| Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 512556 views | SgorioFruit |
Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 13:59 - Mar 14 with 1762 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 13:42 - Mar 14 by LeonWasGod |
Yes, that’s an interesting thread. And he points out it’s a gamble that nobody knows will work or not, and the humane element relies on aggressively protecting the vulnerable which doesn’t appear to be happening yet. So I can understand why people are worried.
There’s also a letter from health professionals in the Times asking the government to be transparent in their decision making or risk losing the public’s trust. I think we’re at that point already, which is why so many groups are making decisions contrary to govt advice (e.g. postponement of football). |
That is my thoughts as well Leon, the Government want football and rugby events to go ahead, spread the virus, let's have it and get on with the herd plan attitude but other bodies are acting on their own and banning events, I think Lisa said she would not go to a game which is going against the plan that she is backing, oh you have to laugh. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:01 - Mar 14 with 1758 views | legoman |
Can I pose a question to those who are advocating a lock down policy as opposed to what the UK government is implementing? And before anyone responds, I DON' T know the answer and I am NOT trying to score points
So you are in Italy and you have locked down 60 million people. They have been in that state for more than 2 weeks and are beginning to get antsy. The new infection rate seems to be dropping. On May 1st you decide to ease the lockdown and people start moving around again.
Meanwhile the virus has not gone to Mars. It's still around kicking it's heels waiting to strike again.
All of a sudden 60 million people are back on the scene with a very low level of immunity across the population.
What will happen? What actions do you take? What if you had managed to get even 30% immunity across the population? |  |
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| Corona Virus on 14:07 - Mar 14 with 1724 views | dickythorpe |
Civil unrest is my concern. Trying to contain and dictate to people not to socialise or move about will take some doing.
I mean some can't even wash their hands after using the toilet or put rubbish in a bin!!!
Maybe as Bryn says in another thread "natural selection".... |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:07 - Mar 14 with 1726 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 13:53 - Mar 14 by londonlisa2001 |
No. As usual you don’t understand (or pretend you don’t).
He says they think whatever they do people will get infected, so they are trying to control the rate.
And no sh*t Sherlock.
Everyone knows that. |
So point 4 says "The UKs want infection BUT of particular categories of people."
And point 5 says ""at the moment the Government wants people to get infected, up until hospitals reach capacity" | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:11 - Mar 14 with 1704 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 13:59 - Mar 14 by ladyjack |
That is my thoughts as well Leon, the Government want football and rugby events to go ahead, spread the virus, let's have it and get on with the herd plan attitude but other bodies are acting on their own and banning events, I think Lisa said she would not go to a game which is going against the plan that she is backing, oh you have to laugh. |
I haven’t said I’m backing the plan.
I’ve said you are misrepresenting what the plan is.
I’ve said no one knows what the best thing to do is.
Why have you started trolling again today? Do you find this funny? |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:12 - Mar 14 with 1704 views | ladyjack |
Points 8 & 9 are very interesting, about using school children and big events to infect people when they want too. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:15 - Mar 14 with 1692 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 14:07 - Mar 14 by ladyjack |
So point 4 says "The UKs want infection BUT of particular categories of people."
And point 5 says ""at the moment the Government wants people to get infected, up until hospitals reach capacity" |
Which is exactly what I’ve said over the last few days.
And the thread states clearly that the thinking is based on the premise that you can’t stop infections happening. Which is also what I’ve just said.
Stop misrepresenting everything deliberately troll boy.
You have to be of a certain character to attempt to troll threads where people are scared. Have a think about that perhaps? You make me despair of humanity to be honest. | | | |
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| Corona Virus on 14:17 - Mar 14 with 1679 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 14:12 - Mar 14 by ladyjack |
Points 8 & 9 are very interesting, about using school children and big events to infect people when they want too. |
Don’t selectively quote a long, long thread.
What you are doing is dangerous.
F*** off. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:19 - Mar 14 with 1662 views | Jackfath |
School holidays are 3 weeks away. then 2 weeks where people will be with their grandparents anyway eating easter eggs and hot cross buns with lashings of butter. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 14:20 - Mar 14 with 1661 views | londonlisa2001 |
It’s not ‘just in’. It was a few weeks ago, and subsequently found to be someone who hadn’t been reinfected but who wasn’t recovered when released.
