| Gaza latest on 13:39 - Jan 2 with 1184 views | onehunglow |
| Gaza latest on 12:15 - Jan 2 by felixstowe_jack |
Except of course all the Arab countries have refused to accept the UNITED NATIONS mandate when Israel was form and hsve been trying to invade then ever since. |
Russia and Iran have vested interest in the Middle East |  |
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| Gaza latest on 21:43 - Jan 2 with 1137 views | jackrmee |
| Gaza latest on 11:05 - Jan 2 by onehunglow |
Whereas Russia and Iran supplying Hamas . |
And since 8th of October, how many Israelis have Hamas killed? As opposed to the 20 odd thousand civilians killed by Israel? |  |
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| Gaza latest on 21:45 - Jan 2 with 1136 views | jackrmee |
| Gaza latest on 12:15 - Jan 2 by felixstowe_jack |
Except of course all the Arab countries have refused to accept the UNITED NATIONS mandate when Israel was form and hsve been trying to invade then ever since. |
Only ones I can see invading anyone in recent times is Israel.
Invading, stealing land and occupying. | |
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| Gaza latest on 21:52 - Jan 2 with 1132 views | Flashberryjack |
| Gaza latest on 21:43 - Jan 2 by jackrmee |
And since 8th of October, how many Israelis have Hamas killed? As opposed to the 20 odd thousand civilians killed by Israel? |
At least Hamas aren't firing rockets indiscriminately into Israel. |  |
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| Gaza latest on 23:46 - Jan 2 with 1100 views | controversial_jack |
| Gaza latest on 11:05 - Jan 2 by onehunglow |
Whereas Russia and Iran supplying Hamas . |
They have had weapons from the Ukraine | | | |
| Gaza latest on 10:44 - Jan 3 with 1047 views | felixstowe_jack |
Iran has supplied both Russia and Hamas. Not sure what point you are trying to make? | |
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| Gaza latest on 12:38 - Jan 3 with 1028 views | controversial_jack |
| Gaza latest on 10:44 - Jan 3 by felixstowe_jack |
Iran has supplied both Russia and Hamas. Not sure what point you are trying to make? |
Russia makes it's own , and it's out producing the west even the US. It's economy is doing well too, despite the western propaganda
The point is, Ukraine has been selling weapons that it was given by the west | | | |
| Gaza latest on 14:22 - Jan 3 with 1008 views | controversial_jack |
Being against a particular regime is not the same as being against the ppl. Being against Zionism is not anti semitic. Palestinians are semites too. It could be argued that, by supporting Israel against the Palestinians that would be Islamophobia.
Jews going to Israel as a safe have? The war was over then and the NAZIs were defeated. Britain wanted them to assimilate back into Europe, but the Americans pushed for them to go to Israel. Truman was the first statesman to recognise Israel | | | |
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| Gaza latest on 19:42 - Jan 3 with 976 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Gaza latest on 14:22 - Jan 3 by controversial_jack |
Being against a particular regime is not the same as being against the ppl. Being against Zionism is not anti semitic. Palestinians are semites too. It could be argued that, by supporting Israel against the Palestinians that would be Islamophobia.
Jews going to Israel as a safe have? The war was over then and the NAZIs were defeated. Britain wanted them to assimilate back into Europe, but the Americans pushed for them to go to Israel. Truman was the first statesman to recognise Israel |
Why should Jews want to be assimilated back into Europe when they had been discriminated against for centuries particularly in Russia. Remember the Russian Pagroms. Why would the Jews want to return to Europe when half of it was under Russian occupation.
Returning to their historical Homeland Israel which existed thousands of years before Islam sermed perfectly logical and the United Nation decided to create Israel
The Arabs countries, most of which did not exist prior the end of Otterman rule, refused to accept and in fact Egypt invaded Palestinian gaza strip and Jordan invaded the West Bank. Both these area were designated as part of new Palistinian state it was the Arabs who denied the Palistinians the chance of being an independent state. | |
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| Gaza latest on 22:33 - Jan 3 with 961 views | jackrmee |
I liked another post of yours just now, but that is all absolute tosh | |
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| Gaza latest on 22:38 - Jan 3 with 959 views | jackrmee |
| Gaza latest on 14:22 - Jan 3 by controversial_jack |
Being against a particular regime is not the same as being against the ppl. Being against Zionism is not anti semitic. Palestinians are semites too. It could be argued that, by supporting Israel against the Palestinians that would be Islamophobia.
