| Additional Players? 10:55 - Aug 6 with 4872 views | coolranger |
So with Jordon Mutch joining us I just wondered what other players everybody thinks we need ?
IF Remy was to agree a new deal, then perhaps we would still need one additional striker. If he moves then I think we might need two more strikers.
I'm hoping we will get Mauricio Isla. Aside from him, our defensive options look good enough until January at least.
Midfield is stacked but we lack a creative force, then again it depends on Taarabt's situation.
So, one creative midfielder (assuming Taarabt moves), two strikers (assuming Remy moves) and Isla.
Agree?
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| Additional Players? on 11:02 - Aug 6 with 3976 views | MedwayR |
Depends on the formation we use but assuming Isla signs & Remy stays I think we need 2x CM's. I'd be happy to sign up Collison as a squad player (anyone know if he's still training with us?) and get in Holtby/Fer or similar. Another striker would be a bonus, even if it's a loan just to give us options & additional cover.
GK: Green / Murphy
RWB: Isla / Simpson
CB: Onouha / Donaldson
SW: Ferdinand / Dunne
CB: Caulker / Hill
LWB: Traore / Yun
CM: Barton / Henry
CM: Mutch / Collison?
CM: ? / Faurlin
AM: Hoilett / Phillips / Taarabt?
CF: Remy / Austin / Zamora |  |
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| Additional Players? on 11:15 - Aug 6 with 3927 views | ItalianR |
Let's try and count them, to get to the 25 (my understanding is that U21 players as of 1st January 2014 don't have to be registered in the 25, correct?):
keepers: 2 (Green, Murphy)
defenders: 9 (Simpson, Yun, Dunne, Hill, Onouha, Ferdinand, Caulker, Traore, Isla)
midfielders: 6 (Barton, Faurlin, Mutch, Henry, Hoillet, Phillips)
strikers: 2 (Austin, Zamora)
not having to make the 25: donaldson, sutherland, petrasso, harriman, the young keeper
That brings us to 19, and there are 6 spots left. I seriously hope one won't go to SWP, and I fear 2 won't go to Remy and Taraabt even though I get wet only thinking of the possibility.
So, 6 spots, I would say a creative midfielder (maybe two), one holding midfielder and three strikers. And no SWP. Or Julio Cesar, for that matters. | | | |
| Additional Players? on 11:16 - Aug 6 with 3921 views | CFW |
We have to assume Isla is in the bag and if so agree re defence. In the pre-season matches I watched totally agree re creativity especially in the final third. We do not have anyone who can open up a team from that position although I think Mutch could be used in that role and Hoilett looks quite useful when left to roam.
I personally would like to see us add Fer to the team, he would be a very good signing and investment plus bring much needed young legs to the side. Great cover for Barton or could play with him.
Think Adel will go but now not sure about Remy - he just might be tempted. Charlie is un tested at this level and might struggle so we do require another striker. Please not Crouch especially after all the good work we have put into the transfers we have made to date. It would be Deeney for me or Hooper at a push. | | | |
| Additional Players? on 11:20 - Aug 6 with 3910 views | MerthyrHoop |
I would suggest we are an athletic defensive midfielder and a striker away from having a decent squad for a relegation battle or pushing for mid-table.
Once Isla signs, I would suggest Leroy Fer (although Bentaleb on loan would be great if Fer going to Southampton allows Schneiderlein to get his move) would be next, and I would love to see Crouch back to supplement Remy & Austin. If Taarabt leaves I would expect we would look at a loan to replace him, then I guess we would splash the cash if Remy goes elsewhere too.
As it stands, a first and second XI could look like this:
Green
Onuoha, Ferdinand, Caulker
Isla, Barton, ?????, Traore
Mutch
Austin, Remy
Murphy
Simpson, Dunne, Hill
Phillips, Henry, Faurlin, Yun
Hoilett
Zamora, ?????
Add Joe Lumley (not sure what the deal is with Julio Cesar any more), Taarabt and SWP to that list and that's your 25 man squad | | | |
| Additional Players? on 11:39 - Aug 6 with 3835 views | coolranger |
I think Harry may very well play the loan market to secure the final couple of pieces in the jigsaw. My worry re Remy and Taarabt is how they may create possible friction within what appears to be a pretty happy group right now which will not tolerate prima donnas.
If they stay they will need to change their ways, perhaps Remy will, but Adel I'm not so sure. Still, that's a management issue.
