| Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 512842 views | SgorioFruit |
Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 18:00 - Mar 16 with 2004 views | Oldjack |
Avoid socializing ,but schools to remain open ,wtf ! |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Corona Virus on 18:03 - Mar 16 with 1996 views | monmouth |
| Corona Virus on 17:48 - Mar 16 by ladyjack |
You seem to be changing your mind on the merits of the UKs response to the Coronavirus, I thought from your previous posts that you initially seemed quite positive but now you seem to be quite negative. |
Totally agnostic. It is the non testing of the strategy and the reasons that I object to. Just keeping on repeating ‘the science’. I have no idea if the strategy is right or wrong, but it’s increasingly looking to me like it is not really a planned strategy at all sounding like they have no confidence in what they have previously said Or the consequences of it. In which case that’s a different kettle of bananas. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 18:26 - Mar 16 with 1926 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 16:56 - Mar 16 by Professor |
Not as yet-but there is for other coronaviruses |
There are reports coming out that, as hoped, this virus is being affected by sunlight. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 18:41 - Mar 16 with 1883 views | hobo |
| Corona Virus on 18:26 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001 |
There are reports coming out that, as hoped, this virus is being affected by sunlight. |
Where is that being reported? |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 18:48 - Mar 16 with 1866 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 18:41 - Mar 16 by hobo |
Where is that being reported? |
Research done by Hong Kong University.
I can’t remember where I read it. They said that it was an early report and not certain, but they had grown the virus in the lab and had subjected it to different temperatures / UV etc and had found it was weakened.
As I read it, it’s very early days though for them to know for sure, but there are a lot of tests being done to see if that conclusion is right or not. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 18:55 - Mar 16 with 1840 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 18:48 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001 |
Research done by Hong Kong University.
I can’t remember where I read it. They said that it was an early report and not certain, but they had grown the virus in the lab and had subjected it to different temperatures / UV etc and had found it was weakened.
As I read it, it’s very early days though for them to know for sure, but there are a lot of tests being done to see if that conclusion is right or not. |
You can't remember, that's a pity it would have been interesting to see that. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:08 - Mar 16 with 1800 views | londonlisa2001 |
It’s changing rapidly though.
That’s in response to an assumption. There are studies being done all the time at the moment. | | | |
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| Corona Virus on 19:09 - Mar 16 with 1796 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 18:48 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001 |
Research done by Hong Kong University.
I can’t remember where I read it. They said that it was an early report and not certain, but they had grown the virus in the lab and had subjected it to different temperatures / UV etc and had found it was weakened.
As I read it, it’s very early days though for them to know for sure, but there are a lot of tests being done to see if that conclusion is right or not. |
Based on other coronavirus & Flu tests they like temperatures below 30C with low humidity.
Which doesn't help a lot of the northern hemisphere.
There doesn't appear to be any correlation for COV 19 yet.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/no-correlation-bet
Testing continues. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 19:44]
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| Corona Virus on 19:26 - Mar 16 with 1729 views | ladyjack |
What about sunlight ? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:31 - Mar 16 with 1706 views | londonlisa2001 |
That’s a different study I saw also.
All this stuff is changing rapidly.
If you look at the worldometers site, which gives the most comprehensive real time stats, the death / critical cases rates in warmer / sunnier countries seems (at the moment at least) to be noticeably lower than you’d expect from total cases. With the caveat that it depend on accuracy of info, there may be a link. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 19:32]
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| Corona Virus on 19:35 - Mar 16 with 1686 views | JacketJack |
| Corona Virus on 19:31 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001 |
That’s a different study I saw also.
All this stuff is changing rapidly.
If you look at the worldometers site, which gives the most comprehensive real time stats, the death / critical cases rates in warmer / sunnier countries seems (at the moment at least) to be noticeably lower than you’d expect from total cases. With the caveat that it depend on accuracy of info, there may be a link. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 19:32]
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It's 80F and humid in Florida. It's spreading like fire |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:40 - Mar 16 with 1666 views | PozuelosSideys |
Im struggling with some of the modelled numbers.
So the original scenario 1 predicted 260,000 deaths based on isolation, quarantine and socia distancing, with more aggressive measures cutting the death rate in half. We have a population of C.60m.
China has a population of 1.4 billion yet recorded around 3,200 deaths and they think they are over the worst. Im assuming our "more aggressive measures" are similar to what China put in place.
Im finding it hard to believe that we have 4% of their population but a potential 8000% actual mortality rate? [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 19:44]
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| Corona Virus on 19:45 - Mar 16 with 1647 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 19:35 - Mar 16 by JacketJack |
It's 80F and humid in Florida. It's spreading like fire |
The study seemed to suggest it’s less the cases and more severity of cases that may be affected?
