| Well that's it then. 23:09 - Aug 31 with 10292 views | Garyjack |
£34m surplus in transfer fees, and half of you have creamed your knickers! 
I'm out. xxx |  | | |  |
| Well that's it then. on 00:38 - Sep 1 with 1659 views | r0ckin |
| Well that's it then. on 00:36 - Sep 1 by bluenile |
27billion...........and 12 billion????................feck my eyes, we're richer than I thought!! |
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| Well that's it then. on 00:41 - Sep 1 with 1654 views | AnotherJohn |
Sanches is a major coup, albeit a loan, but overall this was a gambler's window. Can a guy whose goals have dried up help Tammy to replace the goals that came from Llorente and Sigurdsson? And what happens if we have more injuries in defence? I think we missed the opportunity to strengthen and went for profit instead. As the cynics predicted, the Gylfi money wasn't reinvested. |  | | |
| Well that's it then. on 00:42 - Sep 1 with 1651 views | r0ckin |
| Well that's it then. on 00:41 - Sep 1 by AnotherJohn |
Sanches is a major coup, albeit a loan, but overall this was a gambler's window. Can a guy whose goals have dried up help Tammy to replace the goals that came from Llorente and Sigurdsson? And what happens if we have more injuries in defence? I think we missed the opportunity to strengthen and went for profit instead. As the cynics predicted, the Gylfi money wasn't reinvested. |
That's if you're talking in terms of a straight swap. For us to thrive we have to reevaluate how we play. | |
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| Well that's it then. on 00:49 - Sep 1 with 1634 views | keeptrundlingon |
| Well that's it then. on 00:01 - Sep 1 by r0ckin |
That's such a pessimistic and frankly ludicrous way of looking at it.
27m or so can be reinvested in other areas - you can't measure things through the prism of
40m in 40m out.
That's ridiculous. Many fans would love to see us be profligate and get into the crap. Swansea has been at its most successful when it has been prudent and reinvested money in areas outside of just the playing staff.
People are being cynical because of xenophobia in my eyes here, they can't accept we're not a poxy little club anymore and that we have to run things like a business and we need to increase our revenue streams. We cannot sustain huge wage bills and invest heavily with a stadium fit for the championship.
Short-termism is what cost us decades ago, we have to look to the future. I happen to disagree with the signing of Bony, I believe we should be spending 12m on players for the future not the past but I have no issue in having a net gain in transfers. [Post edited 1 Sep 2017 0:39]
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You are entitled to your opinion but just a few points if I may.
1) there's nothing ludicrous about simply having a different opinion of where the surplus should be spent. Personally I want to see more poured into the playing staff. If you buy the right players you make big money from them - rinse and repeat. Eventually you have a much better squad. There is also nothing pessimistic about feeling gutted that the money isn't invested in this manner. The new TV deal has meant that other premier league clubs are spending more and in a bit concerned the quality in their squads will gradually start outstripping the quality in ours.
2) I see very little link between wages and the championship class (as you put it) stadium. Stadiums contribute very little in terms of overall revenue. The main benefit in improving the stadium is allowing more fans to attend and great more of a hostile atmosphere for visiting teams.
Please don't confuse a different approach to things as having a short term viewpoint. I think we have invested a lot in the club infrastructure in recent years to the detriment of the squad and it is about time we invested a little more in the team. For instance whilst I love the quality of these loanees isn't there an arguement that they are just players which will do a job for a year, develop as better players for their parent clubs and cost us a few million in loan fees. We will still need to replace them in one years time. Wouldn't it be better to have spent the cash on talented hungry young players who we do not NEED to replace in a year and who will increase in value and make us even more money in the long run.
Just my 2 cents is all | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 00:49 - Sep 1 with 1633 views | TheResurrection |
| Well that's it then. on 00:41 - Sep 1 by AnotherJohn |
Sanches is a major coup, albeit a loan, but overall this was a gambler's window. Can a guy whose goals have dried up help Tammy to replace the goals that came from Llorente and Sigurdsson? And what happens if we have more injuries in defence? I think we missed the opportunity to strengthen and went for profit instead. As the cynics predicted, the Gylfi money wasn't reinvested. |
Yes it was, where we could.
The deal wasn't done quick enough with Siggy and that's a big complaint but don't bore us all with profit nonsense when you can't grasp the simple basics.
And if I hear one more time about replacing the borefest goals of Cheech and Chong I'm going to puke.
