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The Black Belt Barrister 18:06 - Dec 20 with 879 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Keith provided a link for this guy on the Manchester Airport thread, he's interesting in that as a barrister he fully aware of what he can say and often has a real insight into how things are in society as well as the law, Here he is on politics today:

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The Black Belt Barrister on 18:08 - Dec 20 with 723 viewsonehunglow

Sorry


I just saw barrister and jumped in

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The Black Belt Barrister on 19:04 - Dec 20 with 653 viewsKeithHaynes

Decent guy has politics that would appeal to many.

Or maybe the reason why Labour are trying to call off the council elections, he knows what damage Reform would do.

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The Black Belt Barrister on 19:10 - Dec 20 with 638 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The Black Belt Barrister on 19:04 - Dec 20 by KeithHaynes

Decent guy has politics that would appeal to many.

Or maybe the reason why Labour are trying to call off the council elections, he knows what damage Reform would do.


Quite like his notion that if political parties keep making clear and ambiguous statements on a particular policy such as the WASPI women and then suddenly change their mind then the WASPI women could have a case in law. That would stop some of the political lies!

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The Black Belt Barrister on 19:42 - Dec 20 with 614 viewsGwyn737

The Black Belt Barrister on 19:10 - Dec 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

Quite like his notion that if political parties keep making clear and ambiguous statements on a particular policy such as the WASPI women and then suddenly change their mind then the WASPI women could have a case in law. That would stop some of the political lies!


It’s one of the many issues with party politics.

A number of individual Labour now MPs came out in support of WASPI but it wasn’t in the manifesto the party was elected on.

Personally in not in support of it so I’m ok with the party decision.
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The Black Belt Barrister on 20:32 - Dec 20 with 562 viewsmax936

The Black Belt Barrister on 19:42 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

It’s one of the many issues with party politics.

A number of individual Labour now MPs came out in support of WASPI but it wasn’t in the manifesto the party was elected on.

Personally in not in support of it so I’m ok with the party decision.


Why aren't you in support of it?

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The Black Belt Barrister on 21:19 - Dec 20 with 529 viewsKeithHaynes

The Black Belt Barrister on 19:42 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

It’s one of the many issues with party politics.

A number of individual Labour now MPs came out in support of WASPI but it wasn’t in the manifesto the party was elected on.

Personally in not in support of it so I’m ok with the party decision.


Only a year ago Starmer was stating they would support the Waspi cause and was pictured with flags, placards etc stating it. You can’t support that lack of integrity in any form.

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The Black Belt Barrister on 21:29 - Dec 20 with 508 viewsmax936

The Black Belt Barrister on 21:19 - Dec 20 by KeithHaynes

Only a year ago Starmer was stating they would support the Waspi cause and was pictured with flags, placards etc stating it. You can’t support that lack of integrity in any form.


I thought he was the right man for leader of labour party, but that soon diminished I didn't and still haven't got ant faith in him whatsoever.

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The Black Belt Barrister on 21:32 - Dec 20 with 490 viewsKeithHaynes

The Black Belt Barrister on 21:29 - Dec 20 by max936

I thought he was the right man for leader of labour party, but that soon diminished I didn't and still haven't got ant faith in him whatsoever.


I don’t care who is in the firing line, any party, anyone of them is up for grabs for me.

But Starmer hasn’t given anyone any faith in him surely ?

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The Black Belt Barrister on 21:41 - Dec 20 with 477 viewsGwyn737

The Black Belt Barrister on 21:19 - Dec 20 by KeithHaynes

Only a year ago Starmer was stating they would support the Waspi cause and was pictured with flags, placards etc stating it. You can’t support that lack of integrity in any form.


I agree, it’s bad.

But it wasn’t in the manifesto where party takes precedence. Not saying i think it’s ok.

Unfortunately being in opposition means you can promise whatever you like. Look at what Reform are doing.
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The Black Belt Barrister on 21:48 - Dec 20 with 473 viewsBoundy

The Black Belt Barrister on 21:41 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

I agree, it’s bad.

But it wasn’t in the manifesto where party takes precedence. Not saying i think it’s ok.

Unfortunately being in opposition means you can promise whatever you like. Look at what Reform are doing.


Judge Reform when they get into power , not before it .

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The Black Belt Barrister on 22:18 - Dec 20 with 447 viewsGwyn737

The Black Belt Barrister on 21:48 - Dec 20 by Boundy

Judge Reform when they get into power , not before it .


I can’t.

I’ve no idea who their MP’s would be and their manifesto is fantasy.

