| Thatcher dead 12:56 - Apr 8 with 93885 views | six_foot_two |
Skynews are are saying Magaret Thatcher has died of a stroke |  | | |  |
| Thatcher dead on 14:41 - Apr 8 with 2151 views | Bedford_R |
| Thatcher dead on 14:37 - Apr 8 by finney |
As we speak history is being re wrote and people asking for a state funeral.
I take no joy in the death of anyone not even her that said she messed up so many lives.
And all those who say good things about her i will hold my words which is unlike me.
But the day she goes into the ground people will be kicking off on both sides there will be trouble.
No tears from me that is for sure.
Satan will be shitting himself like many of us hes just lost his job because of Thatcher. |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:41 - Apr 8 with 2150 views | wombat |
Ghostbusters !!!!
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| Thatcher dead on 14:42 - Apr 8 with 2135 views | ElHoop |
Finney says:
But the day she goes into the ground people will be kicking off on both sides there will be trouble.
This is Britain, not Northern Ireland. |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:44 - Apr 8 with 2119 views | smegma |
| Thatcher dead on 14:42 - Apr 8 by ElHoop |
Finney says:
But the day she goes into the ground people will be kicking off on both sides there will be trouble.
This is Britain, not Northern Ireland. |
I don't think he means literally kicking off, I think he means arguing, like on this thread.
Have you ever met him or know anything about him ?? |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:47 - Apr 8 with 2096 views | Aunt_Nelly |
"When the IRA were regularly bombing London she didn't make hundreds of ludicrous anti-terror laws even when they tried to blow her up as well. She just stood up and said that we're not going to let them win and carried on with business as usual. Imagine what Blair would have done in that situation."
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Talking tough about standing firm to the IRA when really she was involved in secret negotiations with them. No wonder they took the piss and at every opportunity tried to blow us up.
I have no love for Blair but it was his lot who secured peace with the IRA
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| Thatcher dead on 14:48 - Apr 8 with 2091 views | scot1963 |
I have no respect for her - she had no empathy or compassion that I ever remember (unless, of course, it directly affected her). My abiding memory of her is that she refused to deal, under any circumstance, with the release of the hostages (John Major then effected their release) and yet used her position to ensure that no stone was left unturned when it came to finding her hapless son lost in the desert |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:49 - Apr 8 with 2083 views | MkPaul |
| Thatcher dead on 14:19 - Apr 8 by SomersetHoops |
In my opinion, in her first two terms she did a lot of good redressing the balance between the government and unions, but after that she became too fundamentally right wing. We need a rule like they have in France where a premier can only serve two consecutive terms. The left wing hated her because she reduced their power to disrupt the country whenever they felt like it, but for me this is one of the good things she did.
A lot of the politically fundamental things she did like mass privatisations have atually resulted in in bad value for our country and its people at the expense of profits and overpaid jobs for the mostly foreign fat cats now running most of our utility industries. I can't think of many other countries allowing this and I feel sad that we have allowed it. If the new nuclear plants go ahead, they will be owned and operated by foreign companies and I think its a serious mistake to allow this in terms of the possibilty of accidents resulting from management without a commitment to our country. It also gives a company partly owned and controlled by a foreign government control over our power generation, which in my opinion should not be allowed.
All the privatisations give a short term gain to the exchequer while costing us all far more in the long run. The real problem is the short term strategy employed by governments not prepared to invest in the long term infrastructure of our country. As far as I can see this is the result of the dreadful group of politicians we have, none of whom see past short term vote winning and are not prepared to sell the idea of investing in our own country for the long term benefit of all.
Part of this was started under Thatcher, but none of her successors have had the guts or resources to put it right and some of the Labour leaders have made things far worse with massive PFI projects which we will all be paying over the odds for, for years to come. |
But most of the public services were losing money and costing us a fortune to support | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:50 - Apr 8 with 2068 views | ElHoop |
| Thatcher dead on 14:44 - Apr 8 by smegma |
I don't think he means literally kicking off, I think he means arguing, like on this thread.
