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Remain With or Leave the EU 19:55 - Jun 2 with 138457 viewsunion_jack

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 21:41 - Jun 3 with 3389 viewslondonlisa2001

Remain With or Leave the EU on 21:36 - Jun 3 by Flashberryjack

Fair comment, but if I'm correct and it does self destruct, we'd be in much better shape trading and financially wise, if we were already far less-reliant on trade within the EU, as we were when we decided not to adopt the Euro.


I agree that we should become less reliant on trade with the EU. nothing wrong with doing that anyway whether we're in or out.
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Remain With or Leave the EU on 09:04 - Jun 4 with 3347 viewsWhiterockin

I expect the vote to be quite regional, with England being predominantly out with a stronger in vote for Wales and Scotland. From people I have come into contact with and spoken to daily across England and Wales, the momentum at the moment seems to be with out. But one major news item in the last couple of days before the vote could swing it either way.
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Remain With or Leave the EU on 09:26 - Jun 4 with 3335 viewsBanosswan

Remain With or Leave the EU on 21:15 - Jun 3 by londonlisa2001

I think that's a perfectly reasonable argument.

I also think it will change, but have decided it may be better to influence the change from within.


Cameron tried that and was basically laughed out of Brussels.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 15:34 - Jun 4 with 3264 viewsDarran

Remain With or Leave the EU on 09:26 - Jun 4 by Banosswan

Cameron tried that and was basically laughed out of Brussels.


Why is this shit a sticky?

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 15:43 - Jun 4 with 3253 viewsunion_jack

Remain With or Leave the EU on 15:34 - Jun 4 by Darran

Why is this shit a sticky?


Cos I asked it to be.

Problem?

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 15:44 - Jun 4 with 3252 viewsDarran

Remain With or Leave the EU on 15:43 - Jun 4 by union_jack

Cos I asked it to be.

Problem?


Yeah.

Seriously though stickies spoil the board and there's no need for this one.
Bony again I suppose?

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:08 - Jun 4 with 3234 viewsunion_jack

Remain With or Leave the EU on 15:44 - Jun 4 by Darran

Yeah.

Seriously though stickies spoil the board and there's no need for this one.
Bony again I suppose?


FFS, is there nothing you won't moan about???

It's one of the most important issues we'll face in our lives and this straw poll may give us an idea.

I'd like to see how many of us are voting and which way.

Now, have you voted?

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:15 - Jun 4 with 3220 viewsDarran

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:08 - Jun 4 by union_jack

FFS, is there nothing you won't moan about???

It's one of the most important issues we'll face in our lives and this straw poll may give us an idea.

I'd like to see how many of us are voting and which way.

Now, have you voted?


Actually I have voted it went in the postbox last night.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:16 - Jun 4 with 3220 viewsWhiterockin

If you are interested the pole from the east. (I don't mean Fabianski)

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=173219&sid=d28600a807f5721
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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:20 - Jun 4 with 3207 viewsunion_jack

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:15 - Jun 4 by Darran

Actually I have voted it went in the postbox last night.


Well done!

Would you like to share it on here?

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:23 - Jun 4 with 3199 viewsunion_jack

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:16 - Jun 4 by Whiterockin

If you are interested the pole from the east. (I don't mean Fabianski)

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=173219&sid=d28600a807f5721
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Interesting. They are farther apart than our good selves.

When I first started to think about it a few months ago, I was convinced the Remain vote would win comfortably. It seems from these won small samples that it may not be that simple.

People in certain places getting panicky I suppose. Whoever they may be!!

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:26 - Jun 4 with 3191 viewsWhiterockin

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:23 - Jun 4 by union_jack

Interesting. They are farther apart than our good selves.

When I first started to think about it a few months ago, I was convinced the Remain vote would win comfortably. It seems from these won small samples that it may not be that simple.

People in certain places getting panicky I suppose. Whoever they may be!!


I have a feeling that many who do not want change are the type not to bother to vote. People who want change will be prepared to go out and vote for it. This in the end could make all the difference.
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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:27 - Jun 4 with 3185 viewsDarran

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:20 - Jun 4 by union_jack

Well done!

Would you like to share it on here?



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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:28 - Jun 4 with 3178 viewsunion_jack

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:27 - Jun 4 by Darran



Subtle!

