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Fit to fight 10:42 - Feb 11 with 615 viewsBoundy

I don't think so , fat flabby recruits I blame mammy .

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/army-fitness-tests-to-get-harder-after-ye

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Fit to fight on 12:59 - Feb 11 with 550 viewsAnotherJohn

The forces may struggle to get even the fatties from Gen Z to enlist.. A recent survey found that only 1 in 10 say they would be willing to fight to defend the country.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/society/article/gen-z-survey-police-racism-crime-nhs
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Fit to fight on 17:40 - Feb 11 with 443 viewsSullutaCreturned

When I did the fitness test, when I really was fit, I was doing the 1.5 mile run and finding it easy, I was coasting. One of the sergeants stepped out in front of me, stopped me and gave me a roasting for not putting my best effort in. Then I had to really try because I had fallen behind the time.

And no, I did not get to serve.
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Fit to fight on 19:30 - Feb 11 with 421 viewsKilkennyjack

Got a downer on the young ?

Thats not like you …..

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Fit to fight on 19:54 - Feb 11 with 410 viewsBoundy

Fit to fight on 17:40 - Feb 11 by SullutaCreturned

When I did the fitness test, when I really was fit, I was doing the 1.5 mile run and finding it easy, I was coasting. One of the sergeants stepped out in front of me, stopped me and gave me a roasting for not putting my best effort in. Then I had to really try because I had fallen behind the time.

And no, I did not get to serve.


imo my generation were naturally fit ,not all of course but we were more outdoor types compared to our contemporaries'. 15 aside football down the park for literally hours at a time, walking everywhere, school cross country everything you rarely see today ,our diets were healthier with not a single MacDonalds in sight and our meals freshly cooked. In school a fat kid was a rarity and really stood out ,just look around you now and its the norm.
I had a core fitness which was improved when I joined up and maintained it throughout my working life ,its a pity you didn't get the chance to find out about military life was all about , some bad but mostly good times.

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Fit to fight on 20:36 - Feb 11 with 394 viewsonehunglow

Fit to fight on 19:30 - Feb 11 by Kilkennyjack

Got a downer on the young ?

Thats not like you …..


I haven't
I feel for them
They have both the freedom , space , fun or music my generation had
Anyone growing up in the 60s knows , although it was still the 50s in the valleys

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Fit to fight on 22:12 - Feb 11 with 355 viewslifelong

Fit to fight on 19:54 - Feb 11 by Boundy

imo my generation were naturally fit ,not all of course but we were more outdoor types compared to our contemporaries'. 15 aside football down the park for literally hours at a time, walking everywhere, school cross country everything you rarely see today ,our diets were healthier with not a single MacDonalds in sight and our meals freshly cooked. In school a fat kid was a rarity and really stood out ,just look around you now and its the norm.
I had a core fitness which was improved when I joined up and maintained it throughout my working life ,its a pity you didn't get the chance to find out about military life was all about , some bad but mostly good times.


I disagree regarding it’s the norm.
There a lot of fit young people about these days, the swimming classes, football club matches and training for all ages are full to the brim.
What is different these days is young people have access to all sorts of online gaming equipment which simply wasn’t available years ago.
I meet our 10 year old grandson from school every day and the vast majority of children I see are not overweight.
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Fit to fight on 23:21 - Feb 11 with 323 viewsBoundy

Fit to fight on 22:12 - Feb 11 by lifelong

I disagree regarding it’s the norm.
There a lot of fit young people about these days, the swimming classes, football club matches and training for all ages are full to the brim.
What is different these days is young people have access to all sorts of online gaming equipment which simply wasn’t available years ago.
I meet our 10 year old grandson from school every day and the vast majority of children I see are not overweight.


You say football , well in Swansea for example the Swansea senior league is now down to 3 Divisions with the Sunday league no longer existing , all this because there isn't the interest in playing , gyms are available but what you seem to have are those more interested in bulking up rather than cardiovascular training , I live close to a comprehensive school and I see what I see a lot of fat kids which strangely enough had their swimming pool closed ,not only closed but filled in with concrete.

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Fit to fight on 23:33 - Feb 11 with 314 viewsAnotherJohn

Fit to fight on 23:21 - Feb 11 by Boundy

You say football , well in Swansea for example the Swansea senior league is now down to 3 Divisions with the Sunday league no longer existing , all this because there isn't the interest in playing , gyms are available but what you seem to have are those more interested in bulking up rather than cardiovascular training , I live close to a comprehensive school and I see what I see a lot of fat kids which strangely enough had their swimming pool closed ,not only closed but filled in with concrete.


Yes, I think there is something in the less football, more gym work to bulk up. My son would be in that category, whereas I played an awful lot of informal football when a teenager as well as for school and then uni teams.
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Fit to fight on 01:48 - Feb 12 with 286 viewsRobbie

Local swimming pool close to me being closed down , too much money to save it and an unnecessary burden to the local tax payer , both my youngsters grown up now learned to swim there , a life saver if needed in an emergency .

