| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners 13:16 - Feb 1 with 3219 views | magicdaps10 |
And why not!
A bit coming out about the owners pulling plugs on deals, not committing to some.
To me the press are getting these things out there to highlight the issues with the board.
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:21 - Feb 1 with 2460 views | magicdaps10 |
Looking likely that someone has gone to the reporters venting their frustration.
From what I am hearing, things are not good in the corridors of the club.....expect a fall out in the next few weeks/months.
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:24 - Feb 1 with 2444 views | max936 |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:21 - Feb 1 by magicdaps10 |
Looking likely that someone has gone to the reporters venting their frustration.
From what I am hearing, things are not good in the corridors of the club.....expect a fall out in the next few weeks/months.
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:32 - Feb 1 with 2397 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Where's the sense in blowing hundreds of thousands on a pointless loan for Wolf when we desperately needed funds for permanent signings?
Whoever is to blame for this window should be relieved of their duties. |  |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:36 - Feb 1 with 2397 views | magicdaps10 |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:32 - Feb 1 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Where's the sense in blowing hundreds of thousands on a pointless loan for Wolf when we desperately needed funds for permanent signings?
Whoever is to blame for this window should be relieved of their duties. |
Well that would be the owners.
Looks like Winter, Martin and Allen have done their side and the groundwork..... The owners just needed to show a little support and sign it off. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:45 - Feb 1 with 2381 views | KeithHaynes |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:21 - Feb 1 by magicdaps10 |
Looking likely that someone has gone to the reporters venting their frustration.
From what I am hearing, things are not good in the corridors of the club.....expect a fall out in the next few weeks/months.
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Starting with Piroe ? |  |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:53 - Feb 1 with 2356 views | A_Fans_Dad |
That walesonline article was pretty good. |  | | |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 14:19 - Feb 1 with 2308 views | owainglyndwr |
We need rid of the yanks , no interest in the club other than draining it ..
Please sell us FFS |  | | |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 14:22 - Feb 1 with 2294 views | onehunglow |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:32 - Feb 1 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Where's the sense in blowing hundreds of thousands on a pointless loan for Wolf when we desperately needed funds for permanent signings?
Whoever is to blame for this window should be relieved of their duties. |
Indeed, A coup as I recall it. It could rank with that of Renato Sanches .
Wolf is exactly what we didnt need.
Other teams must clearly love playing us.
Nathan Jones tonight too,has always shafted us. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:05 - Feb 1 with 2226 views | Flashberryjack |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 14:22 - Feb 1 by onehunglow |
Indeed, A coup as I recall it. It could rank with that of Renato Sanches .
Wolf is exactly what we didnt need.
Other teams must clearly love playing us.
Nathan Jones tonight too,has always shafted us. |
Teams know exactly how to play us, and I expect nothing less of Nathan Jones's team tonight.
High press, and wait for our mistakes. |  |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:24 - Feb 1 with 2196 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 14:19 - Feb 1 by owainglyndwr |
We need rid of the yanks , no interest in the club other than draining it ..
Please sell us FFS |
Who is going to buy Swansea which is 21% owned by the Trust. They will want £21m for their holding. Its only worth about £6m-£8m.
Great flag great names but you are not worthy of it. Put you fighting spirit into the Trust and get them to invest into the club instead of South east English legal people educted in the great private schools of Surrey and Kent.
Huw Jenkins was the Owain Glyndwr of his time. Went to Old Trafford, Emirates Stanford Bridge Goodison, Anfield and handed them their backsides 2010 -2016.
Cymru am byth. |  |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:27 - Feb 1 with 2194 views | Chief |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:24 - Feb 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Who is going to buy Swansea which is 21% owned by the Trust. They will want £21m for their holding. Its only worth about £6m-£8m.
Great flag great names but you are not worthy of it. Put you fighting spirit into the Trust and get them to invest into the club instead of South east English legal people educted in the great private schools of Surrey and Kent.
Huw Jenkins was the Owain Glyndwr of his time. Went to Old Trafford, Emirates Stanford Bridge Goodison, Anfield and handed them their backsides 2010 -2016.
Cymru am byth. |
The post you responded to had zero reference to the trust. Your vested interest bias showing through.
Stick to the topic thread if you have to contribute. [Post edited 1 Feb 2022 15:28]
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:40 - Feb 1 with 2165 views | LittleEnglandJack |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:32 - Feb 1 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Where's the sense in blowing hundreds of thousands on a pointless loan for Wolf when we desperately needed funds for permanent signings?