Seems we are in the majority. Interesting times ahead.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:51 - Jun 4 with 3142 viewsStarsky

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:28 - Jun 4 by union_jack

Subtle!

Seems we are in the majority. Interesting times ahead.


I voted to leave, every day that passes I want to leave even more.

It's just the internet, init.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:54 - Jun 4 with 2651 viewsexiledclaseboy

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:51 - Jun 4 by Starsky

I voted to leave, every day that passes I want to leave even more.


With every person that announces they want to leave I want to remain even more.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:04 - Jun 4 with 2640 viewscontroversial_jack

I believe it would be a financial disaster to leave, and I think practicalities should prevail over the leave campaigns Dad's army mentality.
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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:16 - Jun 4 with 2624 viewsStarsky

Remain With or Leave the EU on 16:54 - Jun 4 by exiledclaseboy

With every person that announces they want to leave I want to remain even more.


Well you would wouldn't you...
It's EU gone mad.

It's just the internet, init.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:19 - Jun 4 with 2623 viewsexiledclaseboy

Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:16 - Jun 4 by Starsky

Well you would wouldn't you...
It's EU gone mad.


Truth be told, Starsk, I haven't really decided. Both in and out have their potential advantages. I am struggling with the complete c*ntiness of the leave campaign though so I'm leaning heavily towards remain.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:25 - Jun 4 with 2615 viewsmonmouth

Here's an interesting article by Jenkins (Simon not Huw. Huw's view of the issue, indeed any issue, is...'gimmee my moneeeeeeee yankee').

This doesn't try and stampede either way with the usual hysterical hyperbole from both sides.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/03/leave-remain-britain-fortun

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:42 - Jun 4 with 2580 viewsStarsky

Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:19 - Jun 4 by exiledclaseboy

Truth be told, Starsk, I haven't really decided. Both in and out have their potential advantages. I am struggling with the complete c*ntiness of the leave campaign though so I'm leaning heavily towards remain.


It's fairly obvious even to a political dummy like me that the Beitish politicians are serving their careers by staying in Europe. Old pals act.
We certainly get the raw deal from the EU and that's a fact.

It's just the internet, init.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:47 - Jun 4 with 2573 viewsexiledclaseboy

Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:42 - Jun 4 by Starsky

It's fairly obvious even to a political dummy like me that the Beitish politicians are serving their careers by staying in Europe. Old pals act.
We certainly get the raw deal from the EU and that's a fact.


No that's an opinion. There are no facts in this debate on either side. Just conjecture, speculation and strongly held opinions.
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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:47 - Jun 4 with 2573 viewsmonmouth

Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:42 - Jun 4 by Starsky

It's fairly obvious even to a political dummy like me that the Beitish politicians are serving their careers by staying in Europe. Old pals act.
We certainly get the raw deal from the EU and that's a fact.


It's not a fact unless you can evaluate the benefits Starsk, and no one can.

I have no idea what's best but anyone pretending that exit isn't a massive gamble and leap in the dark is a liar.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:47 - Jun 4 with 2570 viewsHighjack

Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:19 - Jun 4 by exiledclaseboy

Truth be told, Starsk, I haven't really decided. Both in and out have their potential advantages. I am struggling with the complete c*ntiness of the leave campaign though so I'm leaning heavily towards remain.


The complete cu ntiness you refer to isn't limited only to the leave side. It's been an absolute clusterfcuk of cu ntiness on both sides from the start.

I don't think we'll be allowed to leave anyway even if vote leave wins. They'll make a couple of concessions and keep having referendums until we vote the way they want us to. It would be funny to see Cameron's face though.

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Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:51 - Jun 4 with 2567 viewsexiledclaseboy

Remain With or Leave the EU on 17:47 - Jun 4 by Highjack

The complete cu ntiness you refer to isn't limited only to the leave side. It's been an absolute clusterfcuk of cu ntiness on both sides from the start.

I don't think we'll be allowed to leave anyway even if vote leave wins. They'll make a couple of concessions and keep having referendums until we vote the way they want us to. It would be funny to see Cameron's face though.


I completely agree with the first part.

I couldn't disagree more with the second part. That's a delusion held by those who want to vote to leave safe in the knowledge that we'll end up staying in anyway. It won't happen like that.

But yes, Cammers' face would be hilarious. As would his 24 June visit to the Queen to tender his resignation.

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