| That M4 again! 19:56 - Dec 30 with 7232 views | jack2jack |
At least two or three more incidents near the llandarcy interchange today.
It's getting worse. What's to be done? |  | | |  |
| That M4 again! on 12:07 - Dec 31 with 1325 views | Andy1300 |
They need to extend the 50 limit to junction 44, Skewen, too many junctions in a short distance |  |
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| That M4 again! on 13:31 - Dec 31 with 1282 views | Jackfath |
Just what the Welsh economy needs, an extension of 50 mph driving to West Wales.
How about introducing more traffic police and increasing fines/bans for people who simply do not think that the highway code applies to them. |  |
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| That M4 again! on 16:58 - Dec 31 with 1212 views | jack2jack |
| That M4 again! on 13:31 - Dec 31 by Jackfath |
Just what the Welsh economy needs, an extension of 50 mph driving to West Wales.
How about introducing more traffic police and increasing fines/bans for people who simply do not think that the highway code applies to them. |
Any idea how much it costs the economy, when the emergency services are clearing up the carnage on the M4 on a daily basis? | | | |
| That M4 again! on 17:01 - Dec 31 with 1205 views | Jackfath |
| That M4 again! on 16:58 - Dec 31 by jack2jack |
Any idea how much it costs the economy, when the emergency services are clearing up the carnage on the M4 on a daily basis? |
No idea, sorry.
The idea of slowing down traffic due to the few who are clueless is crazy. Get them off the roads and make it faster for us all! | |
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| That M4 again! on 17:06 - Dec 31 with 1193 views | jack2jack |
| That M4 again! on 17:01 - Dec 31 by Jackfath |
No idea, sorry.
The idea of slowing down traffic due to the few who are clueless is crazy. Get them off the roads and make it faster for us all! |
You mean safer? | | | |
| That M4 again! on 17:09 - Dec 31 with 1189 views | Flashberryjack |
| That M4 again! on 13:31 - Dec 31 by Jackfath |
Just what the Welsh economy needs, an extension of 50 mph driving to West Wales.
How about introducing more traffic police and increasing fines/bans for people who simply do not think that the highway code applies to them. |
Nail right on the head mate.
The standard of my motorway driving is atrocious whether it's at 50 or 70 mph. |  |
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| That M4 again! on 17:12 - Dec 31 with 1185 views | Jackfath |
| That M4 again! on 17:06 - Dec 31 by jack2jack |
You mean safer? |
No. I mean faster. Get rid of the crap drivers that cant deal with motorway driving. Develop a minimum speed too. | |
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| That M4 again! on 17:18 - Dec 31 with 1178 views | jack2jack |
| That M4 again! on 17:12 - Dec 31 by Jackfath |
No. I mean faster. Get rid of the crap drivers that cant deal with motorway driving. Develop a minimum speed too. |
But you are not going to get rid of crap drivers, and the motorway cops can't be there 24/7.
Reducing speed, means you have more time to react should anything happen.
I'm not saying it's ideal to put permanent restrictions on motorways, but at least speeds can be monitored all the time, and fines handed out to those who flaut the rules. Especially on roads that have an unhealthy safety record. | | | |
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| That M4 again! on 17:22 - Dec 31 with 1170 views | Jackfath |
| That M4 again! on 17:18 - Dec 31 by jack2jack |
But you are not going to get rid of crap drivers, and the motorway cops can't be there 24/7.
Reducing speed, means you have more time to react should anything happen.
I'm not saying it's ideal to put permanent restrictions on motorways, but at least speeds can be monitored all the time, and fines handed out to those who flaut the rules. Especially on roads that have an unhealthy safety record. |
Cameras can be there 24/7. Slowing traffic adds to the problems. | |
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| That M4 again! on 17:22 - Dec 31 with 1170 views | controversial_jack |
| That M4 again! on 17:18 - Dec 31 by jack2jack |
But you are not going to get rid of crap drivers, and the motorway cops can't be there 24/7.
Reducing speed, means you have more time to react should anything happen.
I'm not saying it's ideal to put permanent restrictions on motorways, but at least speeds can be monitored all the time, and fines handed out to those who flaut the rules. Especially on roads that have an unhealthy safety record. |
If roads have bad safety records, then design them better and get to the root cause and not just fleece motorists |  | | |
| That M4 again! on 17:25 - Dec 31 with 1161 views | Glastonbury |
| That M4 again! on 17:18 - Dec 31 by jack2jack |
But you are not going to get rid of crap drivers, and the motorway cops can't be there 24/7.
Reducing speed, means you have more time to react should anything happen.
I'm not saying it's ideal to put permanent restrictions on motorways, but at least speeds can be monitored all the time, and fines handed out to those who flaut the rules. Especially on roads that have an unhealthy safety record. |
Serious question - Do u really believe driving slower is less pollution ? My thoughts is its a pure money making scheme. | | | |
| That M4 again! on 17:29 - Dec 31 with 1158 views | jack2jack |
| That M4 again! on 17:22 - Dec 31 by Jackfath |
Cameras can be there 24/7. Slowing traffic adds to the problems. |
That's what I said
How does slowing down traffic cause problems.
