| The 2024 General Election 14:36 - Oct 10 with 18338 views | johnlangy |
If Labour do win the 2024 General Election they will find themselves in a very strange situation regarding what they are able to achieve, at least in the short term.
People always want big, bold statements regarding huge investments in infrastructure, house building, energy developments to relieve our dependancy on other countries oil/gas and so on.
But I was struck by something Peter Kyle said yesterday. Labour will I’m sure make some major policy announcements but he also said this. Paraphrasing, he said it is shameful but it would be a huge achievement to get to a place where people could get an appointment with their GP, to get their NHS treatment that they’ve been waiting on for X years or to get a dental appointment.
He could have also said it would be an amazing achievement if, when people are mugged or their house is burgled that the police would turn up to investigate.
It’s a dreadful situation for the country to be in that the basic pillars of a civilised society aren’t there any more.
I’ve mentioned health but then there’s education (how many thousands of teachers are needed to fill all the vacancies which means our children’s education is suffering ?). And policing (see above) – the service is 20,000 officers short. No wonder the streets are becoming lawless. Then there’s the Prison Service and the CPS. It is all an utter shambles.
As far as I can see it all of this is down to one thing and that’s the austerity that the Conservatives have imposed on the country since 2010. They cut back massively in all departments in order to ‘bring the countries enormous debt down’. They asked that people accept the need for this pain and go along with it and that there was no other way to achieve the goal.
And after the pain of all that austerity where are we now ? In 2010 the debt was less than £1 trillion. It is now £2.6 trillion.
If they have cut back so enormously on spending, which by extension means that they were also able to cut back on borrowing, could someone explain to me where all this debt has come from ? |  | | |  |
| The 2024 General Election on 20:20 - Oct 18 with 1538 views | pencoedjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 19:58 - Oct 18 by Dr_Winston |
Nothing is going to change in Wales until the people who live outside the central CF postcode area stop voting for Politicians who continually fart in their faces. |
It won’t happen Dr. |  | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:01 - Oct 18 with 1504 views | builthjack |
Deaf when suits some people. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election on 21:33 - Oct 18 with 1483 views | Flashberryjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:01 - Oct 18 by builthjack |
Deaf when suits some people. |
Very true |  |
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| The 2024 General Election on 21:35 - Oct 18 with 1481 views | Boundy |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:01 - Oct 18 by builthjack |
Deaf when suits some people. |
I can honestly say I've never heard it sang and if I had I would say so , perhaps it may have been sang else where in the ground but not in earshot of my position | |
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| The 2024 General Election on 22:07 - Oct 18 with 1462 views | pencoedjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:35 - Oct 18 by Boundy |
I can honestly say I've never heard it sang and if I had I would say so , perhaps it may have been sang else where in the ground but not in earshot of my position |
It’s on TV in Welsh so I presume the majority of the country have the volume down. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 22:34 - Oct 18 with 1449 views | majorraglan |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:35 - Oct 18 by Boundy |
I can honestly say I've never heard it sang and if I had I would say so , perhaps it may have been sang else where in the ground but not in earshot of my position |
I was in the CCS on Sunday and can’t recall hearing it, but that’s not to say it wasn’t sung as there were a few chants that were quite difficult to make out. Sometimes the singing s clear and other times it’s not.
It’s not a song I’d sing. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 22:54 - Oct 18 with 1429 views | builthjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 22:34 - Oct 18 by majorraglan |
I was in the CCS on Sunday and can’t recall hearing it, but that’s not to say it wasn’t sung as there were a few chants that were quite difficult to make out. Sometimes the singing s clear and other times it’s not.
It’s not a song I’d sing. |
We were in the Ninian, about 80 yards from the Canton. The Red Wall in the Canton sang it for at least 2 minutes non stop. It was hard to miss it. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election on 23:32 - Oct 18 with 1430 views | majorraglan |
| The 2024 General Election on 22:54 - Oct 18 by builthjack |
We were in the Ninian, about 80 yards from the Canton. The Red Wall in the Canton sang it for at least 2 minutes non stop. It was hard to miss it. |
I’m not disputing what you’re saying, it’s just that I don’t recall hearing it. Sometimes the singing is hard to make out. | | | |
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| The 2024 General Election on 07:26 - Oct 19 with 1392 views | Gwyn737 |
| The 2024 General Election on 16:18 - Oct 17 by Gwyn737 |
Aren't they more fear of Labour?
I was asking what has 13 years of Tory govenment done to make people want to vote for them? |
Still no answers to this… | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 07:36 - Oct 19 with 1378 views | Whiterockin |
| The 2024 General Election on 07:26 - Oct 19 by Gwyn737 |
Still no answers to this… |
Possibly if I thought my local Conservative candidate was the best option to beat the Labour candidate in the Senedd elections I would vote for them, depending on the other options.
In a GE not a chance. |  | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 07:52 - Oct 19 with 1355 views | pencoedjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 07:36 - Oct 19 by Whiterockin |
Possibly if I thought my local Conservative candidate was the best option to beat the Labour candidate in the Senedd elections I would vote for them, depending on the other options.
In a GE not a chance. |
When the time comes I will vote for whoever I think will be best for mine but more importantly my kids/grandkids future.
