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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea 09:23 - Mar 10 with 50574 viewsDWQPR

Just been sanctioned by the UK government. Now I assume that any follower of the filth buying tickets or anything associated with that lot will be breaking the law?

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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 01:10 - Mar 12 with 2693 viewsDannyPaddox

Breaking: Players past and present plus celebrity fans have banded together to make a charity record under the banner Send Chelsea Ur Money (SCUM). All proceeds from sales of the record will go towards helping players travel to and from away games.



Like A Stamford Bridge Over Roubled Waters / Where’s Your Shed At? will be on sale tomorrow morning exclusively from the Chelsea club shop.

Ah it’s closed.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 06:57 - Mar 12 with 2461 viewsdenhamhoop2

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 23:53 - Mar 11 by Damo1962

Britain was the first nation to abolish slavery - which is always over-looked. Someone had to do it...and I'm proud it was us. We also stopped other nations from continuing the file practice.


Sadly Slavery is still alive and well today just not legalised but quite often turned a blind eye to
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 07:39 - Mar 12 with 2363 viewsRed_Ranger

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 17:39 - Mar 11 by eastside_r

I cannot recommend this article enough.

I think there is only one journalist I prefer reading than Marina. You can probably guess who that is.


Don’t forget Simon Kuper.
Utterly brilliant all round.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 07:41 - Mar 12 with 2357 viewsRed_Ranger

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 19:16 - Mar 11 by Harbour

Send in the Liquidator now I mean it’s there club anthem …


Lol
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:00 - Mar 12 with 2305 viewsdmm

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 06:57 - Mar 12 by denhamhoop2

Sadly Slavery is still alive and well today just not legalised but quite often turned a blind eye to


Yes, exactly.

And a few other things about Britain 'abolishing' slavery. A large factor in that happening was down to the slaves' own resistance movement. It wasn't just Britain suddenly getting a new conscience.

Following the 1833 slavery act, the Govt had to pay off the rich slave owners. The taxpayer paid the price to enable the bill to come into force. It wasn't until 2015 that the Govt finished paying off the debt this incurred. The slaves themselves have never received anything, only the wealthy slave owners.

Britain did not end its own slavery in 1833 as it continued through the East India Company and Ceylon, and of course, through Britain's colonisation of countries around the world.

Different forms of Britain's slavery continue to this day, eg Debt, Tax and Finance.

Sadly, Britain has little to be proud of when it comes to slavery.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:23 - Mar 12 with 2248 viewskropotkin41

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 15:23 - Mar 11 by denhamhoop2

I would have a quick look at the Egyptian Greek and Roman Empires and realise a form of capitalism based on the some form of subjugation has been around for a bit longer than 300 years. Most of Arabic Trading routes included/s Slave Trading just the time it took travelling that stopped most of the those involved from spreading it worldwide.
Fairly certain similiar practices saw Homo Sapien treat Neanderthal pretty shabbily who also had done the same to Cro Magnon man. It's nature sadly


"It's nature sadly." Nope. That's the last line of every broken argument ever deployed by reactionaries the world over.

No better place to start addressing this kind of nonsense than The Dawn of Everything by Wengrow and Graeber. I double dare you to read it.

‘morbid curiosity about where this is all going’

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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:26 - Mar 12 with 2237 viewsBrianMcCarthy

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:23 - Mar 12 by kropotkin41

"It's nature sadly." Nope. That's the last line of every broken argument ever deployed by reactionaries the world over.

No better place to start addressing this kind of nonsense than The Dawn of Everything by Wengrow and Graeber. I double dare you to read it.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dawn-Everything-New-History-Humanity/dp/B098KP6T67/ref=

This?

Any chance of a quick synopsis?

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:40 - Mar 12 with 2199 viewsPunteR

How the fk have we got onto British slavery on this thread?

Occasional providers of half decent House music.

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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:47 - Mar 12 with 2174 viewsdmm

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:26 - Mar 12 by BrianMcCarthy

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dawn-Everything-New-History-Humanity/dp/B098KP6T67/ref=

This?

Any chance of a quick synopsis?


I'm reading it at the moment. It's almost impossible to summarise because of its broad analysis of ancient history. Suffice to say it seriously challenges many assumptions about how humans have ordered their lives in the past and consequently what we assume is the norm for society today.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:52 - Mar 12 with 2151 viewstoboboly

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:40 - Mar 12 by PunteR

How the fk have we got onto British slavery on this thread?


Because even the "sensible" people on this website have such entrenched views that everyone must hear them, and everyone else is wrong.

Both sides. Utter bollocks too.

Sexy Asian dwarves wanted.

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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:53 - Mar 12 with 2143 viewsBrianMcCarthy

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:47 - Mar 12 by dmm

I'm reading it at the moment. It's almost impossible to summarise because of its broad analysis of ancient history. Suffice to say it seriously challenges many assumptions about how humans have ordered their lives in the past and consequently what we assume is the norm for society today.


Ok, thanks. Looks interesting.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:54 - Mar 12 with 2128 viewsBrianMcCarthy

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:52 - Mar 12 by toboboly

Because even the "sensible" people on this website have such entrenched views that everyone must hear them, and everyone else is wrong.

Both sides. Utter bollocks too.


I should have stayed away from it (not saying that I'm one of the "sensible" people! ).