Have you ever met him or know anything about him ?? |
I don't really know anybody on here in fact, but to suggest that there's going to be a ruck when Thatcher gets buried is a bit of a joke, if that's what Finney meant. | | | |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:51 - Apr 8 with 2064 views | kingsburyR |
Was a fan of Mrs T and approved of the way she dealt with the unions.
Better for it.
Someone died today, have a bit of respect for her family. |  |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:51 - Apr 8 with 2063 views | finney |
| Thatcher dead on 14:42 - Apr 8 by ElHoop |
Finney says:
But the day she goes into the ground people will be kicking off on both sides there will be trouble.
This is Britain, not Northern Ireland. |
says the person with an undertones cover ironic that. |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:51 - Apr 8 with 2060 views | doogi55 |
| Thatcher dead on 14:47 - Apr 8 by Aunt_Nelly |
"When the IRA were regularly bombing London she didn't make hundreds of ludicrous anti-terror laws even when they tried to blow her up as well. She just stood up and said that we're not going to let them win and carried on with business as usual. Imagine what Blair would have done in that situation."
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Talking tough about standing firm to the IRA when really she was involved in secret negotiations with them. No wonder they took the piss and at every opportunity tried to blow us up.
I have no love for Blair but it was his lot who secured peace with the IRA
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didnt she call mandella a terrorist and should not be talked to.
then met in when addressed both house and shook is hand . | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:52 - Apr 8 with 2055 views | stowmarketrange |
| Thatcher dead on 14:49 - Apr 8 by MkPaul |
But most of the public services were losing money and costing us a fortune to support |
But they were Public services.Not private money making schemes.
Can anyone name one thing that was sold off that is better value now? |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:52 - Apr 8 with 2050 views | nadera78 |
| Thatcher dead on 14:49 - Apr 8 by MkPaul |
But most of the public services were losing money and costing us a fortune to support |
No, we pay for them through incredibly high prices, and the government still subsidises them. The railways, gas, water, electric, etc all receive pricing guarantees from the government. Profits these foreign-owned companies make here go to subsidising prices charged in France, Germany, etc. | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:52 - Apr 8 with 2048 views | ElHoop |
| Thatcher dead on 14:51 - Apr 8 by finney |
says the person with an undertones cover ironic that. |
Sorry - you've lost me Finney. Are rock bands a reason to 'kick off' over there then? | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:53 - Apr 8 with 2040 views | finney |
i am telling you people will take issue with each other over her death as in life i don't mean people will be shooting each other but tempers will be tested.
For the record there have been many riots outside Norn Iron | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:54 - Apr 8 with 2034 views | TacticalR |
| Thatcher dead on 14:08 - Apr 8 by stevec |
Nice to see a reasoned denouncement instead of the usual shallow vitriol coming from other detractors but can I ask this - who in your opinion was a better Prime Minister, lets say in the last 45-50 years ?
Wilson - Heath - Callaghan - Major - Blair - Brown - Cameron ?
3 Labour leaders who conspired to bankrupt the country (as does Labour every time it gets a sustained period of office). Heath who, unlike Thatcher, tried to fight the unions and failed, Major who allowed the left leaning Clarke to piss all over him, or Cameron who hasn't exactly set the world alight so far.
I suspect you don't have an answer to this, as there isn't one. Still, any takers? |
I probably don't have an answer that satisfies you.
Perhaps it's a feature of the decline of Britain that it is no more able to produce useful Prime Ministers than it is able to produce useful commodities. Prime Ministers tend to be men for their times. Wilson was a chameleon because he was managing a party that held completely conflicting viewpoints about what was possible for capitalism. At the time he was Prime Minister the illusion that capitalism could be 'managed' and was no longer subject to economic crisis was widespread. As the 1970s progressed that illusion was shattered.