We'll be on twice as many team goals by Christmas than we were last one.
Grow up. |  |
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| Well that's it then. on 00:50 - Sep 1 with 1627 views | TNT |
Whether today did or did not bring what you wanted, it's better than watching Cusack trying to cobble together a team.
And at the end of the day... it's night. | |
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| Well that's it then. on 00:59 - Sep 1 with 1609 views | TheResurrection |
| Well that's it then. on 00:49 - Sep 1 by keeptrundlingon |
You are entitled to your opinion but just a few points if I may.
1) there's nothing ludicrous about simply having a different opinion of where the surplus should be spent. Personally I want to see more poured into the playing staff. If you buy the right players you make big money from them - rinse and repeat. Eventually you have a much better squad. There is also nothing pessimistic about feeling gutted that the money isn't invested in this manner. The new TV deal has meant that other premier league clubs are spending more and in a bit concerned the quality in their squads will gradually start outstripping the quality in ours.
2) I see very little link between wages and the championship class (as you put it) stadium. Stadiums contribute very little in terms of overall revenue. The main benefit in improving the stadium is allowing more fans to attend and great more of a hostile atmosphere for visiting teams.
Please don't confuse a different approach to things as having a short term viewpoint. I think we have invested a lot in the club infrastructure in recent years to the detriment of the squad and it is about time we invested a little more in the team. For instance whilst I love the quality of these loanees isn't there an arguement that they are just players which will do a job for a year, develop as better players for their parent clubs and cost us a few million in loan fees. We will still need to replace them in one years time. Wouldn't it be better to have spent the cash on talented hungry young players who we do not NEED to replace in a year and who will increase in value and make us even more money in the long run.
Just my 2 cents is all |
We take every season as it comes. You may not realise but it's not easy bringing top talent to Swansea. You can't just wave a magic wand and then it's us who are snapping up these wonder kids you talk of.
Ours is to bat clever and keep a footballing identity on the pitch. Do right by Tammy and Sanches and these loan deals should and could become a regular feature for us, not something to be apprehensive about, something to encourage and look forward to.
We've also got a bit of money behind us which should be applauded. Chucking money at bad value will take us ultimately in one direction.
This team has all the makings of a real belter with genuine attacking power and a solid shape and defence.
You won't be moaning as the season wears on, you'll see it out on the pitch.
Siggy and Llorente had to go, they were slow, tedious and boring.
Welcome to the old Swans. | |
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| Well that's it then. on 00:59 - Sep 1 with 1607 views | r0ckin |
| Well that's it then. on 00:49 - Sep 1 by keeptrundlingon |
You are entitled to your opinion but just a few points if I may.
1) there's nothing ludicrous about simply having a different opinion of where the surplus should be spent. Personally I want to see more poured into the playing staff. If you buy the right players you make big money from them - rinse and repeat. Eventually you have a much better squad. There is also nothing pessimistic about feeling gutted that the money isn't invested in this manner. The new TV deal has meant that other premier league clubs are spending more and in a bit concerned the quality in their squads will gradually start outstripping the quality in ours.
2) I see very little link between wages and the championship class (as you put it) stadium. Stadiums contribute very little in terms of overall revenue. The main benefit in improving the stadium is allowing more fans to attend and great more of a hostile atmosphere for visiting teams.
Please don't confuse a different approach to things as having a short term viewpoint. I think we have invested a lot in the club infrastructure in recent years to the detriment of the squad and it is about time we invested a little more in the team. For instance whilst I love the quality of these loanees isn't there an arguement that they are just players which will do a job for a year, develop as better players for their parent clubs and cost us a few million in loan fees. We will still need to replace them in one years time. Wouldn't it be better to have spent the cash on talented hungry young players who we do not NEED to replace in a year and who will increase in value and make us even more money in the long run.
Just my 2 cents is all |
Fair enough, I didn't mean to disrespect my post was more a reaction to the constant negativity as I see it. Your response is perfectly reasonable although I still disagree strongly.
I don't see expansion of the stadium just through the prism of larger fanbase for atmosphere etc. For me it represents where a club is heading, if we had a 30k min stadium it would ATTRACT the type of player you're looking for. It to me is essential for the club to continue to grow, it's not sustainable to live off tv revenue, you have to improve income streams that are within our overall control imo. | |
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| Well that's it then. on 01:10 - Sep 1 with 1582 views | keeptrundlingon |
| Well that's it then. on 00:59 - Sep 1 by TheResurrection |
We take every season as it comes. You may not realise but it's not easy bringing top talent to Swansea. You can't just wave a magic wand and then it's us who are snapping up these wonder kids you talk of.
