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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! 11:37 - Jul 25 with 39753 viewsSpiritofGregory

Has anyone else on here been following the American election?

Trump has got all the lefties wound up with his no nonsense, unpolitically correct straight talking.

The Democrats have also got their own version on Corbyn who is rivalling Hilary Clinton.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 21:07 - May 4 with 2701 viewsMatch82

...but on topic, I'm terrified. Not a good time to be living in America, and my faith in the country not to vote an arrogant egomaniac to have his finger on the nuclear button has been somewhat shaken over the last few months
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 21:17 - May 4 with 2667 viewsitsbiga

Americans are angry and Trump gives them all the right boosheet to fuel that anger. Blame it on foreigners etc.. Dummies will vote for him in droves.
What Americans really are mad about is that capitalism is failing them badly and the government has been shafting them for years with propaganda about how USA is the best on the planet. A big swing is going to happen in this country. The 'american dream' people have been sold for decades is a bunch of crap and people are waking up to that.
https://www.google.com/search?q=good+citizens+don%27t+think&tbm=isch&imgil=rLkY5

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 21:30 - May 4 with 2644 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 21:04 - May 4 by Match82

Think I can help you with that. I suspect that at some point SoGs insane rambling got the best of you and patient as you are, you decided to employ the "Ignore" button. As this thread was started by said individual, you can't see it...


That could be it. I'm fairly sure I got bored into ignoring him alright.

Thanks, Match.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:01 - May 4 with 2601 viewsDoughnut

Hurrah for the Donald!! We've all had a belly full of lefty politics these last 20 years. Cant wait to see the faces of all those right-on smug luvvies in Westmintser who tried to ban him, when President trump makes an Official visit to the UK...what do you think they'll do..........???
Fall into line and 'kiss bottom' as usual, obviously.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:46 - May 4 with 2565 views1BobbyHazell

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:01 - May 4 by Doughnut

Hurrah for the Donald!! We've all had a belly full of lefty politics these last 20 years. Cant wait to see the faces of all those right-on smug luvvies in Westmintser who tried to ban him, when President trump makes an Official visit to the UK...what do you think they'll do..........???
Fall into line and 'kiss bottom' as usual, obviously.


Who are the "right-on luvvies in Westminster"?

Genuine question.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:58 - May 4 with 2537 viewskensalriser

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:01 - May 4 by Doughnut

Hurrah for the Donald!! We've all had a belly full of lefty politics these last 20 years. Cant wait to see the faces of all those right-on smug luvvies in Westmintser who tried to ban him, when President trump makes an Official visit to the UK...what do you think they'll do..........???
Fall into line and 'kiss bottom' as usual, obviously.


Lefty politics? We haven't had a left wing government since the 70s!

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:00 - May 4 with 2539 viewsDannytheR

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:01 - May 4 by Doughnut

Hurrah for the Donald!! We've all had a belly full of lefty politics these last 20 years. Cant wait to see the faces of all those right-on smug luvvies in Westmintser who tried to ban him, when President trump makes an Official visit to the UK...what do you think they'll do..........???
Fall into line and 'kiss bottom' as usual, obviously.


Who's we?
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:18 - May 4 with 2514 viewsOakR

There is a definite dislike at present of the stats quo of politics in general across many countries. It got Corbyn into Labour, and got Trump to lead the republicans. The last election here was almost a vote for who was the 'least worst' candidate party.

The worrying thing in the US, is things have gone so badly someone like Trump can be seen as the saviour. Lots of soundbites about making things better, fixing this and that, but a total and utter complete lack of detail as to how to achieve any of it, even if we ignore his inflammatory speeches that are depressing to the core. It's been evident for along time he had a great chance of being the republican nominee, but I always thought he had no chance of the presidency, but am getting more nervous about that. I still retain my faith that the majority of people in most countries and decent people, and he therefore won't get in. He's like a right-wing Diane Abbot - spouting off crap at all times with no reasoning or evidence, being lapped up by the extremes of those on the far end of each party, but you hope most people can recognise the total drivel coming out of each of their mouths.

I can only hope I have a monster raving loony party candidate to vote for.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:23 - May 4 with 2506 viewsMatch82

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:18 - May 4 by OakR

There is a definite dislike at present of the stats quo of politics in general across many countries. It got Corbyn into Labour, and got Trump to lead the republicans. The last election here was almost a vote for who was the 'least worst' candidate party.

