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The Death of the 'Left' 01:24 - Sep 27 with 7516 viewsKerouac

It seems to me that Brexit sounds the final bell for the 'Left wing' in this country.

They have deserted their principles,
deserted their voters,
deserted democracy,
deserted the real world (evident in Parliament right now as they prefer to exist in their bubble, enjoying the platform and the sound of their own voices...pretending they haven't got to face the public)

My questions for you to discuss;
Will the Labour Party be destroyed at the coming election?
Will they continue to be the opposition?
When are we likely to see a left-wing government in this country again?


This fella seems to have summed it up as well as anyone...



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The Death of the 'Left' on 19:21 - Sep 28 with 1042 viewsWarwickHunt

The Death of the 'Left' on 17:53 - Sep 28 by ladyjack

The left died in this country in 1983.
The Berlin wall came down in 1989.
The USSR collapsed in 1991.
Hong Kong was passed to the China in 1997 and stayed capitalist.

This post is 30 odd years out of date.

NuLabour, Conservatives, Lib-Dems, Brexit party, UKIP etc are all right wing, the state broadcaster is right wing, most of the national newspapers are right wing and the EU is right wing.
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...and you’re a right fûcking twàt.
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The Death of the 'Left' (n/t) on 19:30 - Sep 28 with 1026 viewsJack_Meoff

The Death of the 'Left' on 17:30 - Sep 28 by bluey_the_blue

Tories did indeed bring in PFI under Major. It was however, not that widely used. PFI exploded under Labour... then less deals were brought in when Tories back in power.


You'll never grasp it will you?

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If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.

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The Death of the 'Left' on 22:35 - Sep 28 with 989 viewsTNT

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The Death of the 'Left' on 22:38 - Sep 28 with 981 viewsNookiejack

High chance of Jeremy Corbyn being next PM if a no confidence vote is held over next few weeks.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 22:40 - Sep 28 with 979 viewsNookiejack

The Death of the 'Left' on 22:38 - Sep 28 by Nookiejack

High chance of Jeremy Corbyn being next PM if a no confidence vote is held over next few weeks.


Cross party Remainees likely to back him as interim PM to ask EU for an extension.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 22:57 - Sep 28 with 963 viewsmajorraglan

The Death of the 'Left' on 22:40 - Sep 28 by Nookiejack

Cross party Remainees likely to back him as interim PM to ask EU for an extension.


I don’t think Corbyn would be an electable position to the masses but you never know. In terms of Brexit and stopping the no deal I’d have thought Grieve or Clarke would draw a larger cross section of support. I think Clarke would relish it.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 23:52 - Sep 28 with 937 viewsHighjack

The Death of the 'Left' on 22:57 - Sep 28 by majorraglan

I don’t think Corbyn would be an electable position to the masses but you never know. In terms of Brexit and stopping the no deal I’d have thought Grieve or Clarke would draw a larger cross section of support. I think Clarke would relish it.


If it’s just a temporary PM to keep us in the EU at all costs then call a GE surely it doesn’t matter who it is.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 08:59 - Sep 29 with 865 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Death of the 'Left' on 23:52 - Sep 28 by Highjack

If it’s just a temporary PM to keep us in the EU at all costs then call a GE surely it doesn’t matter who it is.


It won’t be “at all costs” it would be pending the outcome of an election of referendum.

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The Death of the 'Left' on 13:42 - Sep 29 with 817 viewsHighjack

The Death of the 'Left' on 08:59 - Sep 29 by exiledclaseboy

It won’t be “at all costs” it would be pending the outcome of an election of referendum.


Exactly so why does it matter who it is? All this “I won’t support Corbyn it has to be Clarke” nonsense is pointless if all the person needs to do is extend, call an election and dismiss parliament.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 14:16 - Sep 29 with 800 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Death of the 'Left' on 13:42 - Sep 29 by Highjack

Exactly so why does it matter who it is? All this “I won’t support Corbyn it has to be Clarke” nonsense is pointless if all the person needs to do is extend, call an election and dismiss parliament.


Completely agree with you.

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The Death of the 'Left' on 14:19 - Sep 29 with 798 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Death of the 'Left' on 13:42 - Sep 29 by Highjack

Exactly so why does it matter who it is? All this “I won’t support Corbyn it has to be Clarke” nonsense is pointless if all the person needs to do is extend, call an election and dismiss parliament.


There's a degree of trust in it though. Until calling the election and getting that through, whoever acts as PM has full PM power and access.

EDIT: If it did happen, then it has to be someone everyone can trust. Clarke would be a safe pair of hands, standing down next election anyway.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 14:22 - Sep 29 with 792 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Death of the 'Left' on 14:19 - Sep 29 by bluey_the_blue

There's a degree of trust in it though. Until calling the election and getting that through, whoever acts as PM has full PM power and access.

EDIT: If it did happen, then it has to be someone everyone can trust. Clarke would be a safe pair of hands, standing down next election anyway.
[Post edited 29 Sep 2019 14:25]


But will be able to do nothing without a majority in Parliament for anything other than dissolving it for an election

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The Death of the 'Left' on 15:33 - Sep 29 with 766 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The Death of the 'Left' on 23:52 - Sep 28 by Highjack

If it’s just a temporary PM to keep us in the EU at all costs then call a GE surely it doesn’t matter who it is.


If he has a majority who is going to call the GE, not him that is for sure.
They will have to have a no confidence vote to get rid of him.
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