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Reply | Swans crush Blackburn : Was it just a coincidence ?
at 10:46 23 Feb 2025
Don't expect to win every game under Sheehan but if forwards are missing chances more often but also scoring then it means we are getting a better supply to them, the problem comes against better organised teams where the number of opportunities are reduced and more telling when teams are clinical at finishing their chances.
Forwards have to read the game and have a good understanding with the players around him so he has a good idea where the ball is going to end up in the box and adapt as necessary their movement often makes th space for the pass into the box or gives the player on the ball the time he needs to be effective. The lack of movement can kill a move stone dead.
One and two touch football when needed yesterday and knowing when or when not to hold onto the ball too long. |
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Reply | 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job
at 09:05 23 Feb 2025
Sheehan for me.
The forwards press was so much better yesterday they got quickly into shape first before then closing Blackburn down properly add to that the midfield have the pace and tenacity to back that press up when needed while using those skills to recover if good play does cause problem, nice to see our issues further up the pitch not in our defensive third.
That change in the forwards press made a big difference meaning Blackburn resorted to the long ball.
Blackburn came to attack and we took advantage of that getting in behind themselves as in QPR game, question is could we deal with the teams that park the bus and try counterattacking enough pace in the middle now. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Match day thread ** Updated
at 08:39 23 Feb 2025
Sheehan knows the players the players he has at his disposal and doesn't have to spend time trying to see what they can or cannot do, for the most part.
Would a new manager adapt the team as quick.
We saw last year he had a positive affect when he took over, until the Southampton game, we got overrun in that game against a team just relegated from the Premiership with a number of players of quality, our team had a reshuffled back four with Wood's return to fitness over playing at the back which was not seen yesterday but really cost us killing in that game off. Was Sheehan still in charge of that game or was Williams 'in da house' or was the style of play so ingrained it surfaced at the wrong time?
Early to say it but I would give Sheehan a shot at the job at least until the end of the season.
We should never have lost the Stoke or Sheffield Wednesday games with the players at our disposal, with the return of Parker, Cooper, Ginnelly, Eom and the addition of Delacroix and O'Brien adding strength to the first team squad that has been missing but those players may have needed time to settle in or back in, with us fans expecting those players to have immediate impact but players recovering from bad injuries can take time.
For me Sheehan actually adding a bit of height up front with Peart-Harris and Ronald who both caused issues in previous games with both having pace to chase the quickly deliverd long ball and once the ball at their feet can caused defenders one on one problems be it from direct running or well placed passes, I let you work out who does which.
The boost of having O'Brien in the middle has allowed the team shape to work with a back four, the same back four that were mean goal wise earlier in the season.
Sheehan has used things that have worked at times before but was that one of our very few ninety minute games? |
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Reply | Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Match day thread ** Updated
at 17:43 22 Feb 2025
Much better all-round, cracking save by Vigouroux in the first half, we could have been one nil down or one up before our first goal.Chances missed and shots going awry but a lot more of both including those on target.
No centreforward wasting his energy needlessly trying to close down three players and the goalie by himself. All back into shape quickly to apply the press properly.
Wingers and fullbacks having options in the middle, what was also nice to see the ball being held up at times to allow players to be able to get forward to support the front players not allowing them to be isolated killing forward motion. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Sheehan such a difference : News & Comment
at 08:24 22 Feb 2025
He did alright the last time until we came up against Martin's Southampton, struggled in the first half but only one nil down still in the game, Wood and Rushworth comedy show at the start of the second two nil down no way back.
After not getting the job last time maybe he wouldn't want to seen to be snubbed again for the managers job so giving the impression he doesn't want the job in public or he has seen events unfold and doesn't want the job.
Season ticket renewed before early bird window closes.🤞🏻🙏 |
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Reply | where and why has it gone wrong?
at 08:58 16 Feb 2025
Ronald has been surprisingly good at fullback he gets a foot in, gets closer to wingers not allowing them the acres of space, hasn't struggled under the high ball as much as others in the fullback position, he does get caught by wingers skilled footwork being a bit naive but we have struggled to stifle attacks on the wings almost all season both Key and Tymon have given opposition wingers time and space similar to last season and beyond to Martin's reign playing 5 at the back that still hasn't changed.
Would we be better off if Key played in front of Ronald similar to Coopers reign with four at the back as he has a slightly better ball control when running at players similar to Parker and are both quicker off the mark.
