| George Osbourne on 18:46 - Jan 14 with 1140 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| George Osbourne on 17:19 - Jan 14 by veritas |
Exactly.
For Swansea to get out of poverty it needs to more economically dynamic, you can't rely on the State it is unsustainable.
Tommy has perfectly illustrated my point about voting for the same over and over again. Just chuck some more money at the problem, not look at lasting change.
It's like putting a sticking plaster on when you need surgery. |
That post is a load of nonsense for I have said nothing of who I vote for and nothing of the sort to say chuck money at any thing .
You are making things up right infront of your & every ones eyes . |  |
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| George Osbourne on 18:47 - Jan 14 with 1136 views | veritas |
| George Osbourne on 18:46 - Jan 14 by oh_tommy_tommy |
That post is a load of nonsense for I have said nothing of who I vote for and nothing of the sort to say chuck money at any thing .
You are making things up right infront of your & every ones eyes . |
I've read your posts, you are firmly on the left. |  | | |
| George Osbourne on 19:07 - Jan 14 with 1113 views | exiledclaseboy |
| George Osbourne on 18:46 - Jan 14 by oh_tommy_tommy |
That post is a load of nonsense for I have said nothing of who I vote for and nothing of the sort to say chuck money at any thing .
You are making things up right infront of your & every ones eyes . |
You'll have to forgive Veritas. Despite his protestations, he's as firmly stuck with in old-school left/right politics as anyone on here. It's his view that if you are of "the left" you are an unthinking sheep. He's demonstrated that amply in the few days he's been back. |  |
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| George Osbourne on 19:41 - Jan 14 with 1099 views | mbl1966 |
| George Osbourne on 19:07 - Jan 14 by exiledclaseboy |
You'll have to forgive Veritas. Despite his protestations, he's as firmly stuck with in old-school left/right politics as anyone on here. It's his view that if you are of "the left" you are an unthinking sheep. He's demonstrated that amply in the few days he's been back. |
Whoever you vote for the bastard government always gets in!
I have always voted Labour (hands up!) but have never needed to join a union. Can't see who I will vote for this time as I am one of a growing number of voters who just considers most politicians to be an utter waste of time. Bastards the lot of them. I can't bring myself to vote Conservative (the true Eton Mess) or UKIP (the Neo Neo Nazis) or the LibDems (hmmmm) but the Labour Party seem equally sh1t!
Our ancestors fought too hard for too long to be allowed, by the Establishment, to vote. So I MUST vote for someone.......but who........confused.
The only way to prosperity for Wales is to improve some really crap infrastructure. So it most definitely does come down to money I'm afraid. | |
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| George Osbourne on 01:55 - Jan 15 with 1069 views | veritas |
That's utter nonsense I'm happy to 'debate' with people from whatever persuasion if they put over a considered argument what I can't deal with is just lazy profanity and untruths e.g the deficit is apparently increasing - please explain this rather than saying it then jut ignoring my question. I'll happily argue issues related to the size of the state, public v private etc. I just find it tedious and depressing the way some jut drift into the usual platitudes and yes it does make people look like unthinking sheep. Look at Lohengrin - a classic example of someone who is well researched and whether you agree or disagree he actually has something to say. | | | |
| George Osbourne on 13:31 - Jan 15 with 1037 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| George Osbourne on 01:55 - Jan 15 by veritas |
That's utter nonsense I'm happy to 'debate' with people from whatever persuasion if they put over a considered argument what I can't deal with is just lazy profanity and untruths e.g the deficit is apparently increasing - please explain this rather than saying it then jut ignoring my question. I'll happily argue issues related to the size of the state, public v private etc. I just find it tedious and depressing the way some jut drift into the usual platitudes and yes it does make people look like unthinking sheep. Look at Lohengrin - a classic example of someone who is well researched and whether you agree or disagree he actually has something to say. |
There you go my friend
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/11168941/Why-are-we-still-failing-to-reduce-t
Know let's not detract from the original OP . [Post edited 15 Jan 2015 14:23]
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| George Osbourne on 13:44 - Jan 15 with 1035 views | Uxbridge |
| George Osbourne on 06:56 - Jan 14 by dgt73 |
If inflation had gone up you'd be blaming him, so therefore he should get some credit for the drop in inflation and nowhere in that link does he claim to be responsible for cheaper oil and food. [Post edited 14 Jan 2015 6:57]
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He claims to be responsible for low inflation, when the figure has become low due to the global drop in oil prices. If inflation was higher then he'd need shooting ... actually there's an idea .... |  |
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| George Osbourne on 13:51 - Jan 15 with 1034 views | Uxbridge |
| George Osbourne on 17:04 - Jan 14 by exiledclaseboy |
I live in Swansea and I don't agree with Veritas. Not that this will be a surprise to him. I fear for the future of the UK if we get five more years of Osborne and Cameron. Especially with a parliamentary majority, as thankfully unlikely as that is.
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I'm glad you're confident. I've got absolutely no idea how this election is going to go. It's an absolute bunfight. I can see a scenario where the big 2 fail to even get 60% of the popular vote, but will undoubtedly end up with 90% of the seats. Even Ashcroft hasn't got a clue but he's right that there are a whole host of seats which are just impossible to call. I think I may need to pay more attention to the numbers.
Looking forward to the election anyway. They're always good fun, especially on here. | |
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| George Osbourne on 14:15 - Jan 15 with 1026 views | Lord_Bony |
I won't be voting for any of them.
I have not the slightest interest,those slime balls have put me off for life.I really dislike them all.
I ll sit this election out on the touch lines thankyou..
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| George Osbourne on 14:30 - Jan 15 with 1013 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| George Osbourne on 14:15 - Jan 15 by Lord_Bony |
I won't be voting for any of them.
I have not the slightest interest,those slime balls have put me off for life.I really dislike them all.
I ll sit this election out on the touch lines thankyou..
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I am surprised at that because you are very good at discussing all sorts on here.
I know where you are coming from though , don't give in to them find an alternative vote . | |
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| George Osbourne on 14:42 - Jan 15 with 1010 views | Lord_Bony |
| George Osbourne on 14:30 - Jan 15 by oh_tommy_tommy |
I am surprised at that because you are very good at discussing all sorts on here.
I know where you are coming from though , don't give in to them find an alternative vote . |
It s not that though mate...I genuinely am apolitical these days,I'm done with this charade we have to go throug every few years,I ll just go with the flow whoever gets in it won t make a jot of difference to my life.
When I was younger I was a staunch Labour supporter even of the radical left.But as time went on and I could see with my own eyes the lying,cheating,back biting sycophants that make up the pyramid structure of these parties I realised they are just people putting themselves first,everyone else second regardless how much they gloss it up.
What finally sickened me about the Labour Party was Tony Blair and his government jumping into bed with the far right war hawks of the Bush Adiministration over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ....don t get me started on that one....I can honestly say that finished any respect I had for the integrity of the Labour Party.
There is no one I really like in politics these days except a small few...
I refuse on voting day to vote for someone I don't believe in...
As a well known person here once said. "feck 'em"... [Post edited 15 Jan 2015 14:46]
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| George Osbourne on 16:16 - Jan 15 with 994 views | veritas |
There's a big difference between saying the deficit is not coming down as quickly as forecast initially and saying it's increasing.
When the coalition came to office in the last year of labour we borrowed 160bn more than we raised in tax as a proportion of GDP the deficit was over 10% of National income it is not around 5% of National income we're now borrowing around 90bn per annum. That is still way too high and that's the reason for the article.
The deficit is not 'increasing' it has fallen every year under the coalition just not as fast as they would initially have liked | | | |
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