| Shelvey 17:07 - Jan 4 with 7518 views | stid |
What exactly has he done wrong? |  | | |  |
| Shelvey on 17:07 - Jan 4 with 4590 views | Jack_Kass |
Doesn't run. | |
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| Shelvey on 17:08 - Jan 4 with 4583 views | ItchySphincter |
Playing like a bit of a minge, much like the rest of them, and being a pikey tw@t. |  |
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| Shelvey on 17:08 - Jan 4 with 4580 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Did you watch the last game he started in and the game prior to that when he was a sub?
If so I am surprised you have to ask. | | | |
| Shelvey on 17:09 - Jan 4 with 4570 views | raynor94 |
Honestly, do you watch us at all, if you do you should be able to fathom it out |  |
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| Shelvey on 17:10 - Jan 4 with 4554 views | Swanjaxs |
This is one transfer that needs to be done swiftly, the sooner he's gone the better for all parties |  |
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| Shelvey on 17:10 - Jan 4 with 4551 views | stid |
Yes ok he isnt playing well but for me prior this spell he was one of the players you could count on putting in a shift every game | | | |
| Shelvey on 17:12 - Jan 4 with 4531 views | raynor94 |
| Shelvey on 17:10 - Jan 4 by stid |
Yes ok he isnt playing well but for me prior this spell he was one of the players you could count on putting in a shift every game |
I'd hazard a guess, and say you are in the minority | |
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| Shelvey on 17:15 - Jan 4 with 4500 views | stid |
| Shelvey on 17:12 - Jan 4 by raynor94 |
I'd hazard a guess, and say you are in the minority |
No few months ago this site was crawling with people calling for an england call up , Get a ST that will actually make runs and we can see the best of Shelvey again | | | |
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| Shelvey on 17:17 - Jan 4 with 4470 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Shelvey on 17:12 - Jan 4 by raynor94 |
I'd hazard a guess, and say you are in the minority |
Actually I agree with him, but you have to go back a long way to when JJS was putting in a real shift. | | | |
| Shelvey on 17:24 - Jan 4 with 4430 views | monmouth |
He couldn't have made it much more obvious that he doesn't want to be here and hasn't for a while. Monk stopped picking him; Curt left him out then tried to put him in the shop window and he reacted like the worst kind of half witted over indulged cretin that you could imagine.
If he was half as good as he thinks he is he'd be three times as good as he is.
Hard to see how it can be resolved now other than a sale. I might be in the minority in thinking that (if both parties wanted it) he could be an asset and could fit into our required style, but I think it's gone far too far for that.
Give someone else the headache of managing him. |  |
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| Shelvey on 17:24 - Jan 4 with 4429 views | Oldjack |
Johnny big bollocks has his head well and truly up his bumhole ,shame that because he is a very good player when he puts his mind to it |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Shelvey on 17:28 - Jan 4 with 4387 views | jojaca |
| Shelvey on 17:24 - Jan 4 by Oldjack |
Johnny big bollocks has his head well and truly up his bumhole ,shame that because he is a very good player when he puts his mind to it |
Bloody wears a scarf for training and we have had mild winter this year. |  |
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| Shelvey on 17:30 - Jan 4 with 4368 views | karnataka |
| Shelvey on 17:10 - Jan 4 by stid |
Yes ok he isnt playing well but for me prior this spell he was one of the players you could count on putting in a shift every game |
Isn't playing well?? I don't know if PlanetSwans has an "Understatement of the Year" award category but just 4 days into 2016 and we already have a contender. |  | | |
| Shelvey on 17:43 - Jan 4 with 4280 views | stid |
| Shelvey on 17:30 - Jan 4 by karnataka |
Isn't playing well?? I don't know if PlanetSwans has an "Understatement of the Year" award category but just 4 days into 2016 and we already have a contender. |
Half the team aint playing well, just like taylor a few weeks back shelvey is just being targeted for it.Be silly to sell in my opinion. He is our most complete midfielder and still young | | | |
| Shelvey on 17:45 - Jan 4 with 4266 views | VetchitBack |
He's hated on here but that could be argued to be a good thing it certainly isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I think on the vast majority of occasions his positives outweigh his negatives. One of a few players who isn't afraid to play it safe and has the ability to create and score from distance.
Maybe you could argue that says more about where we are as team at the moment. Or a point about the impotence of most of our attack. |  |
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| Shelvey on 17:47 - Jan 4 with 4254 views | karnataka |
| Shelvey on 17:43 - Jan 4 by stid |
Half the team aint playing well, just like taylor a few weeks back shelvey is just being targeted for it.Be silly to sell in my opinion. He is our most complete midfielder and still young |
He's been a professional footballer for 7 years and against Palace put in the least professional performance I've seen any footballer give. At what stage of his career does he grow up? | | | |
| Shelvey on 17:51 - Jan 4 with 4213 views | dailew |
| Shelvey on 17:10 - Jan 4 by stid |
Yes ok he isnt playing well but for me prior this spell he was one of the players you could count on putting in a shift every game |
Opinion is divided on this point.