The actions of Thatcher arose from that context, the context of economic crisis which had destroyed the consensus in British politics. To return to today, I think the difficulty for the post-Thatcherites is that their actions are seen as solely destructive. These are men without ideas. In Thatcher's time the pain of destruction was supposed to be followed by the gain brought about by deregulation and financial services. Now it seems the cure of financial services has become the disease, and our men without ideas only seem to offer pain. And as Thatcher destroyed all the 'enemies within', who is there left to blame? |  |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:54 - Apr 8 with 2541 views | ElHoop |
| Thatcher dead on 14:53 - Apr 8 by finney |
i am telling you people will take issue with each other over her death as in life i don't mean people will be shooting each other but tempers will be tested.
For the record there have been many riots outside Norn Iron |
Nobody cares enough Finney. The lefties might have their party, but they'll have nobody to fight. Everybody else has enough on their plate. | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:54 - Apr 8 with 2541 views | Rangersw12 |
The working class of this country can now rejoice   | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:55 - Apr 8 with 2539 views | finney |
| Thatcher dead on 14:52 - Apr 8 by ElHoop |
Sorry - you've lost me Finney. Are rock bands a reason to 'kick off' over there then? |
Er no they are from Northern Ireland a country that only kicks off according to you | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:56 - Apr 8 with 2523 views | ElHoop |
| Thatcher dead on 14:55 - Apr 8 by finney |
Er no they are from Northern Ireland a country that only kicks off according to you |
They certainly made a fair fist of kicking off in the 1970's and 1980's, when Thatcher was one of the few who fancied risking a bomb up her arse. | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:56 - Apr 8 with 2521 views | Metallica_Hoop |
"In her 2002 book, Statecraft, she suggested the European single currency was an attempt to create a "European super state" and would fail "economically, politically and socially"."
She was right. |  |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:58 - Apr 8 with 2510 views | finney |
And by putting millions on the dole pushed up the welfare bill.
Go look at the prices we now pay to what we earn and back in them days as well.
We sold our selfs down the river and at the mercy of the rest of the world for goods we no longer make and we took a hammering for that insane act.
take a look at the footage from the miners strike and see how the police acted on her orders and how football fans were treated and the whole Hillsborough case lay at her feet, | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:58 - Apr 8 with 2509 views | stowmarketrange |
| Thatcher dead on 14:51 - Apr 8 by kingsburyR |
Was a fan of Mrs T and approved of the way she dealt with the unions.
Better for it.
Someone died today, have a bit of respect for her family. |
And how many people have died due to her vindictive policies?
How many working were thrown on the scrapheap because their jobs were expendable in the great plans she had for the country?
Where are the jobs for ordinary working people now?
You can either work in a call centre or a charity shop.
F--k her.let her rot in hell. | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:59 - Apr 8 with 2503 views | RangersDave |
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Exocet missiles dont have that facility. they are a fire and forget 'stand off' missile fully autonomous once launched. If they lose lock they will hunt smartly for regain.
They can be shot down using C-WIZ and other missiles but that's it.
I think she did ok as a prime minister, however she outstayed her welcome a bit.
She crushed the miners who were too blinking stupid to realise that the only one on any money was Scargil so it didnt matter how long they were on strike for.
Half the mines closed due to the strike and the lack of maintenance carried out while they were all on a picket line. Mines need constant maintenance.
She was a very personable lady as well. I was lucky enough to be invited by her to No.10 in 1983 and it left a lasting impression on me how nice someone in power can be behind closed doors. |  |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:59 - Apr 8 with 2500 views | QPR_Jim |
| Thatcher dead on 14:49 - Apr 8 by MkPaul |
But most of the public services were losing money and costing us a fortune to support |
Surely then the answer is to raise the prices of said services. IMO it came down to a simple choice raise prices by £x to cover investment to improve the services or sell off to a private company who will improve the service but at a cost of £x+40% to cover for their trouble.
In the end it's us who foot the bill. |  | | |
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