A steady stream of slower moving traffic is safer, surely.
Anyways we are on different wavelengths here so well agree to disagree.👠| | | |
| That M4 again! on 17:31 - Dec 31 with 1152 views | jack2jack |
| That M4 again! on 17:22 - Dec 31 by controversial_jack |
If roads have bad safety records, then design them better and get to the root cause and not just fleece motorists |
Roads are safe, it's the tvvats who drive on them that aren't | | | |
| That M4 again! on 17:36 - Dec 31 with 1148 views | jack2jack |
| That M4 again! on 17:25 - Dec 31 by Glastonbury |
Serious question - Do u really believe driving slower is less pollution ? My thoughts is its a pure money making scheme. |
Sorry pollution is not the issue here.
Anyway standing traffic causes pollution.You know like when your sitting in a 5 mile queue, because someone has stuffed there car into a central Res or worse.
Let be reasonable here, something has to be done.
What's more important saving lives, or a bit of money making off the back of clowns who can't keep to the speed limit, serious question? [Post edited 31 Dec 2019 17:39]
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| That M4 again! on 17:49 - Dec 31 with 1139 views | exiledclaseboy |
The roads in South Wales and across much of the UK weren’t designed to cater for the volume of traffic currently using them. Simple. The future will see more and more efforts to reduce the number of cars on the roads. |  |
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| That M4 again! on 17:58 - Dec 31 with 1119 views | Jackfath |
| That M4 again! on 17:49 - Dec 31 by exiledclaseboy |
The roads in South Wales and across much of the UK weren’t designed to cater for the volume of traffic currently using them. Simple. The future will see more and more efforts to reduce the number of cars on the roads. |
Price the lower classes out of travelling on motorways and force them back onto A roads and market towns thus rejuvenating them. Everyone's a winner. | |
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| That M4 again! on 18:00 - Dec 31 with 1116 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| That M4 again! on 17:49 - Dec 31 by exiledclaseboy |
The roads in South Wales and across much of the UK weren’t designed to cater for the volume of traffic currently using them. Simple. The future will see more and more efforts to reduce the number of cars on the roads. |
They certainly weren't and in particular, the massive increase in lorries. If only we could get a substantial amount of freight back on to the railways. Alas it won't happen because of the cost of upgrading the infrastructure to accommodate it.
Meanwhile we're driving among these juggernauts which are damaging the road surface at an alarming rate and In an accident we haven't got a prayer.
That's on top of the increase in cars. |  |
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| That M4 again! on 18:01 - Dec 31 with 1114 views | Flashberryjack |
| That M4 again! on 17:49 - Dec 31 by exiledclaseboy |
The roads in South Wales and across much of the UK weren’t designed to cater for the volume of traffic currently using them. Simple. The future will see more and more efforts to reduce the number of cars on the roads. |
By pricing the ordinary person off the road, probably. | |
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| That M4 again! on 18:04 - Dec 31 with 1108 views | exiledclaseboy |
| That M4 again! on 18:01 - Dec 31 by Flashberryjack |
By pricing the ordinary person off the road, probably. |
That’s usually the way it goes yeah. [Post edited 31 Dec 2019 18:05]
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| That M4 again! on 18:19 - Dec 31 with 1071 views | jack2jack |
| That M4 again! on 18:16 - Dec 31 by Jackfath |
Price them out of it. Tolls on roads. |
Won't that slow the traffic down? | | | |
| That M4 again! on 18:25 - Dec 31 with 1055 views | Neath_Jack |
| That M4 again! on 18:16 - Dec 31 by Jackfath |
Price them out of it. Tolls on roads. |
We could have Rebecca Riots again, only this time called Jackfath Ructions. |  |
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| That M4 again! on 18:32 - Dec 31 with 1038 views | Jackfath |
| That M4 again! on 18:19 - Dec 31 by jack2jack |
Won't that slow the traffic down? |
Not if you pay for the toll online. Cameras pick up those that haven't paid and they get fined massively for being cocks. | |
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| That M4 again! on 19:28 - Dec 31 with 1003 views | Catullus |
| That M4 again! on 20:47 - Dec 30 by jack2jack |
Some fair points there, but just thinking about it, the new end of restriction signs are not far from the Llandarcy turn off, I reckon folk are flooring it to make up for lost time, and that, I think is making an already bad situation worse, I do believe they will at some point extend the average speed cameras, probably sooner rather than later. |
Maybe there's a middle of the road, so to speak, solution.
Instead of reducing to 50, reduce to 60. Still put up the average speed cameras though. I reckon they should still change the road layout to make it not just safer but easier too.
2 slip lanes off a motorway is fine but does anyone think 2 onto a motorway is a bad thing? I have seen so many near misses because people 'undertake' and then there's the numpties that hurtle up the crawler lane at J45. | |
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