From what I saw last year the recurring negatives were ;
1. lack of pace across most of the side
2. a very obvious lack of creativity, ie: VERY seldom did you see any player beat 2-3 opponents to open the game up or make a real killer pass that the recipient was able to use (we were sluggish and predictable for much of the season)
3. a lack of creative movement off the ball, to create passing channels
Solid defence, good team spirit, decent midfield work rate and Charlie's goals by and large got us home. That alone in the Premier League will not be enough, which we all know.
Isla, one or two creative midfielders and a couple of hungry young strikers - all assumes Remy and Taarabt move on. | | | |
| Additional Players? on 12:29 - Aug 6 with 3698 views | DANRANGER |
Ideally Remy stays, signs a new deal with more favourable clauses to us and then look for a striker on loan if we cannot secure any of the options Harry has pinpointed.
Defence is sorted but Central midfield needs strengthening. Links to Carlos Sanchez and Leroy Fer seem to be dragging on but these 2 would be great additions and Sanchez stood out in the world cup and does the job karl Henry tries to do.
so far so good though and feel the new formation will suit Junior hoilett in a free role. He still frustrates but if he just shows a bit more desire he could be a real force this season in the no. 10 role. he now has Mutch to compete with centrally and can't see a wing back option for him so unless we go an adventurous 3-4-3 his positions are limited. |  | | |
| Additional Players? on 12:35 - Aug 6 with 3665 views | derbyhoop |
I make it 22 but that includes Ehmer, Adel, Loc Remy and Shite Phillips.
I haven't included César.
still light on numbers.
Evenif Remy is included, I'd like to see another striker. There's nothing at Eds level. |  |
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| Additional Players? on 12:37 - Aug 6 with 3656 views | CFW |
| Additional Players? on 12:35 - Aug 6 by derbyhoop |
I make it 22 but that includes Ehmer, Adel, Loc Remy and Shite Phillips.
I haven't included César.
still light on numbers.
Evenif Remy is included, I'd like to see another striker. There's nothing at Eds level. |
Do you think Javier Hernandez from Man U perhaps on loan is a bridge too far?? | | | |
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| Additional Players? on 12:40 - Aug 6 with 3645 views | Maggsinho |
| Additional Players? on 12:37 - Aug 6 by CFW |
Do you think Javier Hernandez from Man U perhaps on loan is a bridge too far?? |
He turned down a move to Southampton so doubt he'd fancy it here.
I reckon we'll still sign Deeney, regardless of Remy staying or not. |  | | |
| Additional Players? on 13:05 - Aug 6 with 3555 views | Hooparoo |
| Additional Players? on 12:37 - Aug 6 by CFW |
Do you think Javier Hernandez from Man U perhaps on loan is a bridge too far?? |
Get his old pal Rio to have a word. Christ, imagine Hernandez and Remy lining up with Junior and Mutch supplying the bullets. Now that would be fun!  |  |
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| Additional Players? on 13:05 - Aug 6 with 3552 views | DANRANGER |
| Additional Players? on 12:37 - Aug 6 by CFW |
Do you think Javier Hernandez from Man U perhaps on loan is a bridge too far?? |
He will have many more options than us should Man U want him out. We are more your Jesse Lingard or James Wilson material and we've been burned before with Macheda and Keane so not sure that's the way to go.
Below are the top scorers in the Championship last year and the only real options left are Rhodes and Deeney and the figures mentioned seem extreme. Grabban looks a good buy for Norwich for around 3m. Therefore if we don't have 10m then going foreign is the option.
Ross McCormack Leeds United 28
Jordan Rhodes Blackburn 25
Troy Deeney Watford 24
Lewis Grabban Bournemouth 22
Danny Ings Burnley 21
Sam Vokes Burnley 20
Chris Martin Derby County 20
David Nugent Leicester City 20
Charlie Austin QPR 17
Craig Bryson Derby County 16
Jamie Vardy Leicester City 16
Chris O'Grady Barnsley 15 | | | |
| Additional Players? on 13:28 - Aug 6 with 3453 views | QPunkR |
| Additional Players? on 13:05 - Aug 6 by DANRANGER |
He will have many more options than us should Man U want him out. We are more your Jesse Lingard or James Wilson material and we've been burned before with Macheda and Keane so not sure that's the way to go.
Below are the top scorers in the Championship last year and the only real options left are Rhodes and Deeney and the figures mentioned seem extreme. Grabban looks a good buy for Norwich for around 3m. Therefore if we don't have 10m then going foreign is the option.
