| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! 18:17 - Jan 31 with 7298 views | Lblock |
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Nervously looking at table, tonight's results and the fact that Birmingham yet to win.
This has given me a buzz [Post edited 31 Jan 2017 21:41]
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 08:08 - Feb 1 with 1700 views | qprewan |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 04:34 - Feb 1 by Match82 |
100% agree with this
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100% don't agree with you Brian; after all the countless players we had on mega and I mean mega wages you and a few others moan about Ravel who is on circa 10k a week. Just think we paid swp around 60 for 4 years! Would understand if he was useless and lazy when last here but he wasn't...he scored some goals something we are well short of and was exciting to watch..something else we short of. He also covered a lot of ground and wasn't so ego driven that he wouldn't play the simple ball.
OK I'm not expecting him to be fit but that will come. At the end of the day we are giving him a chance to come back home and maybe just maybe he will be grateful and repay us but you know what if it doesn't happen we have lost absolutely nothing..we all know that the rest of the season is likely to be a dead rubber so personally I will take any excitement on offer...we still as far as I can see have no prolific strikers so having someone like Ravel in the team is a godsend..welcome back!! |  | | |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 08:27 - Feb 1 with 1661 views | Pommyhoop |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 08:08 - Feb 1 by qprewan |
100% don't agree with you Brian; after all the countless players we had on mega and I mean mega wages you and a few others moan about Ravel who is on circa 10k a week. Just think we paid swp around 60 for 4 years! Would understand if he was useless and lazy when last here but he wasn't...he scored some goals something we are well short of and was exciting to watch..something else we short of. He also covered a lot of ground and wasn't so ego driven that he wouldn't play the simple ball.
OK I'm not expecting him to be fit but that will come. At the end of the day we are giving him a chance to come back home and maybe just maybe he will be grateful and repay us but you know what if it doesn't happen we have lost absolutely nothing..we all know that the rest of the season is likely to be a dead rubber so personally I will take any excitement on offer...we still as far as I can see have no prolific strikers so having someone like Ravel in the team is a godsend..welcome back!! |
Yep totally agree ewan.Last season or maybe the one before people were saying they would'nt mind buying Parker or even getting Joey back. Now THAT would be a case of not heeding lessons learnt and chasing the butterfly.. [Post edited 1 Feb 2017 8:28]
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 08:55 - Feb 1 with 1593 views | ElHoop |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 22:10 - Jan 31 by BrianMcCarthy |
Can't get excited about this.
We talk a good game at Rangers - fans, various owners, various managers, CEO's. DOF's. We talk about pathways to the first team, the right sort, ethics, a code, blah, blah, blah. And it all sounds good. And then we see something shiny and we abandon our spiel mid-sentence and we all gape at the shiny new thing that we must have.
We talk big about "lessons learned" and then we throw away the book. Hope it works out, but following Rangers is like watching a schoolkid who concentrates for the first half of the class but then stands up and follows, enraptured, a butterfly out the door. [Post edited 31 Jan 2017 22:48]
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Yes I agree with this Brian. He's a waste of space in my view. Why not bring back Adel if we're going to do this? At least Adel did something once. Maybe we have enough to stay up, but next season? Is this a squad which can challenge for top 6? Do we sign another load of players in the summer? Who will be playing in our starting XI in 12 months time - anyone crazy enough to guess? |  | | |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 08:57 - Feb 1 with 1581 views | smegma |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 00:09 - Feb 1 by DannyPaddox |
Not sure I agree with you Brian but love the imagery. I wish we'd kept and played Shodipo. No fear he'll be back. We are moving in the right direction as regards home-grown/ sourced talent but QPR's best times always involve a maverick.
