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An outrage we can all agree on.... 12:19 - Jun 14 with 5444 viewsPhildo

Top 50 Michael Caine films - Zulu only makes 15th place....

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jun/14/michael-caine-best-films-ranked

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 19:33 - Jun 14 with 1735 viewsoldmisery

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 20:27 - Jun 14 with 1689 viewsEsox_Lucius

Sleuth & Dressed To Kill are both way too low in that list.

The grass is always greener.

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 20:51 - Jun 14 with 1667 viewsqprxtc

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 02:09 - Jun 15 with 1622 viewsBoston

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 12:44 - Jun 14 by BrianMcCarthy

Remember him smugly saying on Wogan once that to maintain a high standard of living you have to make a crap standard of film. Fine, but the punters are dishing out dosh to see you, kid.

Shame, as he's a good actor when he can be bothered do the tricky stuff like picking a good script, attempting an accent or moving around the set.

Never really got the draw of Zulu, but liked him in Get Carter, Alfie and especially Last Orders which is a cracking little film.


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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 04:20 - Jun 15 with 1609 viewstimcocking

The Man Who Would Be King is awesome. Zulu, likewise.
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 06:57 - Jun 15 with 1600 viewsHantsR

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 18:44 - Jun 14 by colinallcars

In Zulu, he didn't really say “ don't throw those bloody spears at me “ did he ?


Don't think so, but there was that memorable moment when he seemed to know the name of one poor individual when he shouted, "Fire at Will"
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 07:09 - Jun 15 with 1591 viewstimcocking

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 06:57 - Jun 15 by HantsR

Don't think so, but there was that memorable moment when he seemed to know the name of one poor individual when he shouted, "Fire at Will"


The opening...doesn't he throw the Indian fella out of a moving train for having the audacity to say hello to him? They certainly don't make them like that anymore.

My God, films like that make your average Hollywood 'blockbuster' seem so, so sh!t. X Men, sweet Jesus.
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 07:57 - Jun 15 with 1584 viewscolinallcars

I liked the bit in Funeral In Berlin when he was sat in a cafe without ordering. The waiter. eventually said “ Mein Herr bitte ?” To which Caine replied “ no, I'll have a pint of lager “
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 09:21 - Jun 15 with 1546 viewsEsox_Lucius

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 07:09 - Jun 15 by timcocking

The opening...doesn't he throw the Indian fella out of a moving train for having the audacity to say hello to him? They certainly don't make them like that anymore.

My God, films like that make your average Hollywood 'blockbuster' seem so, so sh!t. X Men, sweet Jesus.


Watch Dr Strange. First thoughts would probably be "Oh, another Marvel spin off" but this is very different and eminently watchable. In the genre, I would say this is right up there.

The grass is always greener.

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 11:00 - Jun 15 with 1519 viewsHantsR

His most famous quote was in Educating Rita

Not many people know that
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 11:02 - Jun 15 with 1518 viewsHantsR

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 07:09 - Jun 15 by timcocking

The opening...doesn't he throw the Indian fella out of a moving train for having the audacity to say hello to him? They certainly don't make them like that anymore.

My God, films like that make your average Hollywood 'blockbuster' seem so, so sh!t. X Men, sweet Jesus.


That was in Kipling's Man who would be King - the gentleman in question started tucking into a huge melon - good enough reason in my book for defenestration
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 11:08 - Jun 15 with 1509 viewsozexile

I really liked his film "Youth" from a couple of years ago. Probably wouldn't sit through it again but it felt like a bit of a swansong from him.
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 15:17 - Jun 15 with 1460 viewsCiderwithRsie

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 13:45 - Jun 14 by TacticalR

What's wrong with Get Carter? It's been a while since I saw it, but as far as I can remember it's a well made, atmospheric movie.

As for Zulu unfortunately due to political correctness going to Africa and shooting the natives has become as unacceptable as shooting wildlife.


My recollection of Zulu (not seen it for a few years) is that the beginning is pretty sympathetic to the Zulu cause. The British soldiers aren't portrayed as fighting in a heroic cause, more as a bunch of blokes who just find themselves fighting for their lives in a situation outside their control.