Ours is to bat clever and keep a footballing identity on the pitch. Do right by Tammy and Sanches and these loan deals should and could become a regular feature for us, not something to be apprehensive about, something to encourage and look forward to.
We've also got a bit of money behind us which should be applauded. Chucking money at bad value will take us ultimately in one direction.
This team has all the makings of a real belter with genuine attacking power and a solid shape and defence.
You won't be moaning as the season wears on, you'll see it out on the pitch.
Siggy and Llorente had to go, they were slow, tedious and boring.
Welcome to the old Swans. |
I'm. It saying wonder kids I'm saying talent hungry younger players. I mean shit if we can get £12m for a 32 year old striker then in this market we can make money by shrewd investments. I take your point about maybe the ability of the swans to attract talented younger players at reasonable prices though.
I'm not advocating we throw money at bad value I'm just advocating more investment in the playing staff.
I'd just like to clarify I'm not pessimistic about the season, I just think we have missed a trick by not investing more in the playing staff. I expect as a minimum a lower mid table finish but don't expect us to be in a relegation dog fight.
I diasagree that Siggy was slow, tedious and boring lol. | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 01:16 - Sep 1 with 1576 views | keeptrundlingon |
| Well that's it then. on 00:59 - Sep 1 by r0ckin |
Fair enough, I didn't mean to disrespect my post was more a reaction to the constant negativity as I see it. Your response is perfectly reasonable although I still disagree strongly.
I don't see expansion of the stadium just through the prism of larger fanbase for atmosphere etc. For me it represents where a club is heading, if we had a 30k min stadium it would ATTRACT the type of player you're looking for. It to me is essential for the club to continue to grow, it's not sustainable to live off tv revenue, you have to improve income streams that are within our overall control imo. |
I'll have to agree to disagree mate. I do want a bigger stadium and a more hostile atmosphere for away teams. I don't think it would have a bearing on the players we could attract though, unless you are talking 50k+ capacity. I think players in general care about wages and playing at the highest level possible. That's why the best ones want to go to the top teams, they pay the best and play in the champions league.
I'm all for developing additional revenue streams but I think the gain in revenue from an expanded stadium is minimal. The additional revenue would certainly take years to make back the money spent on the expansion.
Right I'm knackered so goodnight all. | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 07:27 - Sep 1 with 1454 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Well that's it then. on 00:59 - Sep 1 by r0ckin |
Fair enough, I didn't mean to disrespect my post was more a reaction to the constant negativity as I see it. Your response is perfectly reasonable although I still disagree strongly.
I don't see expansion of the stadium just through the prism of larger fanbase for atmosphere etc. For me it represents where a club is heading, if we had a 30k min stadium it would ATTRACT the type of player you're looking for. It to me is essential for the club to continue to grow, it's not sustainable to live off tv revenue, you have to improve income streams that are within our overall control imo. |
You called the stadium "championship class" but I'm afraid it's barely that. This season there are 20 bigger stadiums in the championship than the Liberty.
I personally feel that if we added an extra 8-10,000 seats to the stadium and really worked hard at attracting (and keeping) fans, it will prove to be an excellent decision if/when we are eventually relegated. There's no reason, imo, that we should go back to the championship after all these years in the PL and not be one of the big boys in terms of ground size. At the moment, it wouldn't be the case. |  | | |
| Well that's it then. on 07:30 - Sep 1 with 1450 views | Dr_Winston |
| Well that's it then. on 07:27 - Sep 1 by AngelRangelQS |
You called the stadium "championship class" but I'm afraid it's barely that. This season there are 20 bigger stadiums in the championship than the Liberty.
I personally feel that if we added an extra 8-10,000 seats to the stadium and really worked hard at attracting (and keeping) fans, it will prove to be an excellent decision if/when we are eventually relegated. There's no reason, imo, that we should go back to the championship after all these years in the PL and not be one of the big boys in terms of ground size. At the moment, it wouldn't be the case. |
The lack of stadium expansion and waste of six years of fanbase growth opportunity is one of the biggest crimes of the previous ownership. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Well that's it then. on 08:57 - Sep 1 with 1387 views | jackforever |
| Well that's it then. on 07:27 - Sep 1 by AngelRangelQS |
You called the stadium "championship class" but I'm afraid it's barely that. This season there are 20 bigger stadiums in the championship than the Liberty.