100% I will not be voting labour in the next Senedd elections, anyone who does is a fool. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 08:03 - Oct 19 with 1346 views | Whiterockin |
| The 2024 General Election on 07:52 - Oct 19 by pencoedjack |
When the time comes I will vote for whoever I think will be best for mine but more importantly my kids/grandkids future.
100% I will not be voting labour in the next Senedd elections, anyone who does is a fool. |
Agreed, anyone who votes for the same again in either government is an idiot IMO. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 09:50 - Oct 19 with 1316 views | Whiterockin |
| The 2024 General Election on 16:18 - Oct 17 by Gwyn737 |
Aren't they more fear of Labour?
I was asking what has 13 years of Tory govenment done to make people want to vote for them? |
I wonder how the voting in the two by elections will go today, Mid Bedfordshire and Tamworth. Both strong Conservative seats, will the vote hold up and return Conservative MP's or will Labour continue their progress. This may answer your question one way or another. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 15:52 - Oct 19 with 1272 views | Gwyn737 |
| The 2024 General Election on 09:50 - Oct 19 by Whiterockin |
I wonder how the voting in the two by elections will go today, Mid Bedfordshire and Tamworth. Both strong Conservative seats, will the vote hold up and return Conservative MP's or will Labour continue their progress. This may answer your question one way or another. |
I think it's going to be very tight which would still represent huge swings. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 19:40 - Oct 19 with 1232 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:35 - Oct 18 by Boundy |
I can honestly say I've never heard it sang and if I had I would say so , perhaps it may have been sang else where in the ground but not in earshot of my position |
Well I've never hear di sung either. Plenty of football songs being sung but politcal songs for many verses by thousands of people?
Maybe a few people have sung it, not enough for most of the ground to hear but THOUSANDS singing it?
I shall be listening eagerly on Saturday. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 20:27 - Oct 19 with 1208 views | onehunglow |
| The 2024 General Election on 19:40 - Oct 19 by SullutaCreturned |
Well I've never hear di sung either. Plenty of football songs being sung but politcal songs for many verses by thousands of people?
Maybe a few people have sung it, not enough for most of the ground to hear but THOUSANDS singing it?
I shall be listening eagerly on Saturday. |
Maybe they’ve been lip synching | |
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| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 22:21 - Oct 19 with 1159 views | builthjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 19:40 - Oct 19 by SullutaCreturned |
Well I've never hear di sung either. Plenty of football songs being sung but politcal songs for many verses by thousands of people?
Maybe a few people have sung it, not enough for most of the ground to hear but THOUSANDS singing it?
I shall be listening eagerly on Saturday. |
Are you Thomas Edison ?
You must be.
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 22:30 - Oct 19 with 1155 views | Boundy |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 22:21 - Oct 19 by builthjack |
Are you Thomas Edison ?
You must be.
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Is there any chance of a recording being made available ? | |
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| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 22:52 - Oct 19 with 1133 views | builthjack |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 22:30 - Oct 19 by Boundy |
Is there any chance of a recording being made available ? |
If you like the song that much just join in. Clean those lugholes out first though, unless you are growing spuds in them. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 16:54 - Oct 20 with 1056 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 22:21 - Oct 19 by builthjack |
Are you Thomas Edison ?
You must be.
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Actually I had my hearing tested in work 2 weeks back and it's better than average for my age.
Are you Timothy Leary?
If what you say is true why is it nobody else seems to have heard it? Thosands of people make quite a bit of noise.
Like I said, I'll be listening for it tomorrow. I'llask my mates too, we all sit in different areas, surely one of us will have heard it. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 17:34 - Oct 20 with 1042 views | onehunglow |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 16:54 - Oct 20 by SullutaCreturned |
Actually I had my hearing tested in work 2 weeks back and it's better than average for my age.
Are you Timothy Leary?
If what you say is true why is it nobody else seems to have heard it? Thosands of people make quite a bit of noise.
Like I said, I'll be listening for it tomorrow. I'llask my mates too, we all sit in different areas, surely one of us will have heard it. |
My hearing is shot to pieces but it has its advantages ,in the home at least . | |
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| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 17:42 - Oct 20 with 1033 views | Togg |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 17:34 - Oct 20 by onehunglow |
My hearing is shot to pieces but it has its advantages ,in the home at least . |
You suffer from selective hearing. 98% of married men allegedly have this disease.  | | | |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 19:25 - Oct 20 with 990 views | onehunglow |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 17:42 - Oct 20 by Togg |
You suffer from selective hearing. 98% of married men allegedly have this disease. |
Eh  | |
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| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 20:39 - Oct 20 with 951 views | pencoedjack |
| The 2024 General Election (n/t) on 16:54 - Oct 20 by SullutaCreturned |
Actually I had my hearing tested in work 2 weeks back and it's better than average for my age.
Are you Timothy Leary?
If what you say is true why is it nobody else seems to have heard it? Thosands of people make quite a bit of noise.
Like I said, I'll be listening for it tomorrow. I'llask my mates too, we all sit in different areas, surely one of us will have heard it. |
Probably because nobody gives a toss | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:16 - Oct 20 with 920 views | raynor94 |
| The 2024 General Election on 22:33 - Oct 17 by builthjack |
At every football match that I have been to this season, Wales and Swansea games, thousands have sung Fu#£ the Tories for many verses.
So I would say that they haven’t got a hope in hells chance of getting in.
The singers could of course all be voting for the Greens. |
Sorry, never heard it at the Liberty |  |
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