The ending, with the implication of mutual respect is a far cry from the way most early westerns portrayed native Americans.

(IIRC the current Zulu ceremonial king said something along these lines about the film not so long ago.)
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 15:36 - Jun 15 with 1454 viewsCiderwithRsie

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 16:32 - Jun 14 by LazyFan

What's missed in that film is that the Zulu's are an honourable warrior army.

Whereas the British are more elitist than the Zulu's (they still had an elite too) and for disrespectful. They also try and make injured men do hard labour BEFORE the officers only then forced to do it and get stuck into this at the end.

And shows how ruthless the British army was and cared little for its own soldiers. All they had to do was retreat and let them burn the church and the retake it. The net result would have been lives saved on both sides, as the church got destroyed anyway.

A great expose of imperial arrogance and folly.

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I wouldn't rely on the film for a critique of the British military of the day. Two fairly well-known inaccuracies:

- the 24th Foot later became the South Wales Borderers, but at the time they were the 2nd Warwickshire and by no means all Welsh - of the 7 guys who got VCs one was from Glos, another from Bristol and one from Chiswick. I think only two were definitively Welsh.

- The prominent character Henry Hook is portrayed as a malingerer and drinker who becomes a hero by accident; apparently he was a teetotaller and model soldier. Amazingly his daughters were still alive when the film was made and walked out of the premiere in protest
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 15:38 - Jun 15 with 1454 viewsflynnbo

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 12:44 - Jun 14 by BrianMcCarthy

Remember him smugly saying on Wogan once that to maintain a high standard of living you have to make a crap standard of film. Fine, but the punters are dishing out dosh to see you, kid.

Shame, as he's a good actor when he can be bothered do the tricky stuff like picking a good script, attempting an accent or moving around the set.

Never really got the draw of Zulu, but liked him in Get Carter, Alfie and especially Last Orders which is a cracking little film.


Brian, was "Last Orders" the film where he and a fellow war hero were persecuted by a gang of kids on a housing estate?
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 16:41 - Jun 15 with 1434 viewsBrianMcCarthy

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 15:38 - Jun 15 by flynnbo

Brian, was "Last Orders" the film where he and a fellow war hero were persecuted by a gang of kids on a housing estate?


No, though that one rings a bell.

'Last Orders' starred Caine, Helen Mirren, Bob Hoskins, the brilliant Tom Courtenay, Ray Winstone and David Hemmings. In it, Caine's character dies and the rest bring his ashes to Margate as per his request. I'm really bad at remembering details, but as I remember it there's good use of flashbacks and dialogue to bring the story of the group out. And, as you'd expect with that cast, the acting is excellent, convincing and understated.

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 17:31 - Jun 15 with 1415 viewsTacticalR

An outrage we can all agree on.... on 15:38 - Jun 15 by flynnbo

Brian, was "Last Orders" the film where he and a fellow war hero were persecuted by a gang of kids on a housing estate?


That was Harry Brown. A poor man's Death Wish and a load of old tosh. He should stick to riding around on bumblebees.

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 20:26 - Jun 15 with 1355 viewsPunteR

I liked him in Children of Men, good film that.

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 21:53 - Jun 15 with 1329 viewsBlackCrowe

back in the day, i liked Blame It On Rio (caine was good) but it all feels wrong these days.

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 12:41 - Jun 16 with 1252 viewscolinallcars

Anyone know his first screen appearance ? I'd swear he played a soldier on guard in The Day The Earth Caught Fire, his only line was “ sorry sir, I can't let you through “
I've been told this is incorrect.
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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 12:47 - Jun 16 with 1251 viewsPommyhoop

God's Holy Trousers!!
At least they got the winner correct.

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An outrage we can all agree on.... on 13:48 - Jun 16 with 1229 viewsDannyPaddox



A few years ago for sale on eBay was the actual laughing sailor automaton from Sleuth. Methinks it would look very at home in the Shepherd & Flock.
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