Look at the date on the article. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:25 - Mar 14 with 1642 views | ladyjack |
The UKs plan is ballsy it's the only phrase I can think of but I can't help thinking that it's like a Nazi plan, survival of the fittest, if the weak die the weak die, etc, who knows what will or won't work but even if it turns out to be a better way of tackling the problem it's distasteful to me, the end justifying the means and all that, sacrificing ones granny and not doing much to save her does not seem right to me, other countries even if they are wrong are trying to save everybody we seem to be willing to sacrifice our old and weak and that does not sit comfortably with me. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:25 - Mar 14 with 1636 views | theloneranger |
UK deaths have just doubled in 24 hours, going up by 10, taking the total to 21. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 14:33 - Mar 14 with 1603 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 14:17 - Mar 14 by londonlisa2001 |
Don’t selectively quote a long, long thread.
What you are doing is dangerous.
F*** off. |
She's gone, I've got under skin yet again, she has totally lost all control yet again, lol.
He has put 15 bullet points up, I fully quoted 4 of them in their entirety, he says what he says and that's it. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:35 - Mar 14 with 1592 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 14:25 - Mar 14 by theloneranger |
UK deaths have just doubled in 24 hours, going up by 10, taking the total to 21. |
Dreadful that anyone will die of a disease that didn’t exist a matter of months ago.
The trouble is that each death seems like a huge issue (obviously they are for everyone affected) and yet none of us are aware any other year of people dying with flu (unless we are directly affected). So the levels of stress and panic are being stoked up to the point that people will become ill with worrying. Not helped by trolls of course who are loving it. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:35 - Mar 14 with 1588 views | Thebus |
| Corona Virus on 14:07 - Mar 14 by dickythorpe |
Civil unrest is my concern. Trying to contain and dictate to people not to socialise or move about will take some doing.
I mean some can't even wash their hands after using the toilet or put rubbish in a bin!!!
Maybe as Bryn says in another thread "natural selection".... |
Try and lock people down for to long and you are correct, there’d be an uprising. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:39 - Mar 14 with 1571 views | WxmJax |
Apparently, NHS in Swansea moving quickly with their plans. Singleton being cleared and readied as the Corona virus hospital and everything else to be up at Morriston. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 14:39 - Mar 14 with 1568 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 14:33 - Mar 14 by ladyjack |
She's gone, I've got under skin yet again, she has totally lost all control yet again, lol.
He has put 15 bullet points up, I fully quoted 4 of them in their entirety, he says what he says and that's it. |
The thread has many posts and replies from the professor. Not just 15.
You don’t get under my skin. You are trying to troll people and wind them up and scare them when you know that people are concerned. You’re a complete waste of time. I simply can’t understand the mindset of people like you. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:40 - Mar 14 with 1567 views | ladyjack |
| Corona Virus on 14:35 - Mar 14 by Thebus |
Try and lock people down for to long and you are correct, there’d be an uprising. |
Pity those living in towns or cities, those of us that have several acres for a garden will be able to get out and about, townies and city dwellers might end up going stir crazy. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:40 - Mar 14 with 1562 views | legoman |
| Corona Virus on 14:25 - Mar 14 by ladyjack |
The UKs plan is ballsy it's the only phrase I can think of but I can't help thinking that it's like a Nazi plan, survival of the fittest, if the weak die the weak die, etc, who knows what will or won't work but even if it turns out to be a better way of tackling the problem it's distasteful to me, the end justifying the means and all that, sacrificing ones granny and not doing much to save her does not seem right to me, other countries even if they are wrong are trying to save everybody we seem to be willing to sacrifice our old and weak and that does not sit comfortably with me. |
I don't agree and I think you are being sensationalist.
The strategy is to build up immunity to protect the more vulnerable. The elderly and those with complex conditions probably are less socially mobile than the 18-50 group and children. The younger groups are also the sections of the public that are probably likely to display a modest response to the disease. Allowing them to build up immunity would seem to be a sensible idea.
Surely its better to try and get a proportion of the population to develop immunity? There is no vaccination alternative.