Whoever is to blame for this window should be relieved of their duties. |
Absolutely, I hate to write any player off but at the moment Wolf looks like an ill-advised signing to say the least.
Lad is miles off the pace fitness wise and clearly low on confidence too. Moving to a foreign league is difficult for a youngster at the best of times, but couple it with the circumstances and the fact that he's moving to a team short on confidence itself, playing in one of the world's most competitive leagues...
I just don't see it working out, unfortunately. This is absolutely not a criticism of the player himself btw as I'm sure there's a player in there. But as we all know, we've got form for absolutely honking 'marquee' loan signings from abroad, and this has all the hallmarks of another.
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:41 - Feb 1 with 2157 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:27 - Feb 1 by Chief |
The post you responded to had zero reference to the trust. Your vested interest bias showing through.
Stick to the topic thread if you have to contribute. [Post edited 1 Feb 2022 15:28]
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The poster wants the club to be sold. Will the trust sell up at the current market valuation? It is a valid comment. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:43 - Feb 1 with 2145 views | Chief |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:41 - Feb 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The poster wants the club to be sold. Will the trust sell up at the current market valuation? It is a valid comment. |
And that had zero connection to where the trust's legal representation may or may not be based.
And no I doubt the trust would sell or might not even be given the opportunity to. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 16:23 - Feb 1 with 2096 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:43 - Feb 1 by Chief |
And that had zero connection to where the trust's legal representation may or may not be based.
And no I doubt the trust would sell or might not even be given the opportunity to. |
A buyer comes to Swansea and wants to buy the whole club for £50m. Are the Trust willing to consider selling their shares for £10.5m ?
If they are not this may put off a buyer.
If it takes months to come to a decision it will put off a buyer.
If hey want an extra £10m it will put off a buyer.
Looks like we are stick with the current owners then. It could be worse lets face it. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 16:50 - Feb 1 with 2061 views | Chief |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 16:23 - Feb 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
A buyer comes to Swansea and wants to buy the whole club for £50m. Are the Trust willing to consider selling their shares for £10.5m ?
If they are not this may put off a buyer.
If it takes months to come to a decision it will put off a buyer.
If hey want an extra £10m it will put off a buyer.
Looks like we are stick with the current owners then. It could be worse lets face it. |
I have no idea, probably depends on who's offering the money.
I've maintained all along, the majority owners aren't great by any stretch but there are worse out there. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 17:07 - Feb 1 with 2037 views | OptimisticJack |
To some extent I can understand the lack of signings.
A lot was dependent on us shipping some players out ie Dhanda, Patto, Fulton etc
If no team comes in with a reasonable offer for these players then we are stuck.
The books have to be balanced. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 18:17 - Feb 1 with 1940 views | BillyChong |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 15:24 - Feb 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Who is going to buy Swansea which is 21% owned by the Trust. They will want £21m for their holding. Its only worth about £6m-£8m.
Great flag great names but you are not worthy of it. Put you fighting spirit into the Trust and get them to invest into the club instead of South east English legal people educted in the great private schools of Surrey and Kent.
Huw Jenkins was the Owain Glyndwr of his time. Went to Old Trafford, Emirates Stanford Bridge Goodison, Anfield and handed them their backsides 2010 -2016.
Cymru am byth. |
Who would want to buy the club with the £10m debts incurred by the American loans? Investment in professional fees you say, the same people on an earner from the club paying the Australian banks and associates to get the Rodon money early? | | | |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 18:34 - Feb 1 with 1921 views | PawelAbbott |
Why doesn't the Trust look to sell their shares? Not to the current owners but to someone who does have some money to invest? The Trust will never have money to invest. If they sell now then the money is there, if the club sinks down further through the league, to buy it back.
At the moment they are the only ones under any local control who have the ability to find an outside investor that they have much input in the selection of.
If they sell to someone in a position to use that 21% as a starting point to buy more of the club. Then they gave a direct approach to finding someone to take over, rather than wait for the Americans to sell. | | | |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 19:04 - Feb 1 with 1895 views | marchamjack |
When is that well-connected, experienced businessman Silverstein coming over to sort out the transfer window then?
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 19:30 - Feb 1 with 1873 views | Chief |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 18:34 - Feb 1 by PawelAbbott |
Why doesn't the Trust look to sell their shares? Not to the current owners but to someone who does have some money to invest? The Trust will never have money to invest. If they sell now then the money is there, if the club sinks down further through the league, to buy it back.
At the moment they are the only ones under any local control who have the ability to find an outside investor that they have much input in the selection of.