Jews going to Israel as a safe have? The war was over then and the NAZIs were defeated. Britain wanted them to assimilate back into Europe, but the Americans pushed for them to go to Israel. Truman was the first statesman to recognise Israel |
Definitely couldn’t have put it better myself 👏 | |
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| Gaza latest on 23:51 - Jan 3 with 941 views | controversial_jack |
| Gaza latest on 19:42 - Jan 3 by felixstowe_jack |
Why should Jews want to be assimilated back into Europe when they had been discriminated against for centuries particularly in Russia. Remember the Russian Pagroms. Why would the Jews want to return to Europe when half of it was under Russian occupation.
Returning to their historical Homeland Israel which existed thousands of years before Islam sermed perfectly logical and the United Nation decided to create Israel
The Arabs countries, most of which did not exist prior the end of Otterman rule, refused to accept and in fact Egypt invaded Palestinian gaza strip and Jordan invaded the West Bank. Both these area were designated as part of new Palistinian state it was the Arabs who denied the Palistinians the chance of being an independent state. |
Why would they want to go back to Europe,it’s where they had homes, lives and property. They would have spoken the language of their respected countries too. | | | |
| Gaza latest on 08:08 - Jan 4 with 897 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Gaza latest on 23:51 - Jan 3 by controversial_jack |
Why would they want to go back to Europe,it’s where they had homes, lives and property. They would have spoken the language of their respected countries too. |
Perhaps because millions of them wanted to live in their home country not be second class citizens in other countries. I doubt they had homes in Europe after the second World War particularly as any homes the had in Germany and the Russian occupied countries of Europe were long since destroyed. | |
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| Gaza latest on 13:11 - Jan 4 with 860 views | KeithHaynes |
USA and UK split the action with Russia.
If you recall the areas of Berlin were divided up to prevent these countries becoming hostile towards each other. |  |
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| Gaza latest on 13:55 - Jan 4 with 855 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Gaza latest on 23:51 - Jan 3 by controversial_jack |
Why would they want to go back to Europe,it’s where they had homes, lives and property. They would have spoken the language of their respected countries too. |
Yes it’s where they would have had such lovely memories like that time the brick went through the window and that occasion when Juden! was painted on their front door. Or that time uncle Otto was taken out and shot. They could have sat and reminisced fondly of the day soldiers burst in and dragged them all out to the ghetto. It’s those lovely memories of home that they would love to go back to, they caught a glimpse of home whilst they were on the packed train east. What an adventure! It was tough at the time but they can laugh and smile fondly now. |  |
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| Gaza latest on 14:13 - Jan 4 with 849 views | controversial_jack |
| Gaza latest on 13:55 - Jan 4 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yes it’s where they would have had such lovely memories like that time the brick went through the window and that occasion when Juden! was painted on their front door. Or that time uncle Otto was taken out and shot. They could have sat and reminisced fondly of the day soldiers burst in and dragged them all out to the ghetto. It’s those lovely memories of home that they would love to go back to, they caught a glimpse of home whilst they were on the packed train east. What an adventure! It was tough at the time but they can laugh and smile fondly now. |
Yes, good points, but those persecutors had long gone by then.They lost the war. I'm sure the good memories would be there too. I | | | |
| Gaza latest on 14:15 - Jan 4 with 849 views | controversial_jack |
| Gaza latest on 13:55 - Jan 4 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yes it’s where they would have had such lovely memories like that time the brick went through the window and that occasion when Juden! was painted on their front door. Or that time uncle Otto was taken out and shot. They could have sat and reminisced fondly of the day soldiers burst in and dragged them all out to the ghetto. It’s those lovely memories of home that they would love to go back to, they caught a glimpse of home whilst they were on the packed train east. What an adventure! It was tough at the time but they can laugh and smile fondly now. |
Yes, good points, but those persecutors had long gone by then.They lost the war. I'm sure the good memories would be there too. It was after all, where they were from. The middle east would have been and was an alien place , and not a peaceful one either and they would have had to start from scratch. A difficult decision and no simple answer. Who was correct us or the Yanks? | | | |
