| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? 10:13 - Aug 27 with 7914 views | trampie |
Without scouring record books, I just looked at 4 'smaller' teams that sprung to mind, so Swans did well but not absolutely brilliant.
Watford had 6 years in the top flight at one time and finished second in the league and reached the FA Cup final as well as numerous semi's and quarters in that timeframe.
Wigan had 8 years in the top flight in very recent times and won the FA Cup and made the final of the League Cup.
Bolton had 11 years in the top flight in recent times and made the League cup final.
Coventry went 34 years in the top flight and won the FA Cup. |  |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:28 - Aug 28 with 956 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:19 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
Well I know it’s not 60 that’s for sure. |
You can't count so you would not know. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 12:32]
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:31 - Aug 28 with 948 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:28 - Aug 28 by trampie |
You can't count so you would not know. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 12:32]
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I would know you are wrong on every level.
Which takes some doing. |  |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:34 - Aug 28 with 936 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:31 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
I would know you are wrong on every level.
Which takes some doing. |
You can't count so you have no way of knowing what is right and what's is wrong if it involves counting. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:40 - Aug 28 with 927 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:34 - Aug 28 by trampie |
You can't count so you have no way of knowing what is right and what's is wrong if it involves counting. |
Neither can you which makes us scuppered in regards to that.
So that takes us back to your original point, to which we all seem to agree - you are wrong.
Ah. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:46 - Aug 28 with 919 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:40 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
Neither can you which makes us scuppered in regards to that.
So that takes us back to your original point, to which we all seem to agree - you are wrong.
Ah. |
You can't count as has been proved and Forest have had more seasons outside the top tier than inside the top tier and Forest won very few trophies prior to Brian Clough. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:49 - Aug 28 with 916 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:46 - Aug 28 by trampie |
You can't count as has been proved and Forest have had more seasons outside the top tier than inside the top tier and Forest won very few trophies prior to Brian Clough. |
You can’t count so how would you know?
Forest have spent the majority of their history in the top two tiers of English football.
Big club. As I taught you. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 12:49]
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:57 - Aug 28 with 902 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:49 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
You can’t count so how would you know?
Forest have spent the majority of their history in the top two tiers of English football.
Big club. As I taught you. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 12:49]
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There was only two tiers for ex amount of those years as well.
The bottom line is they have spent most of their history outside the top division. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:02 - Aug 28 with 897 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 12:57 - Aug 28 by trampie |
There was only two tiers for ex amount of those years as well.
The bottom line is they have spent most of their history outside the top division. |
And the ‘even bottomer’ line is they have spent the majority of their lives in the top 2 tiers of English football.
Big club as I said they were. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 13:11]
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:13 - Aug 28 with 882 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:02 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
And the ‘even bottomer’ line is they have spent the majority of their lives in the top 2 tiers of English football.
Big club as I said they were. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 13:11]
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So you think Cardiff City are a big club as well do you ?, they would have spent most of their history in the top two divisions as well. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:23 - Aug 28 with 867 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:13 - Aug 28 by trampie |
So you think Cardiff City are a big club as well do you ?, they would have spent most of their history in the top two divisions as well. |
They are set up to be yes. Much more than we were/are.
Which would mean should they emulate our achievements they won’t be as impressive.
Same goes for Forest, they were set for success. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:25 - Aug 28 with 860 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:23 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
They are set up to be yes. Much more than we were/are.
Which would mean should they emulate our achievements they won’t be as impressive.
Same goes for Forest, they were set for success. |
Are Cardiff a big club or not ? | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:27 - Aug 28 with 853 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:25 - Aug 28 by trampie |
Are Cardiff a big club or not ? |
I just answered that in very context of the thread you created. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:41 - Aug 28 with 831 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:27 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
I just answered that in very context of the thread you created. |
You haven't answered it in a direct manner, you obviously think Cardiff are a big club because of their historical league positions.
You have made it clear that if a team spends most of its history in the top two tiers you see them as a big team.
As well as Cardiff based on your criteria no doubt you see Preston, Huddersfield and Burnley as 'big clubs' as well. [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 13:46]
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:41 - Aug 28 with 831 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:23 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
They are set up to be yes. Much more than we were/are.
Which would mean should they emulate our achievements they won’t be as impressive.
Same goes for Forest, they were set for success. |
Set up to be..
Explain? |  | | |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:48 - Aug 28 with 816 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:41 - Aug 28 by 34dfgdf54 |
Set up to be..
Explain? |
Bigger ground, attractive City, more palatable for sponsors and investors, better geographical location, excellent catchment area. The list is rather extensive. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 15:30 - Aug 28 with 772 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 13:41 - Aug 28 by 34dfgdf54 |
Set up to be..
Explain? |
His list of big clubs is huge.  | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 20:58 - Aug 28 with 718 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 15:30 - Aug 28 by trampie |
His list of big clubs is huge. |
... and correct. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 21:41 - Aug 28 with 689 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 20:58 - Aug 28 by E20Jack |
... and correct. |
You have never been correct about anything. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 01:47 - Aug 29 with 641 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 21:41 - Aug 28 by trampie |
You have never been correct about anything. |
I am right that you are wrong, so that's something at least. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 02:56 - Aug 29 with 621 views | jacksfullaces |
phenomenal achievement.
purely subjective, only point of reference being the time I have watched them.
you are only as good as your last game, so more interested in the future now, the memories will be the stuff to share with the grand kids. (hopefully)
time to redefine what we see as success now I would think, but will be a fun journey, I have no doubt.
still want #jenkinsout though, the path he has chosen for us/decisions from the sale onwards is not one I can endorse, will continue to hope for some magical moments on the pitch though.
I think that is hope rather than expectation though as things currently stand. |  | | |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 05:37 - Aug 29 with 598 views | trampie |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 01:47 - Aug 29 by E20Jack |
I am right that you are wrong, so that's something at least. |
You get everything wrong and in spectacular fashion. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 05:49 - Aug 29 with 596 views | E20Jack |
| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 05:37 - Aug 29 by trampie |
You get everything wrong and in spectacular fashion. |
Wrong. | |
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| How great an achievement was Swans 7 years in the top flight ? on 06:47 - Aug 29 with 582 views | trampie |
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