You seem to be obsessed with the notion that the UK is going to sacrifice part of the population for the greater good when I don't believe that is the case. | |
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| Corona Virus on 14:41 - Mar 14 with 1558 views | A_Fans_Dad |
I have never come across anyone with the expertise of weasel words as Lisa.
She point blank will not admit Boris and his experts were wrong even though the WHO says they are.
She re-iterates their poorly though out excuses for why they are doing what they wanted to do, (which was not much).
Let's just take a couple
Schools staying open - excuse "if you close the schools the kids will have to be looked after by the vurnerable. The reality assume that 15% currently have the virus, in another 2 weeks that will nearer 30%-40%, so more infected kids will need looking after. As well as that for those 2 weeks those kids will show very few symptoms and will NOT self isolate, infecting every adult that come is close contact with them.
Not Stopping major events like Football matches and Festivals etc - excuse open air is safer than enclosed spaces. The reality, how do most fans get to big matches, not by car, by Coach & Train ie enclosed spaces.
What about when at a match, the fans go through turnstyles a lovely way to "surface transfer" the virus as are doors, taps in toilets, handrails on stairs and eating places.
She gobbles up the crap and repeats it without any critical thinking whatsoever and then blames disenters who point out the errors as scaremongering.
She wrote that posters said that the Gov want people to die, that is not what was said, we said they want people to get the virus. But they couldn't give a flying F about how many die, callous beyond belief.
Her sudden about turn over experts is beyond a comedy, when it comes to Climate Change or Berixit or Wind Turbines the expert consensus rules, now she says they don't for COV19.
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| Corona Virus on 14:42 - Mar 14 with 1548 views | hobo |
So we're at 21 deaths, 18 recovered?
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| Corona Virus on 14:43 - Mar 14 with 1546 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 14:40 - Mar 14 by legoman |
I don't agree and I think you are being sensationalist.
The strategy is to build up immunity to protect the more vulnerable. The elderly and those with complex conditions probably are less socially mobile than the 18-50 group and children. The younger groups are also the sections of the public that are probably likely to display a modest response to the disease. Allowing them to build up immunity would seem to be a sensible idea.
Surely its better to try and get a proportion of the population to develop immunity? There is no vaccination alternative.
You seem to be obsessed with the notion that the UK is going to sacrifice part of the population for the greater good when I don't believe that is the case. |
He’s a troll.
He’s trying to wind people up because he thinks it’s funny. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:44 - Mar 14 with 1539 views | Thebus |
| Corona Virus on 14:42 - Mar 14 by hobo |
So we're at 21 deaths, 18 recovered?
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Nonsense | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:45 - Mar 14 with 1536 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 14:41 - Mar 14 by A_Fans_Dad |
I have never come across anyone with the expertise of weasel words as Lisa.
She point blank will not admit Boris and his experts were wrong even though the WHO says they are.
She re-iterates their poorly though out excuses for why they are doing what they wanted to do, (which was not much).
Let's just take a couple
Schools staying open - excuse "if you close the schools the kids will have to be looked after by the vurnerable. The reality assume that 15% currently have the virus, in another 2 weeks that will nearer 30%-40%, so more infected kids will need looking after. As well as that for those 2 weeks those kids will show very few symptoms and will NOT self isolate, infecting every adult that come is close contact with them.
Not Stopping major events like Football matches and Festivals etc - excuse open air is safer than enclosed spaces. The reality, how do most fans get to big matches, not by car, by Coach & Train ie enclosed spaces.
What about when at a match, the fans go through turnstyles a lovely way to "surface transfer" the virus as are doors, taps in toilets, handrails on stairs and eating places.
She gobbles up the crap and repeats it without any critical thinking whatsoever and then blames disenters who point out the errors as scaremongering.
She wrote that posters said that the Gov want people to die, that is not what was said, we said they want people to get the virus. But they couldn't give a flying F about how many die, callous beyond belief.
Her sudden about turn over experts is beyond a comedy, when it comes to Climate Change or Berixit or Wind Turbines the expert consensus rules, now she says they don't for COV19.
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I have said repeatedly I have no idea whether he’s right or wrong.
I can’t stand Johnson. I think he’s wrong on basically everything. But he’s listening to his experts.
Stop twisting what is being said ffs. | | | |
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