| Gaza latest on 19:54 - Jan 4 with 810 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Gaza latest on 14:15 - Jan 4 by controversial_jack |
Yes, good points, but those persecutors had long gone by then.They lost the war. I'm sure the good memories would be there too. It was after all, where they were from. The middle east would have been and was an alien place , and not a peaceful one either and they would have had to start from scratch. A difficult decision and no simple answer. Who was correct us or the Yanks? |
You seem to have forgotten when the Russians reached the outskirts of Warsaw and encouraged the Jews to revolt against the Germans. The Russian army let the German army massacre the Jews and only then did the fight the Germans in Warsaw. Is it any wonder why the Jews did not trust the Russian and chose not to live in any of the Russian occupied countries after tye war. | |
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| Gaza latest on 20:41 - Jan 4 with 792 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Gaza latest on 14:15 - Jan 4 by controversial_jack |
Yes, good points, but those persecutors had long gone by then.They lost the war. I'm sure the good memories would be there too. It was after all, where they were from. The middle east would have been and was an alien place , and not a peaceful one either and they would have had to start from scratch. A difficult decision and no simple answer. Who was correct us or the Yanks? |
What do you mean the persecutors had long gone? Millions of people voted for the Nazis. Ordinary people refused to use Jewish owned businesses. Ordinary people shouted abuse in the streets. Thousands walked past the ghettos every day with their noses in the air. You know most of those who returned ‘home’ had no homes to go to as they had been confiscated so ended up in another internment camp. | |
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| Gaza latest on 20:54 - Jan 4 with 784 views | KeithHaynes |
| Gaza latest on 13:11 - Jan 4 by KeithHaynes |
USA and UK split the action with Russia.
If you recall the areas of Berlin were divided up to prevent these countries becoming hostile towards each other. |
Better get ahold of the national archive and let them know. | |
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| Gaza latest on 23:00 - Jan 4 with 744 views | controversial_jack |
| Gaza latest on 20:41 - Jan 4 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
What do you mean the persecutors had long gone? Millions of people voted for the Nazis. Ordinary people refused to use Jewish owned businesses. Ordinary people shouted abuse in the streets. Thousands walked past the ghettos every day with their noses in the air. You know most of those who returned ‘home’ had no homes to go to as they had been confiscated so ended up in another internment camp. |
Not just Germany , there were jews from all over Europe that could have returned to their original countries, and many did.
The Germans were in no position to persecute anyone , they were too busy surviving | | | |
| Gaza latest on 10:35 - Jan 5 with 715 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Gaza latest on 23:00 - Jan 4 by controversial_jack |
Not just Germany , there were jews from all over Europe that could have returned to their original countries, and many did.
The Germans were in no position to persecute anyone , they were too busy surviving |
Poland, Hungary, Latvia, Estonis, Lithuanian, Romania East Germany, Austria, Bulgaria Czechoslovaki etc were all occupied by anti Semitic Russian. They wanted their freedom not persecution by the Russian who were as bad as the Germans. [Post edited 5 Jan 10:39]
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| Gaza latest on 14:07 - Jan 5 with 994 views | Daggyjack |
Think the Poles would disagree, as USSR attacked Poland with Germany in 1939 and then took complete control of the land following the war making Poland a satellite communist state of theirs up until the late 1980's. |  | | |
| Gaza latest on 18:14 - Jan 5 with 967 views | controversial_jack |
| Gaza latest on 14:07 - Jan 5 by Daggyjack |
Think the Poles would disagree, as USSR attacked Poland with Germany in 1939 and then took complete control of the land following the war making Poland a satellite communist state of theirs up until the late 1980's. |
It was the nazis that rounded up tens of thousands of jews to send them to camps. Many were just shot en route, taken to woods and shot in the back of the neck. Once again, the red army liberated many camps, inc Auschwitz Birkenau | | | |
| Gaza latest on 11:15 - Jan 6 with 940 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Gaza latest on 18:14 - Jan 5 by controversial_jack |
It was the nazis that rounded up tens of thousands of jews to send them to camps. Many were just shot en route, taken to woods and shot in the back of the neck. Once again, the red army liberated many camps, inc Auschwitz Birkenau |
Think you will find it was the Russian army that invaded Poland and rounded up all the captured Polish officers and murdered them on Stalin's orders. | |
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