| Fernandes says we should manage expectations 06:27 - Nov 9 with 12911 views | SuffolkHoop |
@tonyfernandes: Qpr fans should manage expectations. No club is more transparent than us. Lots and lots been done |  | | |  |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 12:10 - Nov 11 with 1213 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 11:29 - Nov 11 by Northernr |
And therefore you play it nice and calm and low key, talk about future aspirations and hopes. You don't say "we'll be in our training ground for 2015/16" for instance, or "we'll be in our new stadium for 2018" for instance. And you especially don't say those things and then when they don't happen tell people they need to manage their expectations. Our expectations are just fine mate, it's yours that seem to be all over the place. |
Maybe we should just put up some hay bales and tarpaulin, build the training ground anyway and hope no one notices like the bloke on the news recently? |  | | |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 13:00 - Nov 11 with 1161 views | JonDoeman |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 12:10 - Nov 11 by adhoc_qpr |
Maybe we should just put up some hay bales and tarpaulin, build the training ground anyway and hope no one notices like the bloke on the news recently? |
That was brilliant & he's called Mr Fidler! |  |
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| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 13:39 - Nov 11 with 1134 views | NorthKen |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 11:29 - Nov 11 by Northernr |
And therefore you play it nice and calm and low key, talk about future aspirations and hopes. You don't say "we'll be in our training ground for 2015/16" for instance, or "we'll be in our new stadium for 2018" for instance. And you especially don't say those things and then when they don't happen tell people they need to manage their expectations. Our expectations are just fine mate, it's yours that seem to be all over the place. |
Hear, hear! I revised my expectations back in May (crikey - not 6 months ago) based on this by Dominic Fifield in The Graun:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/18/qpr-tony-fernandes-relegation-ch
Including following direct quotes from TF:
“We’ve always been chasing and desperate to get back up, but this time we will just stick to our guns and get players who have longer-term vision,” said Fernandes, who appointed Les Ferdinand as director of football in February to oversee a more long-term strategy. “We’ll see how it goes from there. We’re feeling good, actually. It’s strange. We feel like after four years we are finally in the groove.
“Last time we went down I was a lot more tense about it. I was worried about a lot of things. And yet we still got through it, we got back up. This time we go down in a much stronger position, with a better structure in place and better solutions to pursue with what we want to do in the long term.”
“Apart from the legacy players — and most of their contracts have finished — every player has relegation clauses,” said Fernandes. “We’re wiser every time. We are in a much better position. The doom and gloom that everyone has been predicting is not that great [within the club].”
All seemed fairly reasonable given the circumstances and more or less in tune with my own views of this football club. Guess I should have known an outbreak of common sense wouldn't last. | | | |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 13:43 - Nov 11 with 1128 views | Mvpeter |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:11 - Nov 10 by adhoc_qpr |
Ramsey wasn't consolidating, he was sending out a team to try and win every week - but just failing to do so.
If he was consolidating, he'd have been playing a mixture of younger and older players, trying to build the core of a team that could be added to next season/January.
Instead he played Henry, Green, Hoillett, Konchesky, Sandro etc etc.
2 wins in 2 months was verging on relegation form though - so i'd say that Ramsey was failing at both stated objectives. |
People will claim that this was due to pressure from above but that is a smokescreen. The change in expectations occurred on October the 16th. At no point this season did Ramsey try to consolidate. My theory is that it's simply because he couldn't coach a team. Much easier to just Harry Redknapp it and send out 'good players' who know what they're doing already. | |
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| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 13:54 - Nov 11 with 1111 views | simmo |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 13:39 - Nov 11 by NorthKen |
Hear, hear! I revised my expectations back in May (crikey - not 6 months ago) based on this by Dominic Fifield in The Graun:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/18/qpr-tony-fernandes-relegation-ch
Including following direct quotes from TF:
“We’ve always been chasing and desperate to get back up, but this time we will just stick to our guns and get players who have longer-term vision,” said Fernandes, who appointed Les Ferdinand as director of football in February to oversee a more long-term strategy. “We’ll see how it goes from there. We’re feeling good, actually. It’s strange. We feel like after four years we are finally in the groove.
“Last time we went down I was a lot more tense about it. I was worried about a lot of things. And yet we still got through it, we got back up. This time we go down in a much stronger position, with a better structure in place and better solutions to pursue with what we want to do in the long term.”
“Apart from the legacy players — and most of their contracts have finished — every player has relegation clauses,” said Fernandes. “We’re wiser every time. We are in a much better position. The doom and gloom that everyone has been predicting is not that great [within the club].”
All seemed fairly reasonable given the circumstances and more or less in tune with my own views of this football club. Guess I should have known an outbreak of common sense wouldn't last. |
Ha ha! That article....
This 'we've learned our lessons' rhetoric must have been spouted 3-4 times by Fernandes. It's boring and obviously not true. |  |
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| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 13:56 - Nov 11 with 1110 views | Mvpeter |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:21 - Nov 10 by Northernr |
Fine, ok, yeh, you've made that point. Move beyond it and look forward - what are the expectations of the next manager? Do we (the fans) actually know? Does Fernandes and the board know?
