

We have sanctions on Russian gas, and the US is going to profit by selling more to us

NATO has supported the neo nazis in the Donbass and has even trained many of them

Nord 2 was conveniently blown up a few weeks before these deals with the Us were made. It wouldn't make sense for Russia spite themselves - what have they got out of it?

If you expect admissions by the relative govts concerned then youyare very naive to expect it.

I can't make it any clearer
[Post edited 8 Nov 2022 15:47]


The proof is all out there documented. The 2014, was Engineered by the US - we all know that. Link please

We have sanctions on Russian gas, and the US is going to profit by selling more to us ,
We produce over 50% of our own gas and Russia supplied just 3% so master strategist that you are, can explain why would UK special forces blow up a gas pipe line which has no impact on our supplies

NATO has supported the neo nazis in the Donbass and has even trained many of them Yours and Putin's opinion , proof please

Nord 2 was conveniently blown up a few weeks before these deals with the Us were made. It wouldn't make sense for Russia spite themselves - what have they got out of it? I Proof that the SBS carried out the attack which is what you alleged

If you expect admissions by the relative govts concerned then youyare very naive to expect it.
But I'm expected to believe a random slightly deranged poster who has a on a football forum of hiding behind sofas FFS you're duller than I thought

I can't make it any clearer , all of the above suits your narrative , now I'll ask once more where your proof that any of the above actually happened .

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Russian thread on 16:26 - Nov 8 with 1021 viewsBoundy

The exhumation work at the mass burial site in the Izyum Forest has been completed.
Out of 447 bodies, 30 had marks of severe torture.
Several men had been castrated.
- 215 women
- 194 men
- 5 children
- 22 Ukrainian soldiers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63536564

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Russian thread on 19:44 - Nov 8 with 999 viewsCatullus

Russian thread on 16:26 - Nov 8 by Boundy

The exhumation work at the mass burial site in the Izyum Forest has been completed.
Out of 447 bodies, 30 had marks of severe torture.
Several men had been castrated.
- 215 women
- 194 men
- 5 children
- 22 Ukrainian soldiers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63536564


Yes but t's the BBC mun, Contro will obviously say it's propaganda. Only Russian news can be trusted to tell the truth, even Al jazeera are in on the plot against the innocent and lovely Vlad Putin.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Russian thread on 12:58 - Nov 9 with 971 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 11:39 - Nov 8 by controversial_jack

They manufactured a coup in 2014, supported the NAZIS in the Donbass, knowing it would provoke a Russian intervention so we would sanction Russian gas so they can sell more to us and Europe.

This will make Europe more dependent on expensive LNG, instead of cheap Russian gas. It will make European industry less competitive so they can move into European markets. It also makes our reluctance to move away from fossil fuels make more sense.They will probably give us a bit of a discount for blowing up Nord 2 as well

They don't care about the Ukraine or how many deaths occur as long as they can make their money. It's quite a brilliant strategy really, but it's why I believe the US is the worlds biggest threat


As Diana Ross once sang so beautifully , I'm Still Waiting , either put up or shut up Troll

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Russian thread on 15:43 - Nov 9 with 958 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The Russian general in charge of Kherson has announced that Russia will withdraw all its troops as it can't defend what is left of the city they have destroyed.

No doubt the retreat will be in utter panic with most of their supplied left behind.

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Russian thread on 16:07 - Nov 9 with 951 viewsWingstandwood

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11408421/Russia-orders-troops-withdraw-

Quote headline: "Humiliation for Putin as Russia orders troops to withdraw from occupied Kherson in wake of Ukrainian advance".
More bad news from that darn rascal of a newspaper i.e. The Daily Mail!

Argus!

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Russian thread on 16:10 - Nov 9 with 948 viewsWingstandwood

That other lot at the BBC hey! Propaganda hey?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

"Russia's commander in Ukraine, Gen Sergei Surovikin, said it was no longer possible to keep supplying the city." Going well this invasion hey?
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Argus!

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Russian thread on 16:39 - Nov 9 with 934 viewsBoundy

oops now how did that happen .
Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu on Wednesday ordered Moscow's troops to withdraw from the city of Kherson in southern Ukraine, which Ukrainian forces have been advancing on for weeks.

"Begin to pull out troops," Shoigu told a televised meeting with Russia's commander in Ukraine, Sergey Surovikin

The commander had proposed the "difficult decision" of pulling back from Kherson and setting up defences on the left bank of the Dnipro River.

Kherson city was the first urban hub captured by Russia during its "special military operation" and the only regional capital controlled by the Russians since the offensive began on February 24.

Ukraine's forces have for weeks been capturing villages en route to the city near the Black Sea and Kremlin-installed leaders in Kherson have been pulling out civilians
A Ukrainian victory in the Black Sea region would cut off the land bridge that the Kremlin established from Russia to the Crimea, the peninsula which Moscow annexed in 2014.

It would also return Ukraine important access to the Sea of Azov and leave Russian President Vladimir Putin with little to show from a campaign that has turned him into a pariah in the eyes of the West.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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