The goals yesterday came from set plays, one a very rash challenge by Cabango at one of the few times the winger got passed Ronald not through foot work, he got outnumbered maybe he did try chasing the ball a bit but the cover wasn't close enough hence the rash challenge, the second goal was the result of Francos intial mistimed challenge out wide being beaten by the winger, Ronald got back to cover and it was debatable about who gave the freekick away Franco chasing back making a challenge from the wrong side or Ronald tracking back trying sensibly to get between the winger and the ball?
Either way both set pieces badly defended as have number of our set plays in defence and similaly in attack have been executed. Maybe through lack of height in defences and attack.
The selection up front was a bit stupid, Ollie Cooper selected for his work rates and sensible ability to cover, Eom for his work rate and movement off the ball and Cullenfor a possible goal threat and workrate but neither of those three are going to threaten in the air and yet we persist in high crosses looked much better with whipped in low crosses.
The midfield duo picks its self Franco and O'Brien and in both the Stoke and Sheffield Wed games we kepted it tight in defence in the first half and early into the second half although not setting the world on fire we had a point in our grasp in both games against Sheff Wed our substitutions didn't work and against Stoke theirs did but both substitutions were made around the 60min mark, In both case we left ourselves exposed defensively surely if substitutions are made you make sure you get into a good defensive shape to see how the substitutions affects the game instead of giving no regard to how substitutions affect our defensive shape and the opposition attacking shape.
At the moment I would go for 4-4-2 in attacking mode and 4-5-1 in defensive mode.
Ronald, Cabango, Darling and Delcroix(at left back) which gives us some height in the team.
Key, Franco, O'Brien, Tymon in the midfield both wide players tucking in and defending as necessary attacking again as necessary.
As for the top two someone who can compete aerially, has pace, defend in the midfield when needed and can score goals, none of Vipotnik, Eom, Cooper, Bianchini Pearl-Harris or Cullen possess all of those qualities so perm and two from six to find the right combinations. Ginnelly?
As we have had a number of changes since the transfer window, new players in, injured players coming back, a player banned we cannot go chasing games, losing points in the bag especially trying to go all out attack leaving ourselves exposed when we are ahead in games. Bad game management. |
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Reply | Luke Williams
at 20:23 13 Feb 2025
100% agreed school boy error similar to Vigouroux last minute error against Millwall players trying to force the play to gain an advantage but doing with no cover for individual
errors, why did Darling try the exact same pass straight after they had scored where they again we should have conceded. Mistakes made in dangerous areas of the pitch because our tactics meant we again struggled to get up the pitch but different tactics employed against Bristol after their initial onslaught.
Picked off as we have been against Millwall and multiple times this season because we didn't employ the right tactics to break down a stubborn defensive setup. [Post edited 13 Feb 20:27]
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Reply | Luke Williams
at 14:31 13 Feb 2025
Time for a change me thinks.
William's tried to change things during the first half but it didn't work, Second half continued with the idea that didn't work at the end of the first half and even though it didn't work he persisted with his flawed idea but to cap it all it is the same idea that didn't work before and didn't work for his mentor. Thought he had to have time to get used to his players and championship footie last season but by now he should be aware of his squad capabilities and pick his players and style of play to suit. |
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Reply | Swans v Owls : Darling gifts the points to Sheffield Wednesday
at 06:53 13 Feb 2025
I would say a 5 is harsh, in the away game he could affect our style of play, yesterday in the first part of the game we did play differently but William's forced that touchline hugging shape upon us that even O"Brien couldn't shift us from, leaving us pedestrian like to say the very least.
Free flowing through the middle gone Sheff Wed just waited for us to make the mistakes. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Sheffield Wednesday : Match day thread
at 06:41 13 Feb 2025
Very reminiscent of Wood last year coming back from injury where in his first got back just after half time his stupid pass was from the corner flag to the goalie Rushworth who under press mistimed his clearance leading to Martin's Southampton going 2-0 up killing the game off that was under Sheenhan's tenure and last game in charge but the Martin indoctrination of "the play must pass the ball to feet at all cost" remained in Wood's head, it is killing us leading to us being picked off, stupid passes in stupid areas of the pitch leaving us with no cover for those mistakes.
Stupid as is constantly pulling players out wide all the time to make the touchline look like a queue for a bus while leaving the chance to progress through the middle of the pitch redundant and up up the flank easy to defend.
Why do we persist in trying to play three or four supposedly clever short little passes among the two or three players who have fought hard to get back possession instead of then getting the ball out of the less crowded part of the pitch, stupid win the ball get it out of the congested area quickly to take advantage of space left in other areas of the pitch to allow us to get forward without a swarm of opposition players around us.
