| 20th June...? on 08:07 - Jun 1 with 5474 views | enfieldargh |
Its always been said by them wot know that players get injuries if they havnt got up to match play speed.
Its not unusual for several players not to make it through pre-season without picking up injuries.
Guess this is the main issue plus logistics for away games |  |
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| 20th June...? on 08:09 - Jun 1 with 5466 views | colinallcars |
I agree with Hoos. To just announce it without prior consultation with the individual clubs seems like madness to me but not entirely surprising. |  | | |
| 20th June...? on 09:03 - Jun 1 with 5312 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
How dare they, it's only what the Prem think that matters.
Fined and relegated to D1 |  |
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| 20th June...? on 09:28 - Jun 1 with 5263 views | daveB |
a real disgrace that clubs were not consulted with this, what a mess |  | | |
| 20th June...? on 09:41 - Jun 1 with 5234 views | Northernr |
I'm really torn on this. Had a bash at writing the Barnsley preview intro sitting in the sun yesterday and it just felt too negative in tone, but at the same time I cannot get excited about football behind closed doors and feel that if you took television and money out of the equation there's no way it would be coming back this soon, or coming back at all until crowds can go in again.
I can perhaps see why you need to just suck it up and get these nine games done get the season completed and tie up those loose ends to prevent a logistical nightmare, but beyond that I don't think another season should be started without crowds. Who's it for? Sky Sports. Nobody else. |  | | |
| 20th June...? on 10:10 - Jun 1 with 5153 views | francisbowles |
| 20th June...? on 08:07 - Jun 1 by enfieldargh |
Its always been said by them wot know that players get injuries if they havnt got up to match play speed.
Its not unusual for several players not to make it through pre-season without picking up injuries.
Guess this is the main issue plus logistics for away games |
Agree with all of that enfield. They have had a longer break than they would normally get between end of fixtures and start of preseason training.
When they usually come back in July they have 5 to 6 weeks and several friendly matches to get up to full fitness.
Whilst it's the same for everybody, it may favour those with larger squads if the injuries start to mount up.
Might be better if they let the Prem get their fixtures played and then restart the Championship at the beginning of August. It would give the EFL a higher profile.
They could potentially go straight into a new season in October. |  | | |
| 20th June...? on 10:46 - Jun 1 with 5085 views | daveB |
| 20th June...? on 09:41 - Jun 1 by Northernr |
I'm really torn on this. Had a bash at writing the Barnsley preview intro sitting in the sun yesterday and it just felt too negative in tone, but at the same time I cannot get excited about football behind closed doors and feel that if you took television and money out of the equation there's no way it would be coming back this soon, or coming back at all until crowds can go in again.
I can perhaps see why you need to just suck it up and get these nine games done get the season completed and tie up those loose ends to prevent a logistical nightmare, but beyond that I don't think another season should be started without crowds. Who's it for? Sky Sports. Nobody else. |
next season could have crowds, they are talking about having 10,000 tickets for the cup final to each club so you could have say a third capacity of stadiums at the start of next season with no away fans then increase as we go along. | | | |
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| 20th June...? on 10:49 - Jun 1 with 5079 views | Northernr |
| 20th June...? on 10:46 - Jun 1 by daveB |
next season could have crowds, they are talking about having 10,000 tickets for the cup final to each club so you could have say a third capacity of stadiums at the start of next season with no away fans then increase as we go along. |
Looking forward to that row about who gets a ticket and who doesn't. | | | |
| 20th June...? on 10:55 - Jun 1 with 5046 views | TacticalR |
| 20th June...? on 09:41 - Jun 1 by Northernr |
I'm really torn on this. Had a bash at writing the Barnsley preview intro sitting in the sun yesterday and it just felt too negative in tone, but at the same time I cannot get excited about football behind closed doors and feel that if you took television and money out of the equation there's no way it would be coming back this soon, or coming back at all until crowds can go in again.