Ross McCormack Leeds United 28
Jordan Rhodes Blackburn 25
Troy Deeney Watford 24
Lewis Grabban Bournemouth 22
Danny Ings Burnley 21
Sam Vokes Burnley 20
Chris Martin Derby County 20
David Nugent Leicester City 20
Charlie Austin QPR 17
Craig Bryson Derby County 16
Jamie Vardy Leicester City 16
Chris O'Grady Barnsley 15 |
Agree. We'd all prefer to sign younger Engrish players (like we have managed with Caulker and Mutch) but the price has got to be right. The numbers flying around for Rhodes - and more particularly - for Deeney are far far above their actual worth, and so looking abroad looks a better option |  |
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| Additional Players? on 13:32 - Aug 6 with 3437 views | baz_qpr |
A keeper, a striker a number 10 minimum. Assuming Cesar goes we cant have a situation where Murphy is the only back up to Green |  | | |
| Additional Players? on 14:03 - Aug 6 with 3368 views | coolranger |
Always been a fan of Scandinavian players. They are less pricey and adapt easily to English conditions and our leagues.
Might be time to fly a Scandinavian flag in our search for a young striker. Also good for our many Scandinavian supporters. | | | |
| Additional Players? on 14:26 - Aug 6 with 3289 views | adhoc_qpr |
If we get Fer (or another midfielder) and keep Remy, we'll probably be OK.
If i was being greedy, i'd also want:
A striker capable of playing as a lone front man to back up/challenge Austin.
A playmaker/number10 type midfielder to help resolve our lack of creativity (although Adel can fill this role if he stays and plays)
A quality left wing back as Traore is always out with niggles and Yun promising but unproven. | | | |
| Additional Players? on 15:20 - Aug 6 with 3221 views | CFW |
| Additional Players? on 14:26 - Aug 6 by adhoc_qpr |
If we get Fer (or another midfielder) and keep Remy, we'll probably be OK.
If i was being greedy, i'd also want:
A striker capable of playing as a lone front man to back up/challenge Austin.
A playmaker/number10 type midfielder to help resolve our lack of creativity (although Adel can fill this role if he stays and plays)
A quality left wing back as Traore is always out with niggles and Yun promising but unproven. |
Agree except not sure about Adel if we keep him - selfish bastard and not sure he would be great at opening up opportunities for his fellow team mates. It is all about him. | | | |
| Additional Players? on 15:28 - Aug 6 with 3209 views | BlackCrowe |
Whatever happened to that Icelandic player from Ajax we were strongly linked with. Has that died or just all gone quiet (over there, and there, and there)? |  |
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| Additional Players? on 15:37 - Aug 6 with 3182 views | derbyhoop |
| Additional Players? on 13:32 - Aug 6 by baz_qpr |
A keeper, a striker a number 10 minimum. Assuming Cesar goes we cant have a situation where Murphy is the only back up to Green |
Murphy isn't the only backup to Green
Joe Lumley is, imho, on a par. | |
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| Additional Players? on 15:45 - Aug 6 with 3155 views | QPunkR |
| Additional Players? on 15:37 - Aug 6 by derbyhoop |
Murphy isn't the only backup to Green
Joe Lumley is, imho, on a par. |
Yes, but you forget he's one of our young players. Means he has no chance of gametime no matter what. | |
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| Additional Players? on 16:39 - Aug 6 with 2999 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Additional Players? on 15:28 - Aug 6 by BlackCrowe |
Whatever happened to that Icelandic player from Ajax we were strongly linked with. Has that died or just all gone quiet (over there, and there, and there)? |
Fee was agreed but seems to have stalled on personal terms.
His agent/brother said the other day it's unlikely and they haven't spoken to QPR for weeks or words to that effect. | | | |
| Additional Players? on 17:41 - Aug 6 with 2877 views | kensalriser |
| Additional Players? on 16:39 - Aug 6 by adhoc_qpr |
Fee was agreed but seems to have stalled on personal terms.
His agent/brother said the other day it's unlikely and they haven't spoken to QPR for weeks or words to that effect. |
Didn't Rhodes sign a new deal with Blackburn? |  |
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| Additional Players? on 17:53 - Aug 6 with 2839 views | timcocking |
We're still lacking a quality holding midfielder. Henry, at a push Ali or Joey, but a decent holding midfielder would be nice. |  | | |
| Additional Players? on 18:13 - Aug 6 with 2791 views | TheBlob |
| Additional Players? on 17:53 - Aug 6 by timcocking |
We're still lacking a quality holding midfielder. Henry, at a push Ali or Joey, but a decent holding midfielder would be nice. |
Van der Vaart it is then. |  |
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| Additional Players? on 20:24 - Aug 6 with 2637 views | kingo |
We have also been linked with the Columbian Sanchez, who is a holding midfielder and wants out of Elche in Spain. He has a reported release clause of 4 m Euros. |  |
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