I personally feel that if we added an extra 8-10,000 seats to the stadium and really worked hard at attracting (and keeping) fans, it will prove to be an excellent decision if/when we are eventually relegated. There's no reason, imo, that we should go back to the championship after all these years in the PL and not be one of the big boys in terms of ground size. At the moment, it wouldn't be the case. |
Few questions.
How much do you think it would cost to build 10,000 extra seats? And would you be prepared for less and less spending on the squad
What if the club has no evidence to suggest we could sell 10000 extra tickets? Based on current ticket sales, market research, current season ticket demand etc.
Many clubs in the championship and lower wished they hadn't spent big on stadium expansion, not saying it's a definite no but also don't think it's a no brainer.
Although to be fair by now the club should have a clear idea of what we are doing stadium wise. | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 09:07 - Sep 1 with 1379 views | exiledinenglandjack |
It's not just about the greater number of bums on seats, but the greater exposure to the rest of the world and more attractive to potential stadium sponsors. This leads to greater revenue which can then be reinvested into the squad. | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 10:11 - Sep 1 with 1340 views | Uxbridge |
It worries me when I agree with the Sage of Cwmdare, but he's completely right on this one.
It's been a good window. The squad and wage bill needed some serious pruning, and we've carried on the recent improvement of signing a number of players who fit the "Swansea" mould. Sad to see Glyfi and Llorente go, however once Gylfi goes and we seek to bring in a certain type of player then Llorente makes less sense. We're still short some players on the flanks but the squad is better than it was at the start of the window. That's how these things need to be judged by.
As for the finances, the figures in the OP are a bit of a nonsense (incomings are always overstated and outgoings understated when you factor in all the player/agent related costs, loan fees etc) but no doubt a decent profit was made in this window. Since when was that a bad thing? Nice to go into the January window knowing there's something there to bring players in if we need to ... past windows have been a scramble to balance the books and a bit more flexibility in that is very welcome.
Interesting times ahead. At least we now look like we have enough to compete with our peers in the division. |  |
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| Well that's it then. on 12:20 - Sep 1 with 1286 views | whiterock |
| Well that's it then. on 10:11 - Sep 1 by Uxbridge |
It worries me when I agree with the Sage of Cwmdare, but he's completely right on this one.
It's been a good window. The squad and wage bill needed some serious pruning, and we've carried on the recent improvement of signing a number of players who fit the "Swansea" mould. Sad to see Glyfi and Llorente go, however once Gylfi goes and we seek to bring in a certain type of player then Llorente makes less sense. We're still short some players on the flanks but the squad is better than it was at the start of the window. That's how these things need to be judged by.
As for the finances, the figures in the OP are a bit of a nonsense (incomings are always overstated and outgoings understated when you factor in all the player/agent related costs, loan fees etc) but no doubt a decent profit was made in this window. Since when was that a bad thing? Nice to go into the January window knowing there's something there to bring players in if we need to ... past windows have been a scramble to balance the books and a bit more flexibility in that is very welcome.
Interesting times ahead. At least we now look like we have enough to compete with our peers in the division. |
121 days and the window opens, can't wait
Seriously, I'm not a fan of the transfer window | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 12:24 - Sep 1 with 1278 views | keeptrundlingon |
| Well that's it then. on 10:11 - Sep 1 by Uxbridge |
It worries me when I agree with the Sage of Cwmdare, but he's completely right on this one.
It's been a good window. The squad and wage bill needed some serious pruning, and we've carried on the recent improvement of signing a number of players who fit the "Swansea" mould. Sad to see Glyfi and Llorente go, however once Gylfi goes and we seek to bring in a certain type of player then Llorente makes less sense. We're still short some players on the flanks but the squad is better than it was at the start of the window. That's how these things need to be judged by.
As for the finances, the figures in the OP are a bit of a nonsense (incomings are always overstated and outgoings understated when you factor in all the player/agent related costs, loan fees etc) but no doubt a decent profit was made in this window. Since when was that a bad thing? Nice to go into the January window knowing there's something there to bring players in if we need to ... past windows have been a scramble to balance the books and a bit more flexibility in that is very welcome.