I can perhaps see why you need to just suck it up and get these nine games done get the season completed and tie up those loose ends to prevent a logistical nightmare, but beyond that I don't think another season should be started without crowds. Who's it for? Sky Sports. Nobody else. |
Haven't Sky Sports always wanted to do away with fans? |  |
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| 20th June...? on 11:00 - Jun 1 with 5023 views | daveB |
| 20th June...? on 10:49 - Jun 1 by Northernr |
Looking forward to that row about who gets a ticket and who doesn't. |
whatever they do will be a row but say for instance you have 8,000 season ticket holders you could say right 4,000 of you can go to games 1, 3,5, 7 and the other 4,000 to games, 2,4,6,8
You could then say after 6 games OK that has worked lets increase capacity to 6,000 per game so open up to 2,000 members getting tickets
Not ideal, loads of issues with that but there is no perfect answer.
Completely agree with you that crowds are needed, getting this season done is fine by me without crowds but next season need to try and do something [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 11:03]
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| 20th June...? on 11:00 - Jun 1 with 5024 views | traininvain |
| 20th June...? on 09:41 - Jun 1 by Northernr |
I'm really torn on this. Had a bash at writing the Barnsley preview intro sitting in the sun yesterday and it just felt too negative in tone, but at the same time I cannot get excited about football behind closed doors and feel that if you took television and money out of the equation there's no way it would be coming back this soon, or coming back at all until crowds can go in again.
I can perhaps see why you need to just suck it up and get these nine games done get the season completed and tie up those loose ends to prevent a logistical nightmare, but beyond that I don't think another season should be started without crowds. Who's it for? Sky Sports. Nobody else. |
Sorry Clive but I’m for it! I’ve watched a few of the Bundesliga games behind closed doors and it certainly feels odd but I’m getting used to it.
To be honest, I forgot about the lack of atmosphere during the Dortmund vs Bayern game as the quality and intensity was a step up. I think it’ll take a few weeks from the restart before we see the same over here.
More importantly, we need to get back to something approaching normal life and having football back on the tv (albeit behind closed doors) will play a major part for many people.
It’s going to be a gradual process and many people will be afraid to go back to normal life so football can help by not only giving us entertainment and something to talk about (aside from the bloody virus!) but also show people that it’s generally safe to be outside. This will help pubs, restaurants etc when they reopen.
If it’s safe to introduce a limited number of supporters at some stage this year then great but that decision should be guided by science. |  | | |
| 20th June...? on 11:01 - Jun 1 with 5016 views | daveB |
| 20th June...? on 10:55 - Jun 1 by TacticalR |
Haven't Sky Sports always wanted to do away with fans? |
quite the opposite, the fans help sell the football all over the world, they wouldn't pay anywhere near as much without supporters | | | |
| 20th June...? on 11:19 - Jun 1 with 4954 views | Antti_Heinola |
Can't agree with you there davman.
In the Prem, the clubs have been consulted all along the line and the date was only agreed when all the clubs were in agreement with it and with the protocols.
As usual, the FL looks two-bit. There should be full consultation - it's obvious that's way too early. |  |
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| 20th June...? on 11:37 - Jun 1 with 4880 views | enfieldargh |
| 20th June...? on 11:00 - Jun 1 by traininvain |
Sorry Clive but I’m for it! I’ve watched a few of the Bundesliga games behind closed doors and it certainly feels odd but I’m getting used to it.
To be honest, I forgot about the lack of atmosphere during the Dortmund vs Bayern game as the quality and intensity was a step up. I think it’ll take a few weeks from the restart before we see the same over here.
More importantly, we need to get back to something approaching normal life and having football back on the tv (albeit behind closed doors) will play a major part for many people.
It’s going to be a gradual process and many people will be afraid to go back to normal life so football can help by not only giving us entertainment and something to talk about (aside from the bloody virus!) but also show people that it’s generally safe to be outside. This will help pubs, restaurants etc when they reopen.
If it’s safe to introduce a limited number of supporters at some stage this year then great but that decision should be guided by science. |
I've sometimes watched the U23 when their games are shown live either from HQ or the training ground(basically a field) and found them really enjoyable.
