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Hillsborough retrial 15:06 - Jun 25 with 2351 viewsDarran

Will it ever end? 🤷🏼‍♂️

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/25/hillsborough-police-chief-ducken

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Hillsborough retrial on 15:45 - Jun 25 with 2317 viewsdickythorpe

Let's have a Dai Morris retrial.
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Hillsborough retrial on 16:20 - Jun 25 with 2290 viewsDarran

Hillsborough retrial on 15:45 - Jun 25 by dickythorpe

Let's have a Dai Morris retrial.


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Hillsborough retrial on 18:21 - Jun 25 with 2192 viewswaynekerr55

Why was Duckenfield let off in the first place?

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Hillsborough retrial on 18:25 - Jun 25 with 2185 viewsbuilthjack

Hillsborough retrial on 16:20 - Jun 25 by Darran

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I played rugby against Rhigos back in the mid eighties. Dai was well in his forties, but was the best player on the pitch, and amongst the very best drinkers after. A gentleman.

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Hillsborough retrial on 20:33 - Jun 25 with 2088 viewsjack2jack

Why is it so hard, to get a conclusion to this matter, it needs sorting once and for all.
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Hillsborough retrial on 23:37 - Jun 25 with 2002 viewsCroftyjack

Hillsborough retrial on 16:20 - Jun 25 by Darran

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Looks like iolo Williams
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Hillsborough retrial on 09:14 - Jun 26 with 1911 viewsdickythorpe

Hillsborough retrial on 20:33 - Jun 25 by jack2jack

Why is it so hard, to get a conclusion to this matter, it needs sorting once and for all.


9/11 got sorted quicker than this!
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Hillsborough retrial on 14:16 - Jun 26 with 1826 viewsJacket

It's a fine line between doggedly seeking justice and torturing yourself for thirty years, reliving the tragedy over and over.
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Hillsborough retrial on 17:44 - Jun 26 with 1790 viewstaffpunk

Hillsborough retrial on 14:16 - Jun 26 by Jacket

It's a fine line between doggedly seeking justice and torturing yourself for thirty years, reliving the tragedy over and over.


The Police and Liverpool fans who turned up without tickets are equally to blame, quite simple really.
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Hillsborough retrial on 17:48 - Jun 26 with 1774 viewsFireboy2

Hillsborough retrial on 17:44 - Jun 26 by taffpunk

The Police and Liverpool fans who turned up without tickets are equally to blame, quite simple really.
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This ^
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Hillsborough retrial on 21:45 - Jun 26 with 1690 viewsDafyddHuw

Hillsborough retrial on 14:16 - Jun 26 by Jacket

It's a fine line between doggedly seeking justice and torturing yourself for thirty years, reliving the tragedy over and over.


Sounds like the Trust, about 26 years from now
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Hillsborough retrial on 21:54 - Jun 26 with 1668 viewsNotLoyal

Hillsborough retrial on 18:21 - Jun 25 by waynekerr55

Why was Duckenfield let off in the first place?


He wasn't found guilty. That's the key mate 👍

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Hillsborough retrial on 21:56 - Jun 26 with 1666 viewswaynekerr55

Hillsborough retrial on 21:54 - Jun 26 by NotLoyal

He wasn't found guilty. That's the key mate 👍


I know, but what technicality did he get off on?

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Hillsborough retrial on 22:00 - Jun 26 with 1663 viewsNotLoyal

Hillsborough retrial on 21:56 - Jun 26 by waynekerr55

I know, but what technicality did he get off on?


I think ...
The jury failed to reach a decision.
TBH he is fücked, they won't stop until he's jailed either criminally or convicted in a civil court.

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Hillsborough retrial on 22:23 - Jun 26 with 1650 viewsHumpty

Hillsborough retrial on 17:44 - Jun 26 by taffpunk

The Police and Liverpool fans who turned up without tickets are equally to blame, quite simple really.
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The Taylor report and subsequent inquiries came to the conclusion that ticketless Liverpool fans were not responsible for the crush.

There were not too many fans on the Leppings Lane terrace, there were two many fans in two sections of it because police opened the gates and did not control entry.
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Hillsborough retrial on 07:46 - Jun 27 with 1563 viewstaffpunk

Hillsborough retrial on 22:23 - Jun 26 by Humpty

The Taylor report and subsequent inquiries came to the conclusion that ticketless Liverpool fans were not responsible for the crush.