The bits I’m really interested in are a joke.
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The Black Belt Barrister on 22:46 - Dec 20 with 428 viewsraynor94

The Black Belt Barrister on 19:42 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

It’s one of the many issues with party politics.

A number of individual Labour now MPs came out in support of WASPI but it wasn’t in the manifesto the party was elected on.

Personally in not in support of it so I’m ok with the party decision.


You are one of a few on here, who seem to have a problem with the older generation, irrespective if it was in the manifesto, all the now Labour front benches were more than happy to back the Waspi Women.

Starmer Reeves and the rest have really plummed the depths since being elected

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The Black Belt Barrister on 22:47 - Dec 20 with 426 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The Black Belt Barrister on 21:41 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

I agree, it’s bad.

But it wasn’t in the manifesto where party takes precedence. Not saying i think it’s ok.

Unfortunately being in opposition means you can promise whatever you like. Look at what Reform are doing.


In the attached video the barrister suggests that clear and much repeated promises could have legal value. If that was the case then that may curtail all the lying and false promises. I guess if you say it enough even though it's not in your manifesto it could constitute a commitment, it would have to be tested in court.

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The Black Belt Barrister on 22:48 - Dec 20 with 420 viewsGwyn737

The Black Belt Barrister on 22:47 - Dec 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

In the attached video the barrister suggests that clear and much repeated promises could have legal value. If that was the case then that may curtail all the lying and false promises. I guess if you say it enough even though it's not in your manifesto it could constitute a commitment, it would have to be tested in court.


If that’s right I wonder why it’s not been tested before 🤷🏻
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The Black Belt Barrister on 22:50 - Dec 20 with 420 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The Black Belt Barrister on 22:48 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

If that’s right I wonder why it’s not been tested before 🤷🏻


No idea, but it would be really good to see the lies curtailed.

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The Black Belt Barrister on 05:44 - Dec 21 with 355 viewsGwyn737

The Black Belt Barrister on 22:46 - Dec 20 by raynor94

You are one of a few on here, who seem to have a problem with the older generation, irrespective if it was in the manifesto, all the now Labour front benches were more than happy to back the Waspi Women.

Starmer Reeves and the rest have really plummed the depths since being elected


No issue with older people at all.

I just think when difficult choices have to be made, the pain has to be spread around.
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The Black Belt Barrister on 08:17 - Dec 21 with 329 viewsScotia

The Black Belt Barrister on 21:48 - Dec 20 by Boundy

Judge Reform when they get into power , not before it .


It can't really work like that. Judging them on their manifesto alone is enough to see they would be a disaster.

None of it is deliverable and none of it is affordable.
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The Black Belt Barrister on 08:22 - Dec 21 with 319 viewsScotia

The Black Belt Barrister on 22:48 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

If that’s right I wonder why it’s not been tested before 🤷🏻


I just don't buy that it is correct, even if it was it would be easily defendable through the use of weasel words at the time and unknown aspects of the financial position.

What does "support" mean and the £20 billion black hole for example.
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The Black Belt Barrister on 09:43 - Dec 21 with 288 viewsonehunglow

The Black Belt Barrister on 22:46 - Dec 20 by raynor94

You are one of a few on here, who seem to have a problem with the older generation, irrespective if it was in the manifesto, all the now Labour front benches were more than happy to back the Waspi Women.

Starmer Reeves and the rest have really plummed the depths since being elected


Old people are treated with distain in this country
Incredibly insulted by sone becasue they are rich
Fact is they feed the feckless all their futile lives
Every child born to a doombrain girl is kept for life by these people so they might show some gratitude .

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The Black Belt Barrister on 09:58 - Dec 21 with 275 viewsGwyn737

The Black Belt Barrister on 09:43 - Dec 21 by onehunglow

Old people are treated with distain in this country
Incredibly insulted by sone becasue they are rich
Fact is they feed the feckless all their futile lives
Every child born to a doombrain girl is kept for life by these people so they might show some gratitude .


I’d say in the main that’s due to the breakdown in community.

I seem to have upset a few on here by my comments on WFA and WASPI.

For clarification all I’ve really said is that although I think the cut off for WFA is too low, it shouldn’t be a universal benefit (I feel the same about child benefit).

As for WASPI I think that there are better things to spend £10 billion on when services are under such strain.

I also always push back on the young people bashing that pops up on here.
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The Black Belt Barrister on 10:30 - Dec 21 with 248 viewsonehunglow

The Black Belt Barrister on 09:58 - Dec 21 by Gwyn737

I’d say in the main that’s due to the breakdown in community.