The betting field for our manager sums it all up. There are experienced, inexperienced managers on there, lower league, Premier League, coaches and money spenders, promotion specialists and consolidators, long and short terms Nobody fcking knows what we're doing. |
Surely that point means that we can't write off the consolidation plan as unworkable at our club because we haven't actually got any evidence of us attempting it. I'm more than up for that especially now that it's the only realistic goal available to us. | |
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| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:02 - Nov 11 with 1101 views | Northernr |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 13:56 - Nov 11 by Mvpeter |
Surely that point means that we can't write off the consolidation plan as unworkable at our club because we haven't actually got any evidence of us attempting it. I'm more than up for that especially now that it's the only realistic goal available to us. |
So is that what we're going to attempt? Nobody knows. Fernandes has made several completely contradictory statements over the past six months. Not sure how you can hire a manager like this, and I'm absolutely sure you can't tell the supporters to manage their expectations while you're ramping them up and down yourself all the time.
Basically, what Simmo said above... |  | | |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:04 - Nov 11 with 1092 views | Mvpeter |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 13:54 - Nov 11 by simmo |
Ha ha! That article....
This 'we've learned our lessons' rhetoric must have been spouted 3-4 times by Fernandes. It's boring and obviously not true. |
I'm waiting for an admission of one lesson learnt in the four years. | |
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| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:05 - Nov 11 with 1090 views | Mvpeter |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:02 - Nov 11 by Northernr |
So is that what we're going to attempt? Nobody knows. Fernandes has made several completely contradictory statements over the past six months. Not sure how you can hire a manager like this, and I'm absolutely sure you can't tell the supporters to manage their expectations while you're ramping them up and down yourself all the time.
Basically, what Simmo said above... |
Oh preaching to the choir sir. | |
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| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:09 - Nov 11 with 1077 views | Northernr |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:05 - Nov 11 by Mvpeter |
Oh preaching to the choir sir. |
I know, we obviously don't agree on Ramsey but we certainly do on those above him. | | | |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:13 - Nov 11 with 1066 views | loftus77 |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 11:11 - Nov 11 by daveB |
It's all quite comical really. A week ago Ramsey was sacked for not living up to the boards expectations and a few days later it's the fans who expect too much. |
So will Tony now sack the fans then? Matches behind closed doors. Come back only if you expect no more than a 4-0 defeat to local rivals. | | | |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:13 - Nov 11 with 1064 views | SuffolkHoop |
“We’ll see how it goes from there. We’re feeling good, actually. It’s strange. We feel like after four years we are finally in the groove.
“Last time we went down I was a lot more tense about it. I was worried about a lot of things. And yet we still got through it, we got back up. This time we go down in a much stronger position, with a better structure in place and better solutions to pursue with what we want to do in the long term.”
This is from only a few months back and is obviously bullshit, cringeworthy to be honest.
Still wondering what Fernandes' "Harlington looking good" tweet from a few days ago actually means, maybe I'm missing the context with that one too. | | | |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:20 - Nov 11 with 1048 views | ade_qpr |
I'm managing my expectations quite well.
Now TF shut the fack up and manage yours.
Stop talking the talk and start walking the walk.
Start laying out plans for things like new manager, promotion, debt, Warren Farm, new stadiums etc in plain bloody english. With timetables if appropriate or a solid running commentary on where the club stands on these issues not shitter sound bites of PR puss.
On field results are important but off field far more so because if you don't get those right on field won't matter. For example Plain english about the debt, won't like waking up one morning and finding my club bankrupt, kaput. Thus how does that affect building Warren Farm or is that still a rabbit out of a hat.
I'm a member of the club so tell me why I should keep putting money in and following blindly if you can't manage or want to change your great expectations with every second snap chat.
Oh in case you were wondering my expectations is to get back to the premier league sooner rather than later but with a well balanced club that has either been built or has concrete foundations in place. Is that transparent enough you because you ain't so sort it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  |
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| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:21 - Nov 11 with 1040 views | JonDoeman |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:13 - Nov 11 by SuffolkHoop |
“We’ll see how it goes from there. We’re feeling good, actually. It’s strange. We feel like after four years we are finally in the groove.
“Last time we went down I was a lot more tense about it. I was worried about a lot of things. And yet we still got through it, we got back up. This time we go down in a much stronger position, with a better structure in place and better solutions to pursue with what we want to do in the long term.”
This is from only a few months back and is obviously bullshit, cringeworthy to be honest.
Still wondering what Fernandes' "Harlington looking good" tweet from a few days ago actually means, maybe I'm missing the context with that one too. |
Maybe the sun was out, & the birds were singing ? 
I see the appointment of Lee Hoos as a positive, & from his comments he obviously believes Warren Farm is a priority. | |
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| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:45 - Nov 11 with 1017 views | Mvpeter |
| Fernandes says we should manage expectations on 14:09 - Nov 11 by Northernr |
I know, we obviously don't agree on Ramsey but we certainly do on those above him. |
I'll bet we agree on his predecessor too. | |
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