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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . 20:11 - Dec 11 with 8884 viewsicecoldjack

Seem to be giving him a right slating, wondering when he will win a header ! They don't seem happy with his contribution at all and just think he's an average older defender schooled in the lower leagues.

http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?/topic/28108-ashley-williams/page-9#entry549


Bit harsh or not ?

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:13 - Dec 11 with 5757 viewsLoyal

They are on a shit run, blame game.
However, fck him. He wanted to go.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:18 - Dec 11 with 5703 viewsDarran

Ashley Williams is one of the greatest players to ever play for us but he was never going to be good for a club that is going to be looking for a top 7 finish like Everton fans expect every season.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:26 - Dec 11 with 5655 viewsbuilthjack

Didn't he have 3 motm awards for them on the bounce not so long back

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:28 - Dec 11 with 5628 viewsicecoldjack

For sure he has been a marvel for us but at the same time his limitations have been there for all to see, no surprise no big clubs came calling really, small and can't head a ball properly .

Everton fans are no mugs, ash has a huge ego, maybe he performs better with the captains arm band ?

Anyway , was after a move for years,finally got one and it's going a bit wonky, not the first and won't be the last .
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:29 - Dec 11 with 5613 viewsDarran

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:28 - Dec 11 by icecoldjack

For sure he has been a marvel for us but at the same time his limitations have been there for all to see, no surprise no big clubs came calling really, small and can't head a ball properly .

Everton fans are no mugs, ash has a huge ego, maybe he performs better with the captains arm band ?

Anyway , was after a move for years,finally got one and it's going a bit wonky, not the first and won't be the last .


Can't argue with that Tone.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:32 - Dec 11 with 5590 viewsLoyal

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:28 - Dec 11 by icecoldjack

For sure he has been a marvel for us but at the same time his limitations have been there for all to see, no surprise no big clubs came calling really, small and can't head a ball properly .

Everton fans are no mugs, ash has a huge ego, maybe he performs better with the captains arm band ?

Anyway , was after a move for years,finally got one and it's going a bit wonky, not the first and won't be the last .


Grass is always Robinson.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:34 - Dec 11 with 5552 viewsdickythorpe

His heading at goal is hilarious. You just know he has no idea where the ball is going to end up. His he scored in the Euros is beyond me, plus for us at the Emirates it came off his shorts!!!
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:34 - Dec 11 with 5552 viewsTheKirkyLife

I swore I was seeing things when he played against us but on MOTD this weekend it was confirmed clear as day to me - he's lost A LOT of weight. With all due respect his bulk was one of the things strikers feared since he could knock them off the ball with a well read tackle. He seems to be more mobile nowadays but has no idea what to do with that mobility.

All in all, £12 million still a tidy sum in my books.
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:36 - Dec 11 with 5525 viewsDr_Winston

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:34 - Dec 11 by TheKirkyLife

I swore I was seeing things when he played against us but on MOTD this weekend it was confirmed clear as day to me - he's lost A LOT of weight. With all due respect his bulk was one of the things strikers feared since he could knock them off the ball with a well read tackle. He seems to be more mobile nowadays but has no idea what to do with that mobility.

All in all, £12 million still a tidy sum in my books.


£12m was a good price.

Our defensive woes this season are more about a lack of quality coaching and organising rather than the absence of Ash.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:37 - Dec 11 with 5520 viewsdickythorpe

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:34 - Dec 11 by TheKirkyLife

I swore I was seeing things when he played against us but on MOTD this weekend it was confirmed clear as day to me - he's lost A LOT of weight. With all due respect his bulk was one of the things strikers feared since he could knock them off the ball with a well read tackle. He seems to be more mobile nowadays but has no idea what to do with that mobility.

All in all, £12 million still a tidy sum in my books.


Somethings happened to his hairstyle as well.
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:37 - Dec 11 with 5521 viewsLeonWasGod

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:34 - Dec 11 by TheKirkyLife

I swore I was seeing things when he played against us but on MOTD this weekend it was confirmed clear as day to me - he's lost A LOT of weight. With all due respect his bulk was one of the things strikers feared since he could knock them off the ball with a well read tackle. He seems to be more mobile nowadays but has no idea what to do with that mobility.

All in all, £12 million still a tidy sum in my books.