I’ve no idea how many cases there are that are critical in Florida or deaths? It has quite a concentration of old people so that may effect it.
Anyway, I’m not attempting to argue whether the study is right or not - i just said I’d read about it and the numbers in some parts of the world seem to be lower than one would expect if all was equal. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:47 - Mar 16 with 1639 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 19:40 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys |
Im struggling with some of the modelled numbers.
So the original scenario 1 predicted 260,000 deaths based on isolation, quarantine and socia distancing, with more aggressive measures cutting the death rate in half. We have a population of C.60m.
China has a population of 1.4 billion yet recorded around 3,200 deaths and they think they are over the worst. Im assuming our "more aggressive measures" are similar to what China put in place.
Im finding it hard to believe that we have 4% of their population but a potential 8000% actual mortality rate? [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 19:44]
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I don't think our more aggressive measurements are anywhere near to what China did. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:49 - Mar 16 with 1633 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Corona Virus on 19:47 - Mar 16 by ladyjack |
I don't think our more aggressive measurements are anywhere near to what China did. |
Im not sure i trust your ability to think tbh given the nonsense youve posted on this thread. | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Corona Virus on 19:49 - Mar 16 with 1631 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 19:31 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001 |
That’s a different study I saw also.
All this stuff is changing rapidly.
If you look at the worldometers site, which gives the most comprehensive real time stats, the death / critical cases rates in warmer / sunnier countries seems (at the moment at least) to be noticeably lower than you’d expect from total cases. With the caveat that it depend on accuracy of info, there may be a link. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 19:32]
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Nowhere near as much as how those countries have reacted, most of them suffered badly with SARS and have implemented tests, tracking, masks, washing and social distancing.
The masks don't just protect the healthy by reducing the visuses that get to them, it also reduces the spread of the virus from the sick person when they cough or sneeze containing them within the mask. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:50 - Mar 16 with 1624 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 19:40 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys |
Im struggling with some of the modelled numbers.
So the original scenario 1 predicted 260,000 deaths based on isolation, quarantine and socia distancing, with more aggressive measures cutting the death rate in half. We have a population of C.60m.
China has a population of 1.4 billion yet recorded around 3,200 deaths and they think they are over the worst. Im assuming our "more aggressive measures" are similar to what China put in place.
Im finding it hard to believe that we have 4% of their population but a potential 8000% actual mortality rate? [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 19:44]
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Because the numbers you are using for the UK are not time limited whereas the numbers you are using for China are limited to the first couple of months.
Unless they keep people in lockdown forever, at some point they’ll come out and the virus will then infect more. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:52 - Mar 16 with 1620 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 19:49 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys |
Im not sure i trust your ability to think tbh given the nonsense youve posted on this thread. |
You don't know what China did by the sound of it otherwise you would not try and compare apples and oranges. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:55 - Mar 16 with 1605 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 19:50 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001 |
Because the numbers you are using for the UK are not time limited whereas the numbers you are using for China are limited to the first couple of months.
Unless they keep people in lockdown forever, at some point they’ll come out and the virus will then infect more. |
Keep who in lockdown ? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:00 - Mar 16 with 1587 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Corona Virus on 19:50 - Mar 16 by londonlisa2001 |
Because the numbers you are using for the UK are not time limited whereas the numbers you are using for China are limited to the first couple of months.
Unless they keep people in lockdown forever, at some point they’ll come out and the virus will then infect more. |
Possibly, but they are wildly different, no? Fag packet stuff obviously, but population density, living standards etc in that part of China in particular are considerably different and likely to swing in UKs "favour". Geared up, China would be expecting 6million deaths. Finding that hard to believe.
Agree about the removal of lockdown though. What are they going to do, keep people in there forever or are they playing a waiting game hoping for some sort of vaccine. Brave move tbh. | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Corona Virus on 20:08 - Mar 16 with 1547 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 20:00 - Mar 16 by PozuelosSideys |
Possibly, but they are wildly different, no? Fag packet stuff obviously, but population density, living standards etc in that part of China in particular are considerably different and likely to swing in UKs "favour". Geared up, China would be expecting 6million deaths. Finding that hard to believe.
Agree about the removal of lockdown though. What are they going to do, keep people in there forever or are they playing a waiting game hoping for some sort of vaccine. Brave move tbh. |
Keep who in forever ? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:17 - Mar 16 with 1518 views | Professor |
| Corona Virus on 19:35 - Mar 16 by JacketJack |
It's 80F and humid in Florida. It's spreading like fire |
Generally both viruses and bacteria like warm and humid-tropical weather. Dry and sunny is harder. UV tends to lead to lethal mutations in genomes (not unlike cancer) | | | |
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