Interesting times ahead. At least we now look like we have enough to compete with our peers in the division. |
I just worry that if we can't get two equally good loanees in next season then we will need to spend a fair bit on two players just to maintain the current squad standard. It's also worrying if we need to make a profit to balance the books. We get £80 mil a year in tv revenue, it seems a bit crazy to me that we can't spend a bit more on the squad. We are one of 5 premier league teams to make a profit this window and actually we made the most profit of anyone. This tells me others are spending and I would have perhaps preferred to buy our own to develop and sell on at a profit than to pay others to develop their players and end up with a hole in the squad that needs filling next season.
I'm not convinced we will sign anyone in January unless we are forced to through injuries and/or poor form.
For the record I'm not pessimistic about the season ahead and I'm looking forward to seeing Bony back and how Sanches gets on. I just can't help feel we have missed a trick this window. | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 12:29 - Sep 1 with 1268 views | clement |
| Well that's it then. on 00:14 - Sep 1 by awayjack |
Now window is over I'm going to focus on supporting team but can't work out why some fans can't accept a £30m profit on player sales, cut of £20m+ in player wages and increase in banking the extra income from PL / Sky of £20m+ Is insane way investment in our key assets, oir playing squad. In a years or so you'll work it out when the Yanks use the one-off profit to sell club again at a big profit. Technically not 'asset stripping' but If you look at our squad as assets, we've cut by £50m to make a short term profit, whilst others in Pl are investing in terms of spend on squad improvement and supporting wages. So when the Yanks flip us for huge personal gain to next buyer, let's think again about why we've sold our core asset, I.e. Net gains of £50m+ from selling players / cutting wages for short term financial profit. |
None of your figures are correct.... |  |
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| Well that's it then. on 12:39 - Sep 1 with 1234 views | Uxbridge |
| Well that's it then. on 12:24 - Sep 1 by keeptrundlingon |
I just worry that if we can't get two equally good loanees in next season then we will need to spend a fair bit on two players just to maintain the current squad standard. It's also worrying if we need to make a profit to balance the books. We get £80 mil a year in tv revenue, it seems a bit crazy to me that we can't spend a bit more on the squad. We are one of 5 premier league teams to make a profit this window and actually we made the most profit of anyone. This tells me others are spending and I would have perhaps preferred to buy our own to develop and sell on at a profit than to pay others to develop their players and end up with a hole in the squad that needs filling next season.
I'm not convinced we will sign anyone in January unless we are forced to through injuries and/or poor form.
For the record I'm not pessimistic about the season ahead and I'm looking forward to seeing Bony back and how Sanches gets on. I just can't help feel we have missed a trick this window. |
Nothing wrong with loans IMO, especially if they're for talented youngsters who we couldn't hope to attract otherwise. If we can be seen as the sort of club where such players can develop, then that can only benefit us in the long term.
We mustn't become over-reliant on them though, as you say. I wouldn't judge our reluctance to join the mentalism in the market too harshly though ... football has gone bonkers this summer, and I don't think that's a particularly good thing. Best thing is to do what we've generally done ... look to see who can add value to our squad and only pay what they're worth. Ideally we could have picked one or two more, but no point buying for the sake of it, or paying way over the odds. The mooted price for the likes of Chadli was utterly bonkers for example. | |
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| Well that's it then. on 12:51 - Sep 1 with 1209 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Well that's it then. on 08:57 - Sep 1 by jackforever |
Few questions.
How much do you think it would cost to build 10,000 extra seats? And would you be prepared for less and less spending on the squad
What if the club has no evidence to suggest we could sell 10000 extra tickets? Based on current ticket sales, market research, current season ticket demand etc.
Many clubs in the championship and lower wished they hadn't spent big on stadium expansion, not saying it's a definite no but also don't think it's a no brainer.
Although to be fair by now the club should have a clear idea of what we are doing stadium wise. |
Hi mate
1. Cost? Think I've seen £20-£25m touted before.
2. Yes, I'd be prepared for us to spend sensibly (via good scouting/loans) in order to invest in tangible assets that may benefit us in future. I'd view this in the same way as the training ground.
3. It is the club's job to sell the extra 10,000 tickets, even if this meant initially doing cheap tickets for schools/offers if ST holders bring a mate, etc. as they have done in the past. Given the catchment area, I'd imagine we should be able to do it easily. Sunderland get 35-40,000 a week? Why can't we aim for that eventually?
