| Wells off? on 14:16 - Jan 28 with 3243 views | Match82 |
Same thing as bidding for a player in league 1 or 2 IMO. Unproven, but that's why they are cheap(er). Didn't work with Washington but that doesn't mean it was the wrong approach.
I'd personally like us to start by looking at our coaching setup, try and find one or two skills that our coaches are especially good at developing, focus on identifying young players in the lower leagues who are very good but aren't playing at a higher level because they are lacking in those specific skills, then training them up. |  | |  |
| Wells off? on 14:26 - Jan 28 with 3171 views | rsonist |
| Wells off? on 14:16 - Jan 28 by Match82 |
Same thing as bidding for a player in league 1 or 2 IMO. Unproven, but that's why they are cheap(er). Didn't work with Washington but that doesn't mean it was the wrong approach.
I'd personally like us to start by looking at our coaching setup, try and find one or two skills that our coaches are especially good at developing, focus on identifying young players in the lower leagues who are very good but aren't playing at a higher level because they are lacking in those specific skills, then training them up. |
Oh don't get me wrong I completely agree. The lower leagues haven't seemed to be on our radar since MW arrived (understandably, arguably) but whatever the reason that will have to change if we're to progress.
Shankland looks particularly risky at that price is my point. Precedents aren't great either - Leigh Griffiths didn't set the world on fire at Wolves for instance. |  | | |
| Wells off? on 15:05 - Jan 28 with 3055 views | Match82 |
| Wells off? on 14:26 - Jan 28 by rsonist |
Oh don't get me wrong I completely agree. The lower leagues haven't seemed to be on our radar since MW arrived (understandably, arguably) but whatever the reason that will have to change if we're to progress.
Shankland looks particularly risky at that price is my point. Precedents aren't great either - Leigh Griffiths didn't set the world on fire at Wolves for instance. |
2mil seems like a lot for a team of our financial situation on the face of it. But it's so hard to tell what good value is with the prices being thrown at strikers these days! | | | |
| Wells off? on 15:35 - Jan 28 with 2986 views | CincyHoop |
| Wells off? on 15:05 - Jan 28 by Match82 |
2mil seems like a lot for a team of our financial situation on the face of it. But it's so hard to tell what good value is with the prices being thrown at strikers these days! |
If he can't get goals with BOS, Eze, Chair, and Pugh serving balls into the box, he won't score anywhere else either.. |  | | |
| Wells off? on 00:56 - Jan 29 with 2755 views | VancouverHoop |
| Wells off? on 12:33 - Jan 28 by paulparker |
If it’s 8 million then that’s a steal the lad from Brum is being touted as 20 million and he hasn’t even done his GCSES
Hugill will be the next one to get a move in the summer I can see a club paying 8 million for him
We are showcasing these players so other clubs get paid , it’s good in a way because clubs will gives us those players on loan on the flip side we are losing players every year and not getting any fees ourselves
We are becoming a feeder club |
Yes, but I daresay Wycombe fans might consider themselves a feeder club for us. It's how the game goes these days. | | | |
| Wells off? on 01:51 - Jan 29 with 2730 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Wells off? on 02:58 - Jan 28 by Northernr |
If so, none of that is a good deal for us. We lose a player for 8 who looks like he's going to be worth far more in the future, we gain a short term option approaching his 30th birthday, and we sticking plaster the gap it leaves with a kid who looks a million miles away on loan. |
Agree. I just hope I'm wrong because QPR have form for this kind of deal. [Post edited 29 Jan 2020 1:59]
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| Wells off? on 01:57 - Jan 29 with 2725 views | wombat |
| Wells off? on 01:51 - Jan 29 by Benny_the_Ball |
Agree. I just hope I'm wrong because QPR have form for this kind of deal. [Post edited 29 Jan 2020 1:59]
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My main concern is penrice leaving the club , so far Warburton I has bring in players he knows fair enough is he a good judge of player ? Not sure on that one to be honest , happy to fill the team with loans which have bar well and Hugill been mainly poor to be honest , Amos smith Mlakar no t great |  |
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| Wells off? on 10:01 - Jan 29 with 2628 views | loftus77 |
| Wells off? on 01:51 - Jan 29 by Benny_the_Ball |
Agree. I just hope I'm wrong because QPR have form for this kind of deal. [Post edited 29 Jan 2020 1:59]
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I always rated Keith Rowland. | | | |
| Wells off? on 10:15 - Jan 29 with 2572 views | loftboy |
| Wells off? on 01:57 - Jan 29 by wombat |
My main concern is penrice leaving the club , so far Warburton I has bring in players he knows fair enough is he a good judge of player ? Not sure on that one to be honest , happy to fill the team with loans which have bar well and Hugill been mainly poor to be honest , Amos smith Mlakar no t great |
You can’t say Hugill has been poor, he’s in double figures for the season. |  |
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| Wells off? on 10:16 - Jan 29 with 2567 views | paulparker |
| Wells off? on 01:57 - Jan 29 by wombat |
My main concern is penrice leaving the club , so far Warburton I has bring in players he knows fair enough is he a good judge of player ? Not sure on that one to be honest , happy to fill the team with loans which have bar well and Hugill been mainly poor to be honest , Amos smith Mlakar no t great |
Good point about penrice perhaps the club is going down the loan route more than the buying of players hence why penrice has gone |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Wells off? on 10:17 - Jan 29 with 2561 views | Gloucs_R |
| Wells off? on 10:15 - Jan 29 by loftboy |
You can’t say Hugill has been poor, he’s in double figures for the season. |
Agree, he's got 1 in 3 this season and some of those games he started on the bench |  |
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| Wells off? on 10:26 - Jan 29 with 2527 views | CroydonCaptJack |
Maybe Penrice was too closely linked to Ollie. |  | | |
| Wells off? on 10:56 - Jan 29 with 2441 views | eghamranger |
If wells doesn’t fancy it we do need someone this month.