We caused Sheff Wed some problems with get Vipotnik when he had runners off him but we stopped doing it in the pursuit of playing down the wings putting crosses into to the box with no-one in there because half the forward midfielders have been on the wings to stand in he bus stop.
Williams changed things in that first half to a rigid format that the opposition covered easier we then tried to force the issue by giving stupid passes. Again. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Sheffield Wednesday : Match day thread
at 23:32 12 Feb 2025
I thought I saw William's change thing at some point in the first half, we weren't playing that bad but he changed it. It looked as if he was having a go a Tymon telling him to push up high and wide rather than what was working to a degree which was starting receiving from deep full back position with midfielders in front of him who he could make runs off enabling him to come onto the ball with ay that could get us up the park in numbers William issued his instructions Tymon to stay up high and hug the touchline it meant we then tried to progress the ball solely down the flank to poor effect.
In the second half at a stoppage in play it seemed as if Delacroix was asking Tymon to come short but Tymon seemed adamant that hugging the touch line high up the pitch was what he was asked to do which I presumed was happening give the hand gestures by the both players.
A change of tactic that failed but it is a tactic that has been shown to be folly so often, lack of movement filling the wings expecting them to produce something from a static start.
Game we didn't deserve to win but a game they really didn't really do enough to win the game without the gift we shared [Post edited 13 Feb 5:51]
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Reply | Where do we see our loaned out players...
at 04:52 12 Feb 2025
Nice to hear in the Indy report that Joel Cotterill is glad he is getting valuable game time under his belt and thinks he is progressing under Ian Hollloway just needs to be reassured that his future is in the Swansea squad next season not think he will be wasted here and longs to be back with Swindon next season, man management?
Full game last Saturday and he scored from the edge of the box. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Cardiff City U21
at 04:34 12 Feb 2025
Is it a case of the u21s following the lead of the first teams failings with the initial set up and style of at the start each half and directly after scoring goals? In all those cases the first team has a history of over playing especially deep in our half and getting our pants pulled down giving silly goals away. Did we almost suffer conceeding early against Bristol on Sunday and did the u21s suffer it yesterday? |
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Reply | Grimes for Wales
at 04:15 12 Feb 2025
Managing a winger with a hamstring issue who had to change to a different role for Man utd and look after his injury issue luckily an intelligent player, "football wise", able to adapt his game.
Hamstring injuries for wingers is like the kiss of death which can end top flight careers, look at Montero, didn't Michael Owen and Robbie Fowler suffer also because of them.
Yes I think Sir Alex did have a big say in things that in the end extended Gigg's career for both Man U and Wales. |
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Reply | Is he the Messiah?
at 18:35 11 Feb 2025
Is the right answer.  [Post edited 11 Feb 18:35]
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Reply | Luke Williams : Coleman was like a madman : I’ve got more experience than all
at 06:38 11 Feb 2025
Maybe Coleman needs to acknowledge the fact his skillset is not up to rigours of the job he thinks a Chairman of a football club needs, maybe Williams comments and assessment of Coleman's situation is right in that he needs better staff around him so he can delegate and share the load with others more qualified in different areas off the game than Coleman himself.
Makes you think who has authorised some of the poor signing we have had both before and during Coleman's reign some very hit and miss decisions, people being advised incorrectly or not qualified to make the right decision for the club. |
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Reply | Grimes for Wales
at 06:22 11 Feb 2025
Grimes in the Welsh team for me would be a huge step backwards. A number of Swansea managers have realised his weaknesses and because of his good points have tried to build their team around him to accommodate him.
Can you really see him commanding the central midfield at international level.
All for trying to find new players to build the ranks of the Welsh squad, the younger the better before they really prove they can excel at a higher level and use their belief in their Welsh nationality to secure there alleagence but if you are going to use an "Englishman" of an age, who has been overlooked by England surely you would be looking for someone already playing at the higher English Premier League level. Are those players in short supply, maybe they are because of the number of foreign players plying their trade in the EPL.
There do seem to be players of quality overlooked by Premier teams do you just have to look at Josh Sheehan deemed not good enough for the star studded Swansea team unable as a youngster to force his way into even a failing Premier league team now giving a good show of himself in a Welsh Shirt. You could add the likes of Cullen and Cooper into a category of players when looked at in isolation you would think would not be up to the international grade but as a team player fitted in to the benefit of the Welsh Squad.
Would Grimes benefit Wales adding numbers to the squad in a position we appear to be low in numbers maybe BUT at the moment I am more interested to know or confirm has he been one of the main issues that has held the Swansea team development back, shutting out potentially better players, can we really say having a single player in place in a failing team with good players around him not performing well for a long period of time has been a good thing? |
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