The worrying thing in the US, is things have gone so badly someone like Trump can be seen as the saviour. Lots of soundbites about making things better, fixing this and that, but a total and utter complete lack of detail as to how to achieve any of it, even if we ignore his inflammatory speeches that are depressing to the core. It's been evident for along time he had a great chance of being the republican nominee, but I always thought he had no chance of the presidency, but am getting more nervous about that. I still retain my faith that the majority of people in most countries and decent people, and he therefore won't get in. He's like a right-wing Diane Abbot - spouting off crap at all times with no reasoning or evidence, being lapped up by the extremes of those on the far end of each party, but you hope most people can recognise the total drivel coming out of each of their mouths.

I can only hope I have a monster raving loony party candidate to vote for.


Weirdly, he's not actually THAT right wing. Ted Cruz was, and arguably crazier than Trump. Although I suspect he'll strongly move to the right as the election comes up.

The "complete lack of detail" is completely and utterly spot on though. And that's what's worrying , that his supporters seem totally oblivious to the fact he hasn't provided any specifics.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:42 - May 4 with 2481 viewsdaveB

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:18 - May 4 by OakR

There is a definite dislike at present of the stats quo of politics in general across many countries. It got Corbyn into Labour, and got Trump to lead the republicans. The last election here was almost a vote for who was the 'least worst' candidate party.

The worrying thing in the US, is things have gone so badly someone like Trump can be seen as the saviour. Lots of soundbites about making things better, fixing this and that, but a total and utter complete lack of detail as to how to achieve any of it, even if we ignore his inflammatory speeches that are depressing to the core. It's been evident for along time he had a great chance of being the republican nominee, but I always thought he had no chance of the presidency, but am getting more nervous about that. I still retain my faith that the majority of people in most countries and decent people, and he therefore won't get in. He's like a right-wing Diane Abbot - spouting off crap at all times with no reasoning or evidence, being lapped up by the extremes of those on the far end of each party, but you hope most people can recognise the total drivel coming out of each of their mouths.

I can only hope I have a monster raving loony party candidate to vote for.


Totally agree, he gives no detail. Keeps saying I'll deal with ISIS when asked how he says I can't tell you now. He has no bloody idea how to deal with them and to promise he will wipe them out in days shows he has no idea what he is dealing with.

How he has got this far is ridiculous, if he gets in the world is fecked
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:53 - May 4 with 2464 viewsPunteR

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:42 - May 4 by daveB

Totally agree, he gives no detail. Keeps saying I'll deal with ISIS when asked how he says I can't tell you now. He has no bloody idea how to deal with them and to promise he will wipe them out in days shows he has no idea what he is dealing with.

How he has got this far is ridiculous, if he gets in the world is fecked


Isnt it already Dave?

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:55 - May 4 with 2468 viewsDeepcutHoop

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:23 - May 4 by Match82

Weirdly, he's not actually THAT right wing. Ted Cruz was, and arguably crazier than Trump. Although I suspect he'll strongly move to the right as the election comes up.

The "complete lack of detail" is completely and utterly spot on though. And that's what's worrying , that his supporters seem totally oblivious to the fact he hasn't provided any specifics.


This tbf

He's more likely to start start tailoring his speeches back towards the centre now. Basically he'll say whatever he needs to to get the votes. None of it necessarily will be consistent with what he said in the past, or what he will say or do in the future.

Thus far he's appealed to the staunch republican base, as they were the one's he needed for the primaries.

Mind-boggling that the two candidates for president are so absolutely hated by so many people. How has that happened ffs?
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 00:42 - May 5 with 2453 viewsHitch

He cheats at golf. What a man of honour, integrity and higher learning. Has the world gone mad.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 01:06 - May 5 with 2426 viewsPunteR

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 00:42 - May 5 by Hitch

He cheats at golf. What a man of honour, integrity and higher learning. Has the world gone mad.


"has the world gone mad ?"

Yes.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 06:59 - May 5 with 2384 viewsstevec

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:58 - May 4 by kensalriser

Lefty politics? We haven't had a left wing government since the 70s!


Yeah, I can still remember the streets piled high with rubbish.

Truth is the left has not seeked to get elected, they knew back then it was a non starter in the UK.
As such they've spent the last 40 years working up through the unelected part of the system to hold the real keys to power.

From student unions, teachers unions, civil service, police force, public office they have self promoted those of common interest to hold all the real, the unelected power. That was their aim, and they achieved it. And that is why they want us to remain in the EU.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 08:42 - May 5 with 2304 viewspaulparker

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:58 - May 4 by kensalriser

Lefty politics? We haven't had a left wing government since the 70s!


your obviously forgetting Blair's & Browns reign of terror ,
or is it your way of saying Blair and his cronies were right wing ?