You believe it to be so but everyone else in the world believes otherwise. [Post edited 4 Jan 2016 18:12]
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| Shelvey on 17:55 - Jan 4 with 4179 views | stid |
| Shelvey on 17:47 - Jan 4 by karnataka |
He's been a professional footballer for 7 years and against Palace put in the least professional performance I've seen any footballer give. At what stage of his career does he grow up? |
Palace away was hard work and gritty which yes I know doesn't suit jjs, jjs wants to be on the ball and make things happen. Last season when we were playing well and comfortable look at his performances then. Thats what we have a squad for, some player are better suited to different period of form. Leon has been brilliant recently but can you honestly say he gets in the team if we are mid table? | | | |
| Shelvey on 18:03 - Jan 4 with 4121 views | raynor94 |
| Shelvey on 17:55 - Jan 4 by stid |
Palace away was hard work and gritty which yes I know doesn't suit jjs, jjs wants to be on the ball and make things happen. Last season when we were playing well and comfortable look at his performances then. Thats what we have a squad for, some player are better suited to different period of form. Leon has been brilliant recently but can you honestly say he gets in the team if we are mid table? |
Effort didn't suit Shelvey at Palace, he quite obviously doesn't want to be here | |
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| Shelvey on 18:08 - Jan 4 with 4097 views | Swanjaxs |
Nobody is saying Shelvey hasn't got ability, this is about his attitude, after his abysmal performance at Palace he couldn't have made his intentions more clear if he tried. ... and he didn't. .enough said | |
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| Shelvey on 18:10 - Jan 4 with 4075 views | jruss1 |
Urgh. Still people defending him?
7 years into his career and he's still having problems applying himself consistantly.
GM seemed to get through to him last season, he finally took things seriously, got fit,stayed fit and worked hard.
But it didn't last long did it? He's quickly gone back to what he was before. An inflated view of himself, lazy, unfit etc All we need now is an outburst on Twitter from his misses blaming someone else.
The excuses people bang out for him are boring now. How many times does the same thing have to happen?
When you think of his actual performances, how often has he reached his peak? How many assits? How many goals? People make him out to be this great match winner on a pedalstone ahead of the rest of the midfield, but it's simply not true.
His peformance v Palace was a real shocker. He didn't care, and nor was he afraid to show it. No doubt it's someone else's fault bar his.
Give me Leon Britton any day of the week.
In our current situation Shelvey is not what we need or want. We can command a ridiculous 8-10 million fee and when we still have Leon, Cork, Ki and Siggy to pick from, we would be utterly mad to turn it down when we can use some of that to improve our strike force.
The general view if that Rodgers didn't give me a proper chance at Liverpool, but he saw through his nonsense pretty quickly. If Huw has such a great respect for BR, he should have taken that as a massive red flag and not bothered wth him. | | | |
| Shelvey on 18:17 - Jan 4 with 4001 views | stid |
| Shelvey on 18:10 - Jan 4 by jruss1 |
Urgh. Still people defending him?
7 years into his career and he's still having problems applying himself consistantly.
GM seemed to get through to him last season, he finally took things seriously, got fit,stayed fit and worked hard.
But it didn't last long did it? He's quickly gone back to what he was before. An inflated view of himself, lazy, unfit etc All we need now is an outburst on Twitter from his misses blaming someone else.
The excuses people bang out for him are boring now. How many times does the same thing have to happen?
When you think of his actual performances, how often has he reached his peak? How many assits? How many goals? People make him out to be this great match winner on a pedalstone ahead of the rest of the midfield, but it's simply not true.
His peformance v Palace was a real shocker. He didn't care, and nor was he afraid to show it. No doubt it's someone else's fault bar his.
Give me Leon Britton any day of the week.
In our current situation Shelvey is not what we need or want. We can command a ridiculous 8-10 million fee and when we still have Leon, Cork, Ki and Siggy to pick from, we would be utterly mad to turn it down when we can use some of that to improve our strike force.
The general view if that Rodgers didn't give me a proper chance at Liverpool, but he saw through his nonsense pretty quickly. If Huw has such a great respect for BR, he should have taken that as a massive red flag and not bothered wth him. |
JJS Currently has more assists than Gylfi... | | | |
| Shelvey on 18:23 - Jan 4 with 3942 views | monmouth |
| Shelvey on 18:17 - Jan 4 by stid |
JJS Currently has more assists than Gylfi... |
Gylfi currently has more goals than JJS.... | |
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| Shelvey on 18:26 - Jan 4 with 3934 views | pencoedjack |
| Shelvey on 18:17 - Jan 4 by stid |
JJS Currently has more assists than Gylfi... |
JJS
Appearances 126
Goals 12
Yellow cards
24
Red cards
2
Gylfi
Appearances 128
Goals 25
Yellow cards
7
Red cards
0
Plus Gylfi gives 100% |  | | |
| Shelvey on 18:30 - Jan 4 with 3906 views | jack247 |
| Shelvey on 18:17 - Jan 4 by stid |
JJS Currently has more assists than Gylfi... |
He won't for long.
I'm surprised people need this pointing out to them, but....
If we want to play purely to get the best out of Gomis, then Shelvey has to start. He is the only one who can play as a deep lying playmaker and produce 40 yard defence splitting passes out of nowhere. If we do this, we sacrifice most of the flair in the team and play at a fairly pesdestrian pace. The football will be turgid, but he is capable of producing something out of nothing. If he can play Gomis through the inside right channel, there is a good chance he will score. There is no need for Leon in a team set up like that and Gylfi becomes a workhorse rather than a creative influence.
If we want to play a triangle style game to get the best out of the team as a whole, we have to leave Shelvey out (or use him as an impact sub) as he is not suited to high tempo, short sharp passing. His game is much more deliberate. He will play slowly, assess options and now and then produce a piece of magic to open up a defence. Playing him in a fast moving side doesn't work as he just slows play down. This is a big part of the reason that whenever we have (had) a chance to counter attack, the opposition were invariably back in position by the time we got a move going, which leaves Gomis isolated against two centre backs.
There are pros and cons of both approaches, by the looks of it, GM preferred the first, AC prefers the second.
That doesn't take into account the fact that his attitude has seemed a bit off lately, he allegedly wants out (don't know if there is any truth in that), we need funds for a new centre forward and he is one of our most saleable assets. | | | |
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