Tbh I'd rather have another season of Ash than the £12m that's disappeared. We've missed him and that's a fact.
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:37 - Dec 11 with 5518 viewslifelong

Watched a few of their games and haven't been impressed with Ash.
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:44 - Dec 11 with 5457 viewsItchySphincter

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:18 - Dec 11 by Darran

Ashley Williams is one of the greatest players to ever play for us but he was never going to be good for a club that is going to be looking for a top 7 finish like Everton fans expect every season.


Well I said he's get found out up there. He was great for us because he was part of something but a lot of the time he is no great shakes.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:45 - Dec 11 with 5448 viewsItchySphincter

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:28 - Dec 11 by icecoldjack

For sure he has been a marvel for us but at the same time his limitations have been there for all to see, no surprise no big clubs came calling really, small and can't head a ball properly .

Everton fans are no mugs, ash has a huge ego, maybe he performs better with the captains arm band ?

Anyway , was after a move for years,finally got one and it's going a bit wonky, not the first and won't be the last .


True, and the only mistake we made in selling him was not replacing him. Past it.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:48 - Dec 11 with 5423 viewsDarran

Kaplan and Levien told the people around me yesterday that Frankie wanted him out. FACT

I don't know if it's a FACT Frankie wanted him out but it's a 100% FACT that they said that yesterday.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:49 - Dec 11 with 5418 viewsmonmouth

I thought he was doing alright up there and it was all hunky dory and mutual jerking off between him and Koeman. I suppose Koeman's lost his shine now too though.

I think he's a decent solid defender that will make mistakes, probably that's not good enough for scouse lite.

He was total gash yesterday mind. Oh, and against Chelsea.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:52 - Dec 11 with 5380 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:48 - Dec 11 by Darran

Kaplan and Levien told the people around me yesterday that Frankie wanted him out. FACT

I don't know if it's a FACT Frankie wanted him out but it's a 100% FACT that they said that yesterday.


I wouldn't trust either of those two to tell the truth.

They want to work with the Trust so they say.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:53 - Dec 11 with 5370 viewsDarran

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:52 - Dec 11 by Joe_bradshaw

I wouldn't trust either of those two to tell the truth.

They want to work with the Trust so they say.


Indeed.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 06:22 - Dec 12 with 4830 viewsDewi1jack

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:48 - Dec 11 by Darran

Kaplan and Levien told the people around me yesterday that Frankie wanted him out. FACT

I don't know if it's a FACT Frankie wanted him out but it's a 100% FACT that they said that yesterday.


And Jenkins should have told the Merrycans that he needed replacing with a quality defender.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 08:11 - Dec 12 with 4712 viewsAnotherJohn

Ash could have been a legend here, but all we'll remember now is that he jumped ship and left us in trouble. There is no way the Everton fans will recall his time with them with any great degree of affection. I wonder if he'll find that worth the extra couple of million and the disruption of moving to Merseyside.
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 08:16 - Dec 12 with 4695 viewsWarwickHunt

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 20:48 - Dec 11 by Darran

Kaplan and Levien told the people around me yesterday that Frankie wanted him out. FACT

I don't know if it's a FACT Frankie wanted him out but it's a 100% FACT that they said that yesterday.


Manager wants to cash in on an ageing player with too much power in the dressing room and previous for being a bit of an uppity, troublemaking cûnt?

Colour me surprised.
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 08:29 - Dec 12 with 4657 viewsBlasterJack

He was poor on the weekend against Watford but I would still have him back in a heartbeat.

A leader on and off the pitch and one of the reasons why we have been so disjointed this season.

Would have liked to have seen him alongside the likes of Mawson or VdH who would benefit tremendously from it.

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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 09:11 - Dec 12 with 4594 viewsLeonWasGod

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 06:22 - Dec 12 by Dewi1jack

And Jenkins should have told the Merrycans that he needed replacing with a quality defender.


Any truth in the rumour they're trying to persuade Dennis Lawrence to make a comeback?
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 09:16 - Dec 12 with 4579 viewsWarwickHunt

Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 09:11 - Dec 12 by LeonWasGod

Any truth in the rumour they're trying to persuade Dennis Lawrence to make a comeback?


That rumour has legs.

Probably just a pipe (cleaner) dream though.
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Everton fans not "touched" by Ash . on 09:53 - Dec 12 with 4499 viewsmacthejack

He's demonstrating what we all knew anyway. A fantastic but ageing defender who is past his best and on decline. £10-12 looks like a good deal for as but as people have said, it's all academic when it's just lining the pockets of our new 'investors'.
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