There were not too many fans on the Leppings Lane terrace, there were two many fans in two sections of it because police opened the gates and did not control entry.


If ticketless Liverpool fans had stayed away from the ground, then the tragedy wouldn't have happened. It's all extremely sad, but those supporters have to accept some responsibility for the deaths of their fellow fans.

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Hillsborough retrial on 11:38 - Jun 27 with 1525 views1983

Hillsborough retrial on 07:46 - Jun 27 by taffpunk

If ticketless Liverpool fans had stayed away from the ground, then the tragedy wouldn't have happened. It's all extremely sad, but those supporters have to accept some responsibility for the deaths of their fellow fans.


This

Liverpool fans were renown for bullying their way into grounds in the 1980's here & in Europe, they knew that the police were losing control and then ceased the moment any other match commander would have seen what was coming up and dealt with it accordingly like its been said 50/50 ironically a lot of the Liverpool fans who were killed were the ones down the front who got in early with tickets.


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Hillsborough retrial on 12:54 - Jun 27 with 1501 viewsNeath_Jack

Hillsborough retrial on 07:46 - Jun 27 by taffpunk

If ticketless Liverpool fans had stayed away from the ground, then the tragedy wouldn't have happened. It's all extremely sad, but those supporters have to accept some responsibility for the deaths of their fellow fans.


How many ticketless fans were there? Actual figures now, not tabloid numbers.

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Hillsborough retrial on 17:30 - Jun 27 with 1443 viewstaffpunk

Hillsborough retrial on 12:54 - Jun 27 by Neath_Jack

How many ticketless fans were there? Actual figures now, not tabloid numbers.


I would think it would be near impossible to work out. None of the Liverpool fans are going to admit to gaining entry without a ticket are they? It doesn't matter if it was 200, 500 or as I would suspect nearer a thousand, possibly more, those people are as guilty as the police imo.
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Hillsborough retrial on 17:39 - Jun 27 with 1432 viewsHumpty

Hillsborough retrial on 17:30 - Jun 27 by taffpunk

I would think it would be near impossible to work out. None of the Liverpool fans are going to admit to gaining entry without a ticket are they? It doesn't matter if it was 200, 500 or as I would suspect nearer a thousand, possibly more, those people are as guilty as the police imo.
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The Leppings Lane terrace was not overcrowded.

Every inquiry has blamed the police, not supporters.

Why do you want to believe otherwise?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-35473732
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Hillsborough retrial on 18:55 - Jun 27 with 1391 viewsNeath_Jack

Hillsborough retrial on 17:30 - Jun 27 by taffpunk

I would think it would be near impossible to work out. None of the Liverpool fans are going to admit to gaining entry without a ticket are they? It doesn't matter if it was 200, 500 or as I would suspect nearer a thousand, possibly more, those people are as guilty as the police imo.
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So you're saying ticketless fans should share the blame, but you have no idea how many were there? I always had you down as a sensible one. You have no factual evidence of ticketless fans, but you're going to blame them anyway, f*cking scousers and all that eh.

The fans were cleared of all blame. That could have been you, me, or our children.
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Hillsborough retrial on 19:03 - Jun 27 with 1386 viewsLeonWasGod

Hillsborough retrial on 17:39 - Jun 27 by Humpty

The Leppings Lane terrace was not overcrowded.

Every inquiry has blamed the police, not supporters.

Why do you want to believe otherwise?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-35473732


Despite being the most rigorously investigated football tragedy, this myth still perpetuates. Sure, Liverpool fans had a reputation at that time, and previous, but as you say they’ve been repeatedly cleared. Why people can’t accept this after all this time is very odd.
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Hillsborough retrial (n/t) on 19:15 - Jun 27 with 1380 viewsHumpty

Hillsborough retrial on 19:03 - Jun 27 by LeonWasGod

Despite being the most rigorously investigated football tragedy, this myth still perpetuates. Sure, Liverpool fans had a reputation at that time, and previous, but as you say they’ve been repeatedly cleared. Why people can’t accept this after all this time is very odd.


Usually it's pretty clear why.

It's because the don't like the club and /or its fans.

I don't know Taff's motivation for his beliefs.
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