Watching BCD games I dont think is such a hardship. I do want the games played when the clubs deem to be ready as opposed to in a couple of weeks. | |
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| 20th June...? on 11:56 - Jun 1 with 4794 views | switchingcode |
Just listened to Warburton on Talkshite can’t see what his problem is why did he think they were back in training for ?cricket season.Lee Bowyer was on after and if any manager was entitled to moan it’s him 15 players out of contract. | | | |
| 20th June...? on 12:08 - Jun 1 with 4723 views | DieByYourSide |
Slightly odd this throwing the toys out of the pram from Warbs and Hoos.
They've been so vocal about wanting to finish what's been started and now to use words like 'vehemently opposed' and 'appalled' is a real 180. Get they'd want to be properly consulted but comes across a bit out of touch perhaps... | |
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| 20th June...? on 12:09 - Jun 1 with 4718 views | digswellhoop |
Why are the club appalled? Just get on with it like the rest of the uk are doing | | | |
| 20th June...? on 12:09 - Jun 1 with 4715 views | WokingR |
I'm a bit confused by this.
Obviously there should have been better communication but, the players are already back training, so what exactly did he think the end result would be ? |  | | |
| 20th June...? on 12:20 - Jun 1 with 4672 views | welwynranger |
| 20th June...? on 12:09 - Jun 1 by WokingR |
I'm a bit confused by this.
Obviously there should have been better communication but, the players are already back training, so what exactly did he think the end result would be ? |
Well I'm happy. If we can continue the form we had before lockdown we could send Luton down and be in the play offs with the teams we have to play. Imagine that. | | | |
| 20th June...? on 12:26 - Jun 1 with 4648 views | daveB |
| 20th June...? on 12:09 - Jun 1 by digswellhoop |
Why are the club appalled? Just get on with it like the rest of the uk are doing |
They were supposed to have a vote on the 8th June but the EFL have just announced it without doing any of that. Piss poor by the EFL.
if only they were this quick to impose their own FFP punishments | | | |
| 20th June...? on 12:33 - Jun 1 with 4624 views | Rangersw12 |
| 20th June...? on 11:56 - Jun 1 by switchingcode |
Just listened to Warburton on Talkshite can’t see what his problem is why did he think they were back in training for ?cricket season.Lee Bowyer was on after and if any manager was entitled to moan it’s him 15 players out of contract. |
What a surprise the bitter Bee has a problem with Warburton
Point is nobody was consulted and they haven't even gone back to contact training yet with a full team
This is elite level sport but by rushing it back without proper preparation it will become farce | | | |
| 20th June...? on 13:07 - Jun 1 with 4513 views | derbyhoop |
I'm not sure the problem is restarting on 20 June. That was always likely after the PL announcement last week.
It's the fact there seems to be zero consultation from EFL to the clubs that are supposed to be their members.
Will the players be ready? Probably .
Will they be as fit as they were on March 9th? Unlikely
Will it be the same for all 24 clubs? Of course. |  |
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| 20th June...? on 13:12 - Jun 1 with 4485 views | switchingcode |
| 20th June...? on 12:33 - Jun 1 by Rangersw12 |
What a surprise the bitter Bee has a problem with Warburton
Point is nobody was consulted and they haven't even gone back to contact training yet with a full team
This is elite level sport but by rushing it back without proper preparation it will become farce |
Not bitter what have I got to be bitter about?Most championship clubs have been back 2 weeks and full contact training has been in place for nearly a week now.Surprised as he was only saying how keen he was to get back to playing and challenging for a play off place last week. | | | |
| 20th June...? on 13:15 - Jun 1 with 4469 views | loftus77 |
| 20th June...? on 12:09 - Jun 1 by WokingR |
I'm a bit confused by this.
Obviously there should have been better communication but, the players are already back training, so what exactly did he think the end result would be ? |
Yes - I take Hoos's point, but have we been a tad too strident in our language on this? Maybe best to carefully co-ordinate our response with other Championship clubs (I note 'Boro are on board). We don't want to be a lone dissenting voice on this. | | | |
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