We've pinched a rated young 'un from Man U (Goss). A 6ft 6" lump of a 50s CF (Smith), a Bristol random (Freeman), and a cross between Shaun Ryder and George Best (RavMo). I don't know how these guys are gonna knit together. Possibly knit one, pearl one, cross one, curl one Hopefully the youth policy hasn't been abandoned, just now part of Ollie's improvised jazz tapestry. Never boring following the Rs. [Post edited 1 Feb 2017 1:52]
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Comparing Ravel to George Best?? As George once said "he's not fit to lace my drink".
The photo of him on the pitch last night was hilarious. Our PR dept were so desperate for a photo they had him stood on the pitch during a storm of biblical proportions. | | | |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 09:02 - Feb 1 with 1567 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 08:08 - Feb 1 by qprewan |
100% don't agree with you Brian; after all the countless players we had on mega and I mean mega wages you and a few others moan about Ravel who is on circa 10k a week. Just think we paid swp around 60 for 4 years! Would understand if he was useless and lazy when last here but he wasn't...he scored some goals something we are well short of and was exciting to watch..something else we short of. He also covered a lot of ground and wasn't so ego driven that he wouldn't play the simple ball.
OK I'm not expecting him to be fit but that will come. At the end of the day we are giving him a chance to come back home and maybe just maybe he will be grateful and repay us but you know what if it doesn't happen we have lost absolutely nothing..we all know that the rest of the season is likely to be a dead rubber so personally I will take any excitement on offer...we still as far as I can see have no prolific strikers so having someone like Ravel in the team is a godsend..welcome back!! |
I wasn't moaning about it, Ewan. To be honest I never even mentioned his wages as I'm incredibly happy with Ferdinand's work on the wage structure.
All I said is that I can't get excited about this. What makes me uneasy is that this seems to represent yet another departure in our philosophy as a team and a club. For a short, glorious spell we had a manager that was going to work with what he had, we had a team that worked its nuts off, we had a pathway to the first team and we signed players who saw us a step up. All of a sudden we have a manager who's busier in the market than Redknapp, a load of our young players are shipped out on loan and we're signing a player from Lazio who's played a handful of games in three years.
As for the maverick issue - yes, we all love a maverick at Rangers, it's part of who we are. But what everyone forgets is that Stan, Rodney, Wegerle, Byrne and Stainrod all had flair and unpredictability on the pitch, but they trained as hard as their team-mates. Adel didn't, so got bombed out. It's up to Morrison now.
I hope it works out, I still love Holloway and I wish Morrison all the best. I'm just trying to be objective. |  |
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 09:07 - Feb 1 with 1552 views | richranger |
So we signed a hugely skillful player who started with a Manchester club, went off the rails and went to many clubs, before signing for us......
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 09:08 - Feb 1 with 1549 views | DejR_vu |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 22:10 - Jan 31 by BrianMcCarthy |
Can't get excited about this.
We talk a good game at Rangers - fans, various owners, various managers, CEO's. DOF's. We talk about pathways to the first team, the right sort, ethics, a code, blah, blah, blah. And it all sounds good. And then we see something shiny and we abandon our spiel mid-sentence and we all gape at the shiny new thing that we must have.
We talk big about "lessons learned" and then we throw away the book. Hope it works out, but following Rangers is like watching a schoolkid who concentrates for the first half of the class but then stands up and follows, enraptured, a butterfly out the door. [Post edited 31 Jan 2017 22:48]
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But it's all about balance.
There is now a pathway to the first team from the academy, but we can't have a first team made up entirely of academy players.
It would be difficult to argue that many of the signings made in the last 18 months haven't been the right sort. I can't think of many bad apples, certainly no Bosingwas/Bartons/SWPs
In the main we are signing younger players with potential to improve (whether they realise that potential is another matter), on more sensible wages, with potential re-sale value.
But, we do need some creativity and spark. I don't see how signing an incredibly talented player, with a very short-term commitment on our part, but with the option of extending if it's in our favour to do so, is either a bad thing or an abandonment of the new philosophy the club is trying to implement. | |
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 09:15 - Feb 1 with 1522 views | qprewan |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 09:02 - Feb 1 by BrianMcCarthy |
I wasn't moaning about it, Ewan. To be honest I never even mentioned his wages as I'm incredibly happy with Ferdinand's work on the wage structure.