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 08:47 - May 5 with 2298 views1BobbyHazell

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 06:59 - May 5 by stevec

Yeah, I can still remember the streets piled high with rubbish.

Truth is the left has not seeked to get elected, they knew back then it was a non starter in the UK.
As such they've spent the last 40 years working up through the unelected part of the system to hold the real keys to power.

From student unions, teachers unions, civil service, police force, public office they have self promoted those of common interest to hold all the real, the unelected power. That was their aim, and they achieved it. And that is why they want us to remain in the EU.


And there was me thinking it was the central banking system and huge multinational corporations that hold all the real unelected power. Turns out it's the student and teacher's unions!!

Brilliant.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 08:59 - May 5 with 2285 viewsDannytheR

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 06:59 - May 5 by stevec

Yeah, I can still remember the streets piled high with rubbish.

Truth is the left has not seeked to get elected, they knew back then it was a non starter in the UK.
As such they've spent the last 40 years working up through the unelected part of the system to hold the real keys to power.

From student unions, teachers unions, civil service, police force, public office they have self promoted those of common interest to hold all the real, the unelected power. That was their aim, and they achieved it. And that is why they want us to remain in the EU.


The left are in control of the police force?

Did they all have a big meeting to discuss this grand conspiracy some time in the late 1970s? Must have been murder ordering the biscuits.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 09:28 - May 5 with 2250 viewsBrianMcCarthy

So, let me get this straight - the left have stopped trying to be elected but there are still somehow lefty politicians all the same but they are frauds because they don't represent the working classes they represent the elite and they also represent the student unions who run the world and now they have all the power and they want to stay in the EU because the EU have the power and with all this in mind everybody should vote Trump.

No, no, that's perfectly clear. Where do I sign?

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 09:32 - May 5 with 2248 viewsstevec

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 08:47 - May 5 by 1BobbyHazell

And there was me thinking it was the central banking system and huge multinational corporations that hold all the real unelected power. Turns out it's the student and teacher's unions!!

Brilliant.


I agree about banking systems and multinational corporations, though I was talking more about national politics rather than global.

UK governments (like most in Europe) get accused of all being the same but, be it Labour or Tory, it proves virtually impossible to make radical change specifically because the power of the left in public office continually does everything it can to block change. I agree entirely too, that central banking systems play a huge part in this.

Maybe that's a good thing but I believe people are getting more and more disenchanted with this unelected elite, be it multinationals or bureaucrats, feeling any power they did have has literally disappeared.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 16:50 - May 5 with 2144 viewsMonkey_Roots

Isn't this somewhat how the Nazi's got in - disenfranchised people looking for a solution, the only one that sounds different, with radical ideas, promising action to a nation who feel have lost their way in the world - make America great again!
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:11 - May 5 with 2099 viewsRSoul

Only in America, can a freemason multi billionaire be anti establishment.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:24 - May 5 with 2079 viewsDiscodroids



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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:02 - May 5 with 1970 viewseasthertsr

The idea that a self-regarding , wealth-inherited, woman - hating, racist, narcissist ,incompetent businessman could be elected president is funny , is truly frightening. The man is a total pr1ck , it's just a shame that so many Americans are as thick as sh1t to vote for him.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 23:48 - May 5 with 1945 viewsQPR_Jim

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 09:32 - May 5 by stevec

I agree about banking systems and multinational corporations, though I was talking more about national politics rather than global.

UK governments (like most in Europe) get accused of all being the same but, be it Labour or Tory, it proves virtually impossible to make radical change specifically because the power of the left in public office continually does everything it can to block change. I agree entirely too, that central banking systems play a huge part in this.

Maybe that's a good thing but I believe people are getting more and more disenchanted with this unelected elite, be it multinationals or bureaucrats, feeling any power they did have has literally disappeared.


"proves virtually impossible to make radical change specifically because the power of the left in public office continually does everything it can to block change."

Wouldn't the simplest explanation be that most elected governments now days occupy the centre ground in order to get votes, so they promise watered down left or right policies and generally keep most things the same through fear of upsetting the apple cart?

Edit: How can you say unions have been hijacked by the left moving into positions of power, they are fundamentally socialist movements so always were that way, it's not a conspiracy. It's a bit like when people claim that BBC staff are all labour only to find out that half were in the young conservatives.
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