4. Big stadiums are for life and could help us significantly one day. E.G. if we were back in the Championship or League One, a bumper cup tie could see us make an extra £400,000 on those seats alone. Small fry right now but not so long ago that would have been huge.
Summary - I agree we need a balance but we also need to consider the future of the club should we get relegated (which we eventually will) | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 13:19 - Sep 1 with 1180 views | keeptrundlingon |
| Well that's it then. on 12:39 - Sep 1 by Uxbridge |
Nothing wrong with loans IMO, especially if they're for talented youngsters who we couldn't hope to attract otherwise. If we can be seen as the sort of club where such players can develop, then that can only benefit us in the long term.
We mustn't become over-reliant on them though, as you say. I wouldn't judge our reluctance to join the mentalism in the market too harshly though ... football has gone bonkers this summer, and I don't think that's a particularly good thing. Best thing is to do what we've generally done ... look to see who can add value to our squad and only pay what they're worth. Ideally we could have picked one or two more, but no point buying for the sake of it, or paying way over the odds. The mooted price for the likes of Chadli was utterly bonkers for example. |
I agree with you. We shouldn't pay over the odds. I have to wonder though about our scouting because we had ages while the Sigurdsson thing was pending to identify targets. If Chadli turned out to be too expensive I wanted us to be pursuing option B, option C etc. If we can't identify reasonably priced quality then our scouting needs an overhaul in my opinion. | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 13:30 - Sep 1 with 1163 views | somersetsimon |
| Well that's it then. on 08:57 - Sep 1 by jackforever |
Few questions.
How much do you think it would cost to build 10,000 extra seats? And would you be prepared for less and less spending on the squad
What if the club has no evidence to suggest we could sell 10000 extra tickets? Based on current ticket sales, market research, current season ticket demand etc.
Many clubs in the championship and lower wished they hadn't spent big on stadium expansion, not saying it's a definite no but also don't think it's a no brainer.
Although to be fair by now the club should have a clear idea of what we are doing stadium wise. |
Someone else may have a better idea on the numbers, but for example...
Across the whole season of 19 matches, we could maybe average an extra 7,000 spectators per match. Let's say the club makes £25 profit per extra seat. That's just over an extra £3.3M a season. So, if it cost £20M to build the extra seats, it would take 6 years to make the money back (assuming we stay in the Premier League). |  | | |
| Well that's it then. on 14:29 - Sep 1 with 1123 views | Benjaniswan |
I read 8.5 million euro including wages. | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 15:48 - Sep 1 with 1095 views | jackforever |
| Well that's it then. on 13:30 - Sep 1 by somersetsimon |
Someone else may have a better idea on the numbers, but for example...
Across the whole season of 19 matches, we could maybe average an extra 7,000 spectators per match. Let's say the club makes £25 profit per extra seat. That's just over an extra £3.3M a season. So, if it cost £20M to build the extra seats, it would take 6 years to make the money back (assuming we stay in the Premier League). |
Looking at the costs associated with ground expansion around the country I would be amazed if it could be down for 20m but assuming it can and using your figures, we need 6 years of premier league football. What happens if we are relegated in year one? How do we manage with that debt and gates of 14000 ? Is that really a risk worth taking in the hope of making a few million extra a year. In other words a gamble to increase yearly turnover by less than 3%
Let's be honest does anyone find it that difficult to get home tickets these days? Is anyone really waiting for a season ticket. I'm far from convinced we have this extra 7 to 10 thousand support that people seem to think we have . We are talking about a 40 to 50%increase in home fans. Hmm not sure they are there. But would loved to be PROVED wrong | | | |
| Well that's it then. on 15:51 - Sep 1 with 1087 views | r0ckin |
| Well that's it then. on 15:48 - Sep 1 by jackforever |
Looking at the costs associated with ground expansion around the country I would be amazed if it could be down for 20m but assuming it can and using your figures, we need 6 years of premier league football. What happens if we are relegated in year one? How do we manage with that debt and gates of 14000 ? Is that really a risk worth taking in the hope of making a few million extra a year. In other words a gamble to increase yearly turnover by less than 3%
Let's be honest does anyone find it that difficult to get home tickets these days? Is anyone really waiting for a season ticket. I'm far from convinced we have this extra 7 to 10 thousand support that people seem to think we have . We are talking about a 40 to 50%increase in home fans. Hmm not sure they are there. But would loved to be PROVED wrong |
Yes, I can never get tickets. | |
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