| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 16:49 - Apr 15 with 3724 views | TacticalR |
A serial entrepreneur. |  |
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| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 18:37 - Apr 15 with 3569 views | PunteR |
It cant be a coincidence. |  |
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| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 18:47 - Apr 15 with 3541 views | Northernr |
Amazing. How on earth doesn't that come to light at the time?! |  | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 20:15 - Apr 15 with 3442 views | AndyB |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 18:47 - Apr 15 by Northernr |
Amazing. How on earth doesn't that come to light at the time?! |
Might want to reword that |  | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 21:35 - Apr 15 with 3333 views | bosh67 |
Just read that and horrifying if true. |  |
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| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 22:50 - Apr 15 with 3223 views | HollowayRanger |
possible
but more than likely just the act of a smoker tossing away a fag end which droped though a gap down onto tons of rubbish ,samel as at kings cross a few years later |  |
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| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 22:54 - Apr 15 with 3217 views | rsonist |
The consistency does seem ridiculous in 2015's hindsight but I would sound a note of caution in that fires were genuinely a pretty common occurrence taking into account the nature of the premises concerned and safety standards of the time. And it's impossible to argue that the Valley Parade stand wasn't an enormous fire hazard in the state it was in - it was already condemned for demolition in fact.
Still, sobering evidence. |  | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 23:00 - Apr 15 with 3207 views | Lblock |
To this day the single most shocking H&S film I've ever seen.
If you watched that, in Bradford, with one of the responding fire crews as part of an IOSHH course and didn't pay attention to fire safety after then you'd have to have zero IQ.
His first hand account as we watched the footage real time was and still is truly sobering
If any criminal involvement then humanity sinks lower... |  |
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| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 23:01 - Apr 15 with 3207 views | MrSheen |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 22:54 - Apr 15 by rsonist |
The consistency does seem ridiculous in 2015's hindsight but I would sound a note of caution in that fires were genuinely a pretty common occurrence taking into account the nature of the premises concerned and safety standards of the time. And it's impossible to argue that the Valley Parade stand wasn't an enormous fire hazard in the state it was in - it was already condemned for demolition in fact.
Still, sobering evidence. |
His research was based on reading back numbers of the local paper. There's no way the local journalists wouldn't have picked up the story at the time to try and make a name for themselves. In any case, Heginbotham would have been setting himself alight too, unless it could be shown that he had absented himself from the main stand. It might be possible, but I'm sure it would have been considered at the time. i read that there were newspapers and fag packets from the 1960s in the rubbish under the stands. |  | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 23:28 - Apr 15 with 3161 views | dsr_burnley |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 18:37 - Apr 15 by PunteR |
It cant be a coincidence. |
Eight fires done in the middle of the night with insurance receipts making personal profits for Heginbotham. And one done on TV in full view of the press with maximum loss of life and no possible profit for Heginbotham. To me, the first 8 may well be suspicious and not coincidental; but not the ninth. It's too much different.
He could have burned the stand down in the middle of the night, or even half an hour after the match. Horrible coincidence for me, accompanied by negligence to the point where a manslaughter charge should perhaps have been made. |  | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 23:32 - Apr 15 with 3154 views | Northernr |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 23:28 - Apr 15 by dsr_burnley |
Eight fires done in the middle of the night with insurance receipts making personal profits for Heginbotham. And one done on TV in full view of the press with maximum loss of life and no possible profit for Heginbotham. To me, the first 8 may well be suspicious and not coincidental; but not the ninth. It's too much different.
He could have burned the stand down in the middle of the night, or even half an hour after the match. Horrible coincidence for me, accompanied by negligence to the point where a manslaughter charge should perhaps have been made. |
Talking about this over dinner tonight people said similar, but then if the stand had simply burned down after the game there would have been no legitimate excuse for it doing so. The opening of the exits earlier than usual is sus. | | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 00:54 - Apr 16 with 3103 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Whether this is true or not, this will be terrible for the survivors and the families. Thoughts are with them. |  |
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| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 01:34 - Apr 16 with 3080 views | dsr_burnley |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 23:32 - Apr 15 by Northernr |
Talking about this over dinner tonight people said similar, but then if the stand had simply burned down after the game there would have been no legitimate excuse for it doing so. The opening of the exits earlier than usual is sus. |
A cigarette smouldering for half an hour could have caused a fire. Or he could rig up an electrical fault - a man with his supposed experience of starting fires and getting away with it would surely have had little trouble in a tinderbox like that stand. That sort of fire leaves little evidence. | | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 01:40 - Apr 16 with 3077 views | kensalriser |
It's probably very difficult to anticipate how quickly a fire will take hold and the extent to which it reaches.
How many other firest were there in old wooden stands in the years and decades before this?
I'm not a great believer in coincidence. |  |
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| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 07:32 - Apr 16 with 2989 views | PunteR |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 23:28 - Apr 15 by dsr_burnley |
Eight fires done in the middle of the night with insurance receipts making personal profits for Heginbotham. And one done on TV in full view of the press with maximum loss of life and no possible profit for Heginbotham. To me, the first 8 may well be suspicious and not coincidental; but not the ninth. It's too much different.
He could have burned the stand down in the middle of the night, or even half an hour after the match. Horrible coincidence for me, accompanied by negligence to the point where a manslaughter charge should perhaps have been made. |
Anyone of those fires could have killed someone,if the first 8 were started as insurance jobs.
I don't know all the details,just what I've read here but it doesn't look good. | |
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| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 08:54 - Apr 16 with 2917 views | MrSheen |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 23:32 - Apr 15 by Northernr |
Talking about this over dinner tonight people said similar, but then if the stand had simply burned down after the game there would have been no legitimate excuse for it doing so. The opening of the exits earlier than usual is sus. |
Weren't some of the emergency exits chained shut?
Just checked on WIkipedia, and the largest numbers of dead were found at a locked exit. | | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 17:13 - Apr 16 with 2780 views | TGRRRSSS |
If it happened say an hour after the game then they could have said maybe a cigarette caught alight slowly etc.
Not read the book obv (maybe I will) but I had heared about stuff dating back years and years under their.
The sad thing is nobody will ever know I don't imagine for sure 30 years after the fact. |  | | |
| Anyone else seen this? Bradford fire looks like it may have been arson... on 20:21 - Apr 16 with 2695 views | paulparker |
Needs a new enquiry and quick
The people of Bradford have acted with dignity for 30 years , they deserve the truth |  |
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