All I said is that I can't get excited about this. What makes me uneasy is that this seems to represent yet another departure in our philosophy as a team and a club. For a short, glorious spell we had a manager that was going to work with what he had, we had a team that worked its nuts off, we had a pathway to the first team and we signed players who saw us a step up. All of a sudden we have a manager who's busier in the market than Redknapp, a load of our young players are shipped out on loan and we're signing a player from Lazio who's played a handful of games in three years.
As for the maverick issue - yes, we all love a maverick at Rangers, it's part of who we are. But what everyone forgets is that Stan, Rodney, Wegerle, Byrne and Stainrod all had flair and unpredictability on the pitch, but they trained as hard as their team-mates. Adel didn't, so got bombed out. It's up to Morrison now.
I hope it works out, I still love Holloway and I wish Morrison all the best. I'm just trying to be objective. |
Yes fair enough Brian I think the moaning reference was more directed at some of the other posters than yourself. I am just very frustrated watching us at the moment I mean when did we last have an attacking midfielder who actually scored goals regularly? We have been boring and one dimensional for too long. Obviously Ravel could be a lost cause but still feel we have nothing to lose now we paying sensible wages. | | | |
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 10:51 - Feb 1 with 1426 views | TacticalR |
The problem for me is that over the last five years QPR became a circus as we signed every has been, never was, bad boy and stray dog that other clubs were only too glad to be rid of. So I am allergic to any signing that smacks of the circus.
Nonetheless I hope Morrison does well. |  |
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 13:51 - Feb 1 with 1304 views | qprphil |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 22:10 - Jan 31 by BrianMcCarthy |
Can't get excited about this.
We talk a good game at Rangers - fans, various owners, various managers, CEO's. DOF's. We talk about pathways to the first team, the right sort, ethics, a code, blah, blah, blah. And it all sounds good. And then we see something shiny and we abandon our spiel mid-sentence and we all gape at the shiny new thing that we must have.
We talk big about "lessons learned" and then we throw away the book. Hope it works out, but following Rangers is like watching a schoolkid who concentrates for the first half of the class but then stands up and follows, enraptured, a butterfly out the door. [Post edited 31 Jan 2017 22:48]
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I totally agree with your post Brian but, I don't think this is a bad punt. We have nothing to lose really, no big transfer fee, no big wages. What we COULD get is a match winner, and someone who can excite the fans. If it works, it's exactly what we need, but I won't hold my breath. | | | |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 14:19 - Feb 1 with 1260 views | NW10Hoop |
The thing is a club of our size is never gonna get the maverick game changer unless he's damaged goods.
Doing things the right way will hopefully lead to more of our players being consistent 7 out of 10 performers instead of the 3 or 4 out of 10s we've had in our recent past.
So many games in the championship are wars of attrition that you still need someone capable of moments of magic to win some matches.... and to put bums on seats.
Seems like a calculated risk to me, but one very much worth taking. [Post edited 1 Feb 2017 15:39]
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 14:59 - Feb 1 with 1204 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Some very good posts with differing points of view.
Hope he's fit very soon because there's no doubt that he's exciting to watch. Looking forward to that! | |
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 15:59 - Feb 1 with 1145 views | TacticalR |
There's a short interview with him on player. Says he decided to focus about 6 months ago because he wasn't playing. Que sera, sera. | |
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| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 18:35 - Feb 1 with 1043 views | timcocking |
Over the moon. At last a player worthy of our number 10 shirt, even if they've given it to a central midfielder instead. Really hope it goes well for him and us... |  | | |
| Welcome Ravel (again...) Done! on 11:51 - Feb 2 with 917 views | TacticalR |
Some of the right sort turned out to be some of the wrong sort so now we are gambling that some of the wrong sort will turn out to be some of the right sort. | |
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