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:59 - Mar 12 with 2111 viewsHAYESBOY


Smells like a trout farm in here

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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 09:07 - Mar 12 with 2086 viewsLadbrokeR

Back to the title of this thread. I was listening to talk radio yesterday morning and a bloke rings up in relation to the Ambrovitch situation and seriously suugests that the team could just take the knee in support of ukraine and sanctions could be withdrawn. That broad minded humanitarian nick ferrari couldn’t believe it.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 09:21 - Mar 12 with 2032 viewsstowmarketrange

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:59 - Mar 12 by HAYESBOY



That sums it up pretty well.It’s not about democracy,but pure greed.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 10:28 - Mar 12 with 1881 viewsjohnhoop

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:00 - Mar 12 by dmm

Yes, exactly.

And a few other things about Britain 'abolishing' slavery. A large factor in that happening was down to the slaves' own resistance movement. It wasn't just Britain suddenly getting a new conscience.

Following the 1833 slavery act, the Govt had to pay off the rich slave owners. The taxpayer paid the price to enable the bill to come into force. It wasn't until 2015 that the Govt finished paying off the debt this incurred. The slaves themselves have never received anything, only the wealthy slave owners.

Britain did not end its own slavery in 1833 as it continued through the East India Company and Ceylon, and of course, through Britain's colonisation of countries around the world.

Different forms of Britain's slavery continue to this day, eg Debt, Tax and Finance.

Sadly, Britain has little to be proud of when it comes to slavery.


I must be imagining the fact then, that after the Abolition of Slavery Act in 1807, the dastardly British Government created the West Africa Squadron specifically to patrol the coast of West Africa to stop slave ships.
At its height the Squadron was using one sixth of the Royal Navy fleet and between 1808 to 1860 it captured 1600 slave transports and freed 150,000 Africans with 1500 British sailors losing their lives in the process.
But of course, God forbid that we should ever claim that this country has done anything worthy of praise.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 11:02 - Mar 12 with 1806 viewsthemodfather

those players will not stay the moment their pay is frozen, in doubt or late, they will mumble about loyalty and the fans but first chance will sod off to kiss a new badge and other loyal fans. few come thru the ranks and most don't care for any club, just the money . i will always question the fit and proper chairman thing cos questions have been raised on many in the past, man city had one on human rights atrocities, shinatwa? flavio accused of winning a race by asking a driver to crash into a wall at 150mph?? Roman walked in amidst dodgy dealing rumours....still the hope of Woking v chelsea as a big derby next season really entices lol
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 11:14 - Mar 12 with 1767 viewsizlingtonhoop

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 15:23 - Mar 11 by denhamhoop2

I would have a quick look at the Egyptian Greek and Roman Empires and realise a form of capitalism based on the some form of subjugation has been around for a bit longer than 300 years. Most of Arabic Trading routes included/s Slave Trading just the time it took travelling that stopped most of the those involved from spreading it worldwide.
Fairly certain similiar practices saw Homo Sapien treat Neanderthal pretty shabbily who also had done the same to Cro Magnon man. It's nature sadly


I know that. So I don't need to have a quick look.

The question was, how did a tiny island become so powerful?

My answer was, slavery.
[Post edited 12 Mar 2022 11:17]
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 11:22 - Mar 12 with 1744 viewsizlingtonhoop

Britain abolished legal slavery and compensated the owners with gazillions (in today's money)...

Compensated?!
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 11:23 - Mar 12 with 1733 viewsdmm

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 10:28 - Mar 12 by johnhoop

I must be imagining the fact then, that after the Abolition of Slavery Act in 1807, the dastardly British Government created the West Africa Squadron specifically to patrol the coast of West Africa to stop slave ships.
At its height the Squadron was using one sixth of the Royal Navy fleet and between 1808 to 1860 it captured 1600 slave transports and freed 150,000 Africans with 1500 British sailors losing their lives in the process.
But of course, God forbid that we should ever claim that this country has done anything worthy of praise.


The abolition of slavery act was in 1833. You are referring to the abolition of the slave trade act in 1807. You can take the view that the anti-slavery patrols are worthy of praise but, given for hundreds of years over 11 million Africans were forcibly transported to the Americas where they were abused, tortured and murdered, you might also take the view that it was a small attempt to right the injustice Britain had perpetrated and had grown very wealthy on. In my opinion, it's not much to crow about.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 11:23 - Mar 12 with 1731 viewskropotkin41

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:47 - Mar 12 by dmm

I'm reading it at the moment. It's almost impossible to summarise because of its broad analysis of ancient history. Suffice to say it seriously challenges many assumptions about how humans have ordered their lives in the past and consequently what we assume is the norm for society today.


This.

‘morbid curiosity about where this is all going’

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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 11:40 - Mar 12 with 1661 viewsstowmarketrange

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 11:14 - Mar 12 by izlingtonhoop

I know that. So I don't need to have a quick look.

The question was, how did a tiny island become so powerful?

My answer was, slavery.
[Post edited 12 Mar 2022 11:17]


We were also a pretty powerful country from the medieval age onwards,and that can’t be put down to slavery.
Although our power grew because of the slave trade and colonisation,we were a rich and powerful country to begin with.At least as far as European countries go.

But the slave trade and colonisation leave a shameful scar on our history over the last 300 years,but we weren’t the only ones involved,but we seemed to do better out of it than our neighbours on the continent.
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 12:24 - Mar 12 with 1569 viewsJuzzie

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 08:40 - Mar 12 by PunteR

How the fk have we got onto British slavery on this thread?


Look. I-- I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.'
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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 12:26 - Mar 12 with 1558 viewsdmm

The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 12:24 - Mar 12 by Juzzie

Look. I-- I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.'


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The Russian Bloke at North Battersea on 13:08 - Mar 12 with 3366 viewsQPR_John

If Chelsea seemingly depended on Abramovich to such an extent they are now in financial difficulty how have they not been charged with contravening FFP (or whatever it is called now) regulations. I’m sure when we were charged our owners had not put billions into the club.
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