Linked with Parrott and Shankland...who both are unknown in this league.
Shame we couldn’t of got Scott Hogan in.
MW must have a card up his sleeve. |  | | |
| Wells off? on 11:00 - Jan 29 with 2429 views | WestbourneR |
| Wells off? on 01:57 - Jan 29 by wombat |
My main concern is penrice leaving the club , so far Warburton I has bring in players he knows fair enough is he a good judge of player ? Not sure on that one to be honest , happy to fill the team with loans which have bar well and Hugill been mainly poor to be honest , Amos smith Mlakar no t great |
When and why did Penrice leave???
This is the man who spotted Freeman, Scowen and BOS.
BOS was particularly clever as he wasn't widely rated.
He's a truly brilliant scout and should be kept on at all costs. Probably the most important asset this club has along with Chris Ramsey. |  |
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| Wells off? on 11:01 - Jan 29 with 2412 views | Maggsinho |
| Wells off? on 11:00 - Jan 29 by WestbourneR |
When and why did Penrice leave???
This is the man who spotted Freeman, Scowen and BOS.
BOS was particularly clever as he wasn't widely rated.
He's a truly brilliant scout and should be kept on at all costs. Probably the most important asset this club has along with Chris Ramsey. |
6th December.
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/gary-penrice-departs/ |  | | |
| Wells off? on 11:02 - Jan 29 with 2404 views | queensparker |
| Wells off? on 11:00 - Jan 29 by WestbourneR |
When and why did Penrice leave???
This is the man who spotted Freeman, Scowen and BOS.
BOS was particularly clever as he wasn't widely rated.
He's a truly brilliant scout and should be kept on at all costs. Probably the most important asset this club has along with Chris Ramsey. |
He left a few months ago |  | | |
| Wells off? on 11:46 - Jan 29 with 2306 views | daveB |
| Wells off? on 10:16 - Jan 29 by paulparker |
Good point about penrice perhaps the club is going down the loan route more than the buying of players hence why penrice has gone |
Penrice was the one who suggested we go down the loan route last year and told them to wait as long as possible as they would get Wells if they held their nerve.
Shame he's gone but he did help to put in place a good structure so him going is not the end of the world |  | | |
| Wells off? on 11:53 - Jan 29 with 2273 views | WestbourneR |
The structures is all well and good but it's his eye that's special, you can't teach that.
P**sed off he's gone, I sometimes feel Les wants to be in charge of recruitment and feels threatened when he's not got total control. But the issue is... Peno seems to have a far better knack for spotting raw talent than Les | |
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| Wells off? on 12:29 - Jan 29 with 2186 views | nix |
| Wells off? on 01:57 - Jan 29 by wombat |
My main concern is penrice leaving the club , so far Warburton I has bring in players he knows fair enough is he a good judge of player ? Not sure on that one to be honest , happy to fill the team with loans which have bar well and Hugill been mainly poor to be honest , Amos smith Mlakar no t great |
Bit harsh to say Hughill has been poor. He's scored more already in the league (9) than anyone did in the whole of last season (seven for Wells, Freeman and Hemed). He hasn't scored as many in the last couple of months but we've been playing some good sides and Eze hasn't been quite at his creative best since Christmas because he looks knackered. Obviously we don't know what proportion of his salary we're paying but it seems a pretty good deal for one season, as to buy him would be £8 million and we would have to pay his full wages.
I think any of us would have been pleased with the number of goals we've scored this season but we've been just leaking goals. I do think it's not just the defence as our midfield have also been disappointing in terms of defending as I stated on another thread. |  | | |
| Wells off? on 14:19 - Jan 29 with 2032 views | daveB |
| Wells off? on 11:53 - Jan 29 by WestbourneR |
The structures is all well and good but it's his eye that's special, you can't teach that.
P**sed off he's gone, I sometimes feel Les wants to be in charge of recruitment and feels threatened when he's not got total control. But the issue is... Peno seems to have a far better knack for spotting raw talent than Les |
If that was the case he wouldn't have given Penrice the job | | | |
| Wells off? on 14:25 - Jan 29 with 2001 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Wells off? on 14:19 - Jan 29 by daveB |
If that was the case he wouldn't have given Penrice the job |
Or promoted a replacement. |  |
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| Wells off? on 14:35 - Jan 29 with 1953 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Wells off? on 11:00 - Jan 29 by WestbourneR |
When and why did Penrice leave???
This is the man who spotted Freeman, Scowen and BOS.
BOS was particularly clever as he wasn't widely rated.
He's a truly brilliant scout and should be kept on at all costs. Probably the most important asset this club has along with Chris Ramsey. |
Mel Johnson spotted BOS, and Mel's still here. Penrice got on board with it though and the two of them convinced Ollie to sign him. |  |
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| Wells off? on 15:04 - Jan 29 with 1875 views | rsonist |
| Wells off? on 14:35 - Jan 29 by Antti_Heinola |
Mel Johnson spotted BOS, and Mel's still here. Penrice got on board with it though and the two of them convinced Ollie to sign him. |
I hadn't heard that detail. Did it come up one of the podcasts? | | | |
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