Never mind NPTC have allowed a McDonalds to be built alongside the local Comprehensive School , walking distance at lunchtime for the children .
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Fit to fight on 09:18 - Feb 12 with 219 viewsBoundy

Fit to fight on 01:48 - Feb 12 by Robbie

Local swimming pool close to me being closed down , too much money to save it and an unnecessary burden to the local tax payer , both my youngsters grown up now learned to swim there , a life saver if needed in an emergency .

Never mind NPTC have allowed a McDonalds to be built alongside the local Comprehensive School , walking distance at lunchtime for the children .


Then there were no no such things a fast food outlets , the nearest we had to one was a Berni Inn , remember the one in College Street a place to visit before going to see a film in the Albert Hall. The food we ate was different as well with just the onset of curry houses so it was mainly fish and chips if you were eating out .
Government figures state " Around two-thirds (63%) of adults are above a healthy weight, and of these half are living with obesity. In England 1 in 3 children leaving primary school are overweight or living with obesity with 1 in 5 living with obesity ,.Among children aged 2 to 15, the prevalence of obesity was 15%, the prevalence of overweight (including obesity) was 27%.
21% of children aged 8 to 15 were trying to lose weight," Kids are fatter because some parents are too lazy to cook or ignorant to try.

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Fit to fight on 10:54 - Feb 12 with 175 viewsraynor94

Fit to fight on 09:18 - Feb 12 by Boundy

Then there were no no such things a fast food outlets , the nearest we had to one was a Berni Inn , remember the one in College Street a place to visit before going to see a film in the Albert Hall. The food we ate was different as well with just the onset of curry houses so it was mainly fish and chips if you were eating out .
Government figures state " Around two-thirds (63%) of adults are above a healthy weight, and of these half are living with obesity. In England 1 in 3 children leaving primary school are overweight or living with obesity with 1 in 5 living with obesity ,.Among children aged 2 to 15, the prevalence of obesity was 15%, the prevalence of overweight (including obesity) was 27%.
21% of children aged 8 to 15 were trying to lose weight," Kids are fatter because some parents are too lazy to cook or ignorant to try.


Your last paragraph is spot on, you have parents filling there kids with junk microwave meals, when fresh fruit and veg is dirt cheap at Aldi and Lidl.

The rise of companies like Just Eat and Uber is frightening, and McDonald's have a lot to answer for.

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Fit to fight on 12:27 - Feb 12 with 136 viewsGwyn737

Loads of really good points here and I'll add couple more.

1. The demise of school extra curricular sports in some areas.

Most of us on here will remember a teacher saying "Match on Thursday boys, bring your boots for 3pm and I'll see you there".

Now there has be a risk assessment written and approved, letters to go out and come back with parents permission, medical needs collated, a first aider additionally present etc. It's a much bigger faff.

There's also becoming a need to sort transport out as more and more schools are stopping parents from attending sporting events, partly for safeguarding reasons and partly because a minority can't behave when watching.

2. The 'professionalisation' of grassroots sports.

Go to any park on a Saturday and you'll see young kids in club kits/tracksuits etc. This coupled with how much admin clubs have to do now means that team sports cost. Sometimes that means those who need it most miss out.
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Fit to fight on 18:47 - Feb 12 with 32 viewsSullutaCreturned

Fit to fight on 12:27 - Feb 12 by Gwyn737

Loads of really good points here and I'll add couple more.

1. The demise of school extra curricular sports in some areas.

Most of us on here will remember a teacher saying "Match on Thursday boys, bring your boots for 3pm and I'll see you there".

Now there has be a risk assessment written and approved, letters to go out and come back with parents permission, medical needs collated, a first aider additionally present etc. It's a much bigger faff.

There's also becoming a need to sort transport out as more and more schools are stopping parents from attending sporting events, partly for safeguarding reasons and partly because a minority can't behave when watching.

2. The 'professionalisation' of grassroots sports.

Go to any park on a Saturday and you'll see young kids in club kits/tracksuits etc. This coupled with how much admin clubs have to do now means that team sports cost. Sometimes that means those who need it most miss out.
[Post edited 12 Feb 14:49]


Yeah my sons under 16 team is just like that. So many rules and extra expenses. We can afford to pay and all the parents support the club by donating extras in whichever way they can so that poorer parents kids can still play. But there is a lot of pfaff.
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Fit to fight on 18:51 - Feb 12 with 29 viewsSullutaCreturned

Fit to fight on 19:54 - Feb 11 by Boundy

imo my generation were naturally fit ,not all of course but we were more outdoor types compared to our contemporaries'. 15 aside football down the park for literally hours at a time, walking everywhere, school cross country everything you rarely see today ,our diets were healthier with not a single MacDonalds in sight and our meals freshly cooked. In school a fat kid was a rarity and really stood out ,just look around you now and its the norm.
I had a core fitness which was improved when I joined up and maintained it throughout my working life ,its a pity you didn't get the chance to find out about military life was all about , some bad but mostly good times.


I failed the medical that day, deviated septum, I'd broken my nose playing football the week before. Then the Major who interviewed me said that my lax atitude gave him concerns about my reasons for joining. He said go away, have the op and come back in 6 months if I was really interested.

I had the op, started getting bad chests straight away, diagnosed with asthma. I was so bad I hardly even played football for 5 years so never went back.

It's one of my few genuine regrets but offset by the fact that my life turned out pretty good!
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