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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 15:07 - Mar 23 by kensalriser
Clive, do you see London becoming less than 50% white British as a negative thing?
Whenever I see/hear people talking about white people becoming a minority I think of Hari Kondabolu. The point being that being less than 50% of a population doesn't make you a minority
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 17:03 - Mar 23 with 3085 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 17:37 - Mar 23 by BazzaInTheLoft
We're talking about islam in the UK arn't we? Islamification of the UK is the core of your worries am I right?
Islam in rural Afghanistan might not have changed in 1400 years but Islam in Europe and the West has, with barbaric exceptions.
There were no Konnie Huqs, Sadiq Khans, or Mo Farahs 1400 years ago.
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Islam in rural Afghanistan has changed a lot in the last 30 years. The Bamiyan statues (pre-Islamic, Buddhist) stood for 1500 years until the Taliban blew them up in 2001. Why do you think all change will be to your taste?
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 17:55 - Mar 23 with 2990 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 17:49 - Mar 23 by MrSheen
Islam in rural Afghanistan has changed a lot in the last 30 years. The Bamiyan statues (pre-Islamic, Buddhist) stood for 1500 years until the Taliban blew them up in 2001. Why do you think all change will be to your taste?
I don't and I never said it would.
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 18:00 - Mar 23 with 2965 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 16:47 - Mar 23 by Pommyhoop
Anyone got a chart for London?
Interestingly there was a dip for a few decades after WWII but has been growing rapidly since the early 90's, as this one shows;
Is this down to birth or immigration?
I think what some may be alluding to is that the indigenous population is being pushed out and replaced by non-indigenous people. It's not about being black or white, racist or non-racist but it's clear there are less and less British people now in London.
And yes, I do feel this is a bad thing in the same way it was bad that indigenous native Indians in America got forced off their land by mainly Europeans (could bringing up that analogy be 'Sioux's Law?'!). I think it's perfectly possible to have these thoughts and concerns without being racist or the fear of being branded so. Is it 'racist' that Spanish people don't like swathes of English people taking over the Costa del Sol?
It's this situation where people are scared of saying anything and of being branded as such that plays straight into the hands of others and they get away with all sorts. We've become afraid to say anything to, or about, non-British people for fear of being branded racist.
As I said recently on another thread, a few months ago I went into a butchers in Hounslow High Street and everyone there was staring at me, the only white English person in the shop. Felt very strange.
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 09:23 - Mar 22 by paulparker
Sorry but its not just a "few" or the "minority" its a very large network behind this with a very large percentage of people & networks who support them its not a lone wolf nutter , that would be a "minority" like it or not we are at war with these people , there is no talking to them now is the time we pull out of Syria and start defending these shores , use our resources to nick or deport those with extreme views , its time we got tough , if those who don't want to be here who hate western values and our cultures let them go elsewhere im sick of this happening and it will keep happening unless we do something
Agree with this.
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 19:16 - Mar 23 with 2860 views
Some pretty remarkable statistics here. Western Europe has had less deaths resulting from terrorist attacks in the last decade than at any time since the 70s.
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 19:23 - Mar 23 with 2836 views
I think belief that Islam will get "watered" down or less barbaric as time goes on is beyond wishful thinking. The extreme version that I S follow apparently is Wahabi . Anyone see the documentary on ITV (tuesday night I think it was) using hidden cameras inside Saudi Arabia? It's being churned out over there in schools, mosques and everyday life with a sort of religious police enforcing the population don't stray
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport (n/t) on 19:29 - Mar 23 with 2831 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 16:40 - Mar 23 by Juzzie
Population increase is exponential though.
UK;
World;
Same pattern.
200 hundred years ago there were just under 1 billion people, now it's 8 billion+.
This planet, let alone the UK, cannot cope with this rise.
I read an article a few years about "underground sun". If I recall it was alluding that population growth is linked to our ability to tap into underground resources; oil, iron ore, gold, silver and all other metals, rock of all kinds, salt, coal, minerals, even deep sea fishing. All the while we could just use surface resources (mainly farming/agriculture etc) the population was fairly level.
Once the industrial revolution kicked in and we got better & better at drawing on underground resources the population exploded.
One day they'll all start running out.
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 19:31 - Mar 23 with 2826 views
Never said there were no good Muslims 1400 years ago.
Muslims at one point were the leading drivers of science and discovery.
I can safely say with some confidence, that there were not millions of westernised muslims who 1400 years ago successfully adapted their culture and beliefs to the country they, or their parents, or their grandparents moved to.
Anyway it feels like we are both pissing in the wind here so let's save our time and energy eh.
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 19:36 - Mar 23 with 2808 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 19:23 - Mar 23 by QPRDave
I think belief that Islam will get "watered" down or less barbaric as time goes on is beyond wishful thinking. The extreme version that I S follow apparently is Wahabi . Anyone see the documentary on ITV (tuesday night I think it was) using hidden cameras inside Saudi Arabia? It's being churned out over there in schools, mosques and everyday life with a sort of religious police enforcing the population don't stray
Just as well that we sell them billions of pounds worth of weapons and 'security' equipment then. Whilst they quietly get on with creating the next major refugee crisis in Yemen and (not so surreptitiously) encourage and fund Isis etc etc
It's almost as if we're deliberately inviting later problems/issues/excuses where we can insist on further violence.
Surely not?
Watch this space.
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 19:43 - Mar 23 with 1976 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 15:38 - Mar 23 by Pommyhoop
Is it too early to say the Belgian police/security forces dont seem up to much. They had a gunfight with them 8 days ago and they slipped away FFS. They arrested that Paris bomber a couple of days ago and they must have gone up to Def Con 5.But still they let 3 ( or is it 4 now) young Arab males waltz into the airport unchallenged. I mean how sus do those blokes in the pic look? There's no way that would've happened in the UK .
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I've just read that one of the bombers was deported back to Belgium from Turkey and the authority's were informed that he was a militant jihadist. Piss poor show by Belgium..
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 19:16 - Mar 23 by FDC
Some pretty remarkable statistics here. Western Europe has had less deaths resulting from terrorist attacks in the last decade than at any time since the 70s.
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I think we're ahead on goal difference
Strong and stable my arse.
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 21:15 - Mar 23 with 1825 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 19:16 - Mar 23 by FDC
Some pretty remarkable statistics here. Western Europe has had less deaths resulting from terrorist attacks in the last decade than at any time since the 70s.
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MAJORITY CAUSE OF TERRORISM 1970 -2054
1970-98 Irish Nationalism
1998-26 Islamic Fundamentalism
2026-54 Loft For Words Civil War (Ramsey Inners v Ramsey Outers)
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 21:20 - Mar 23 with 1815 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 20:27 - Mar 23 by Pommyhoop
I've just read that one of the bombers was deported back to Belgium from Turkey and the authority's were informed that he was a militant jihadist. Piss poor show by Belgium..
No surprise from the homeland of Marc Dutroux.
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Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 22:23 - Mar 23 with 1746 views
Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 21:20 - Mar 23 by MrSheen
No surprise from the homeland of Marc Dutroux.
I don't think the Belgian Intelligence Services or police come out of this very well. They've known that there is a problem on their doorstep (Moelenbeek, in particular) and don't appear to have much of an insight into potential terrorist threats.
Cross border collaboration between the security services is a must when faced with such a threat but I feel a good deal safer in the UK than I would in Belgium. And, I was seriously looking at working in Belgium last year. Today, I'm grateful that I didn't.
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