I seem to have upset a few on here by my comments on WFA and WASPI.

For clarification all I’ve really said is that although I think the cut off for WFA is too low, it shouldn’t be a universal benefit (I feel the same about child benefit).

As for WASPI I think that there are better things to spend £10 billion on when services are under such strain.

I also always push back on the young people bashing that pops up on here.


You do ok.
I don’t agree with you often but yiu don’t shoot personal arrows so I respect you in that regard
Personally,I’m no diddly squiggly piss panted pensioner. I can still sting .
Our country does shyte all over those who have given a lifetime to this country. We don’t even respect ex servicemen ,many of whom are on the streets whilst illegals are warm and cushy in an hotel specially emptied for them.

We are sick

Anyway,barristers ! I have to have a lie down when I read the word

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The Black Belt Barrister on 10:34 - Dec 21 with 237 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

The Black Belt Barrister on 09:58 - Dec 21 by Gwyn737

I’d say in the main that’s due to the breakdown in community.

I seem to have upset a few on here by my comments on WFA and WASPI.

For clarification all I’ve really said is that although I think the cut off for WFA is too low, it shouldn’t be a universal benefit (I feel the same about child benefit).

As for WASPI I think that there are better things to spend £10 billion on when services are under such strain.

I also always push back on the young people bashing that pops up on here.


The biggest problem for me with the governments actions around WFA and the farmers tax is it’s not really benefiting anyone. It’s not raising much money for the treasury and it’s not saving much either. They’ve admitted as much themselves. They have often trotted out the line that the vast majority will be unaffected. So why do it then?

It just seems completely ideological.

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The Black Belt Barrister on 10:44 - Dec 21 with 221 viewsGwyn737

The Black Belt Barrister on 10:34 - Dec 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

The biggest problem for me with the governments actions around WFA and the farmers tax is it’s not really benefiting anyone. It’s not raising much money for the treasury and it’s not saving much either. They’ve admitted as much themselves. They have often trotted out the line that the vast majority will be unaffected. So why do it then?

It just seems completely ideological.


Governments al ways over estimate savings but I think there will still be a pretty substantial saving.

As for the farmers, I think it’s more about closing the loophole than raising cash straight away which is a good step IMO.

Look how quiet Clarkson has gone since his own words were put to him?
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The Black Belt Barrister on 10:51 - Dec 21 with 212 viewsGwyn737

The Black Belt Barrister on 10:30 - Dec 21 by onehunglow

You do ok.
I don’t agree with you often but yiu don’t shoot personal arrows so I respect you in that regard
Personally,I’m no diddly squiggly piss panted pensioner. I can still sting .
Our country does shyte all over those who have given a lifetime to this country. We don’t even respect ex servicemen ,many of whom are on the streets whilst illegals are warm and cushy in an hotel specially emptied for them.

We are sick

Anyway,barristers ! I have to have a lie down when I read the word


I’m 46 so my state pension age is 67.

I benefited from free school travel, free university (I was the last year of grants), low cost student loans and a 100% mortgage to buy a flat that was 3 times my wage.

Many of these things are not available for young people now yet we keep asking them to pay. For longer.

What has surprised me is the confusion for many on how the state pension works. It’s not a personal savings pot and in some ways it does equate to what you put in.

I thought this was common knowledge but I was wrong.

None of this means I think the lesion is a benefit or high enough.
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The Black Belt Barrister on 10:59 - Dec 21 with 210 viewsraynor94

The Black Belt Barrister on 09:58 - Dec 21 by Gwyn737

I’d say in the main that’s due to the breakdown in community.

I seem to have upset a few on here by my comments on WFA and WASPI.

For clarification all I’ve really said is that although I think the cut off for WFA is too low, it shouldn’t be a universal benefit (I feel the same about child benefit).

As for WASPI I think that there are better things to spend £10 billion on when services are under such strain.

I also always push back on the young people bashing that pops up on here.


You haven't upset me in the least, but I totally disagree with your views, Starmer and Reeves have made a total cock up with wfa and Waspi.

Today is the cut off for applying for pension credit, 150 thousand applications, but only 42 and a half thousand have been processed, there's no sharing of pain here, pensioners have been targeted by Labour.

And before the triple lock is mentioned the 4.1% rise doesn't come into being till next April, so a lot have a tough few months ahead, before they get a £9 a week increase.

The hypocrisy with Labour over the Waspi Women is nauseating

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