If they sell to someone in a position to use that 21% as a starting point to buy more of the club. Then they gave a direct approach to finding someone to take over, rather than wait for the Americans to sell. |
Well 1. Selling shares in an entity that's demonstrably on a downward curve and have no say in because it's only 21%s worth of voting rights (the sellouts sold out their voting rights too) isn't going to be an easy sale
2. The trust are pursuing a court case that could see their shares sold at the premier league price of them. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 19:32 - Feb 1 with 1865 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 18:34 - Feb 1 by PawelAbbott |
Why doesn't the Trust look to sell their shares? Not to the current owners but to someone who does have some money to invest? The Trust will never have money to invest. If they sell now then the money is there, if the club sinks down further through the league, to buy it back.
At the moment they are the only ones under any local control who have the ability to find an outside investor that they have much input in the selection of.
If they sell to someone in a position to use that 21% as a starting point to buy more of the club. Then they gave a direct approach to finding someone to take over, rather than wait for the Americans to sell. |
The Trust can invest. if they had sold in 2016 with £15m in the bank they could have thrown their share into the convertible loan note for instance. £500k would have been welcome plus earning £25,000 interest. They had £880,000 in a current account according to accounts.
Their problem is that they have not investigated their investment potential. They must be able to protect their money from inflation somehow. If they cannot they may as well wind themselves up. They will only be a service their interests of the banking system.
They are getting negligible interest on their funds with 5% inflation eroding their value. It is an issue for me because I am switched on. It is not an issue for members and the board because they are not switched on. Their focus is on small town politics. It is staggering. No leadership I am afraid.
They should be friendly with the US investors and have signed a drag on agreement to make sure they re not left behind twice. They need professional business management advice to point them to a way of making money and being useful to the club its fans and the city. The current impasse is bad all round. They need to commission a report to defined strategy once their have defined their objectives and principles .
The US people are not the bad guys they are painted as. They have walked into a politicised community that associate profits and buying and selling share as greed. Its bonkers. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 19:45 - Feb 1 with 1849 views | Chief |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 19:32 - Feb 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The Trust can invest. if they had sold in 2016 with £15m in the bank they could have thrown their share into the convertible loan note for instance. £500k would have been welcome plus earning £25,000 interest. They had £880,000 in a current account according to accounts.
Their problem is that they have not investigated their investment potential. They must be able to protect their money from inflation somehow. If they cannot they may as well wind themselves up. They will only be a service their interests of the banking system.
They are getting negligible interest on their funds with 5% inflation eroding their value. It is an issue for me because I am switched on. It is not an issue for members and the board because they are not switched on. Their focus is on small town politics. It is staggering. No leadership I am afraid.
They should be friendly with the US investors and have signed a drag on agreement to make sure they re not left behind twice. They need professional business management advice to point them to a way of making money and being useful to the club its fans and the city. The current impasse is bad all round. They need to commission a report to defined strategy once their have defined their objectives and principles .
The US people are not the bad guys they are painted as. They have walked into a politicised community that associate profits and buying and selling share as greed. Its bonkers. |
What you've missed out:
- the trust never got a proper offer for all their shares so couldn't sell up at the same rate and terms as the sellouts had.
- The American owners as you know refuse to engage or cooperate with the trust, they're unlikely to agree to a tag on clause because it's of no benefit to them.
- the court case if favourable results blows all your financial analysis out of the water. | |
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 20:09 - Feb 1 with 1828 views | max936 |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 13:32 - Feb 1 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Where's the sense in blowing hundreds of thousands on a pointless loan for Wolf when we desperately needed funds for permanent signings?
Whoever is to blame for this window should be relieved of their duties. |
He's showing up tonight fair play looks class, great start by us Grimes superb, Downes needs to cool his heels, booked after 10 min's. Obafemi, really unlucky again.
Fisher doesn't look like he commands his area, flapped a bit at the freekick, we had a bit of luck there. [Post edited 1 Feb 2022 20:11]
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| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 21:04 - Feb 1 with 1784 views | PawelAbbott |
| Looks like reporters are highlighting the owners on 19:30 - Feb 1 by Chief |
Well 1. Selling shares in an entity that's demonstrably on a downward curve and have no say in because it's only 21%s worth of voting rights (the sellouts sold out their voting rights too) isn't going to be an easy sale
2. The trust are pursuing a court case that could see their shares sold at the premier league price of them. |
For point 1, you wouldn't think anyone would buy into any football club but they do. Someone is looking at buying Derby even with the mess they are in.
For point 2, that could drag on for years | | | |
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