| Olly Rath 14:38 - Jul 27 with 21637 views | Dale92 |
Pete o'Rourke stating weve turned down a bid from Rotherham |  |
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| Olly Rath on 15:17 - Aug 4 with 2704 views | TVOS1907 |
| Olly Rath on 15:14 - Aug 4 by boromat |
The initial fee normally leaks at some point anyway for those interested. |
But it's not official. |  |
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| Olly Rath on 15:27 - Aug 4 with 2651 views | SuddenLad |
| Olly Rath on 14:57 - Aug 4 by Brierls |
Like Tom, 49th & TVOS, I don't see why undisclosed fees are such a bugbear for some. It is the norm for Football clubs (most, if not all) not to disclose fees and they have their reasons for that, which are undoubtedly more valid than 'John from Rochdale' needing to satisfy his own curiosity.
You don't see as much negativity when we're signing players for an undisclosed fee. |
I think the main reason is that supporters want to know that the club have sold the player for a fee that represents the players 'value' although inevitably the supporters ideas of a 'value' will probably far exceed that of the buying club and in many cases will be unrealistic.
Every player has a price and every club has a trigger point at which selling is the only realistic option.
As others have pointed out, in this day and age, the deals are very often so complex with the additions and clauses that announcing 'undisclosed' is better than misinterpreting the initial headline figure and enraging fans who don't grasp the complexities. |  |
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| Olly Rath on 15:56 - Aug 4 with 2551 views | Daley_Lama |
| Olly Rath on 14:39 - Aug 4 by 49thseason |
Undisclosed fee is probably an attempt to not let the world know we have a few quid and therefore can pay more towards loans and actual transfers. If it makes any real difference I have no idea. But there is no harm in letting the world think we are skint if we are or we are not. |
When this subject was addresses once by the club, this was the reason given at the time - clubs might up their transfer prices if they know we have money.
Given that we don’t exactly have a longstanding history of buying players for a fee this makes that point erm, pointless.
I don’t believe most other EFL clubs adopt this policy and i don’t believe most clubs request this when dealing with RAFC. I do believe It is RAFC who insist on it de-facto.
My personal opinion is that it is done to protect the club from fan backlash “we should have got more for him” criticism. If you believe you have got the best deal on a transfer then this should not be required either.
Hey-ho, like Mrs Brown’s Boys, some cannot fathom why people dislike it while others would rather have their eyelids sewn together than watch.
Plus la difference |  |
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| Olly Rath on 16:37 - Aug 4 with 2411 views | DaleiLama |
Nice tribute this. 5 years 183 appearances.
Never stopped til he dropped, inspirational team-mate and some decent goals over the years. Thanks for the memories Ollie and good luck for the future. |  |
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| Olly Rath on 16:46 - Aug 4 with 2358 views | TVOS1907 |
| Olly Rath on 15:56 - Aug 4 by Daley_Lama |
When this subject was addresses once by the club, this was the reason given at the time - clubs might up their transfer prices if they know we have money.
Given that we don’t exactly have a longstanding history of buying players for a fee this makes that point erm, pointless.
I don’t believe most other EFL clubs adopt this policy and i don’t believe most clubs request this when dealing with RAFC. I do believe It is RAFC who insist on it de-facto.
My personal opinion is that it is done to protect the club from fan backlash “we should have got more for him” criticism. If you believe you have got the best deal on a transfer then this should not be required either.
Hey-ho, like Mrs Brown’s Boys, some cannot fathom why people dislike it while others would rather have their eyelids sewn together than watch.
Plus la difference |
You'll struggle to find many transfers in the past 10 years that aren't given as "undisclosed", whether they involve Dale or don't. | |
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| Olly Rath on 17:34 - Aug 4 with 2199 views | BigKindo |
BBC Sports Transfer 'Done deals' stating it is a free transfer 😯 |  | | |
| Olly Rath on 17:46 - Aug 4 with 2130 views | James1980 |
| Olly Rath on 17:34 - Aug 4 by BigKindo |
BBC Sports Transfer 'Done deals' stating it is a free transfer 😯 |
I expect this might be raised at the forum. |  |
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| Olly Rath on 18:00 - Aug 4 with 2060 views | D_Alien |
| Olly Rath on 14:57 - Aug 4 by Brierls |
Like Tom, 49th & TVOS, I don't see why undisclosed fees are such a bugbear for some. It is the norm for Football clubs (most, if not all) not to disclose fees and they have their reasons for that, which are undoubtedly more valid than 'John from Rochdale' needing to satisfy his own curiosity.
You don't see as much negativity when we're signing players for an undisclosed fee. |
They're not a bugbear (whatever that may be)
It'd just be more interesting (as i've already said) if we knew the details, even if its just the amount minus add-ons
It really was more interesting when the fee was disclosed, it was a whole topic about the game we love in its own right. Anything that takes away from that is a negative
Its not as if other clubs won't know how much the deal has brought into our coffers, or at least a ballpark figure
And if John thinks its a positive, he's right |  |
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| Olly Rath on 18:16 - Aug 4 with 1967 views | 49thseason |
| Olly Rath on 15:56 - Aug 4 by Daley_Lama |
When this subject was addresses once by the club, this was the reason given at the time - clubs might up their transfer prices if they know we have money.
Given that we don’t exactly have a longstanding history of buying players for a fee this makes that point erm, pointless.
I don’t believe most other EFL clubs adopt this policy and i don’t believe most clubs request this when dealing with RAFC. I do believe It is RAFC who insist on it de-facto.
My personal opinion is that it is done to protect the club from fan backlash “we should have got more for him” criticism. If you believe you have got the best deal on a transfer then this should not be required either.
Hey-ho, like Mrs Brown’s Boys, some cannot fathom why people dislike it while others would rather have their eyelids sewn together than watch.
Plus la difference |
We paid fees for Humphrys and Beesley, we also contribute to wages for loanees. All these require a negotiation of some sort, so not being known for being flush seems to me to be a better place to start a negotiation than having the world know your finances are better than OK. |  | | |
| Olly Rath on 18:16 - Aug 4 with 1969 views | Brierls |
| Olly Rath on 18:00 - Aug 4 by D_Alien |
They're not a bugbear (whatever that may be)
It'd just be more interesting (as i've already said) if we knew the details, even if its just the amount minus add-ons
It really was more interesting when the fee was disclosed, it was a whole topic about the game we love in its own right. Anything that takes away from that is a negative
Its not as if other clubs won't know how much the deal has brought into our coffers, or at least a ballpark figure
And if John thinks its a positive, he's right |
Bugbear - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/bugbear
Origin unknown, but you can make something up if you want.  |  | | |
| Olly Rath on 18:35 - Aug 4 with 1875 views | kel |
A game that always sticks out in my mind is a home win over Walsall (4-0 I think) in which Ollie was on another planet to the other players on the pitch. Thought he was ace from that moment and have loved watching him play since. Good luck, Ollie, me and my kids will miss you.
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| Olly Rath on 19:08 - Aug 4 with 1770 views | D_Alien |
Yeah, i knew what it meant, i just wondered if you did | |
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| Olly Rath on 11:07 - Aug 5 with 1391 views | tony_roch975 |
just seen his very fulsome goodbye tweet on the club's twitter feed - a class act, all the best Ollie | |
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