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Why do we need a new socialist pro independence group then Tramp if Plaid are socialist and pro independence and all the other parties are far right extremists?
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 12:46 - Dec 11 by Highjack
Why do we need a new socialist pro independence group then Tramp if Plaid are socialist and pro independence and all the other parties are far right extremists?
They probably want a hard hitting party not afraid to talk and major on independence and socialism, many people think that Plaid are seen as too nicey nice and walk on egg shells to try and avoid upsetting anyone.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 13:00 - Dec 11 by trampie
They probably want a hard hitting party not afraid to talk and major on independence and socialism, many people think that Plaid are seen as too nicey nice and walk on egg shells to try and avoid upsetting anyone.
Ok so it's an alternative to Plaid's incompetence?
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 13:00 - Dec 11 by trampie
They probably want a hard hitting party not afraid to talk and major on independence and socialism, many people think that Plaid are seen as too nicey nice and walk on egg shells to try and avoid upsetting anyone.
This new lot will allow Stan to identify as a woman. The spoil-sports at Ein Gwlad were having none of it, being Fascists and all.
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New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 13:34 - Dec 11 with 3296 views
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 13:34 - Dec 11 by Ebo
I can’t wait to read the manifesto, can you? What joy to be hectored by a handful of second-year politics undergrads on their misreading of Chalybaus’s interpretation of the Hegelian Dialectic. I doubt I’ll be able to sleep tonight with the excitement of it all.
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New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 13:54 - Dec 11 with 3273 views
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 13:49 - Dec 11 by Lohengrin
I can’t wait to read the manifesto, can you? What joy to be hectored by a handful of second-year politics undergrads on their misreading of Chalybaus’s interpretation of the Hegelian Dialectic. I doubt I’ll be able to sleep tonight with the excitement of it all.
Loving 1[1]and 1[iii] as well as 2[ii] and what I assume is 3[iii] .
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Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 14:06 - Dec 11 by trampie
Loving 1[1]and 1[iii] as well as 2[ii] and what I assume is 3[iii] .
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I loved this when I happened across it. Listen to the little maggot from 0:58 on, Tramp. If this is what they hope to sell in Cardiganshire, how long do you reckon the queue will be to buy?
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New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 15:36 - Dec 11 with 3170 views
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 15:36 - Dec 11 by trampie
You'll never be an Englishman.
All joking aside Gary Younge isn’t an ‘Englishman,’ is he? He can be and is a ‘British’ citizen but if we take the term literally he’s not a descendant of the Angles in exactly the same way as you or I having been born in or moving to Dakota wouldn’t make us Sioux.
I mean, we could put feathers in our hair and do a rain dance for three weeks solid you and I, and I can move a bit, I’d be pretty good at it, but the old Chief he’d just be stood there puffing away implacably on his pipe thinking “why me, Great Spirit? What have I done to deserve this pair of idiots from Glamorgan moithering me for moccasins?”
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New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 16:04 - Dec 11 with 3146 views
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 16:04 - Dec 11 by trampie
Was he born in England Lohengrin ?, does he live in England ?...………………. your definition is not the same as some other peoples definition.
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Perhaps and probably, I couldn’t tell you, but what I can say with absolute certainty having read him quite a bit is that Younge’s ethnicity, his ‘blackness,’ is something he holds dear. He would reject outright any attempt to strip him of that and place his identity elsewhere.
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New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 16:16 - Dec 11 with 3128 views
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 13:49 - Dec 11 by Lohengrin
I can’t wait to read the manifesto, can you? What joy to be hectored by a handful of second-year politics undergrads on their misreading of Chalybaus’s interpretation of the Hegelian Dialectic. I doubt I’ll be able to sleep tonight with the excitement of it all.
I prefer Prodigy's take on it, it's a Revelation!!
Anyway, how many Welsh Indy party's do we need? At this rate we'll have more Indy supporting groups than people!
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 16:15 - Dec 11 by Lohengrin
Perhaps and probably, I couldn’t tell you, but what I can say with absolute certainty having read him quite a bit is that Younge’s ethnicity, his ‘blackness,’ is something he holds dear. He would reject outright any attempt to strip him of that and place his identity elsewhere.
What he is a Neath supporter.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 16:16 - Dec 11 by Catullus
I prefer Prodigy's take on it, it's a Revelation!!
Anyway, how many Welsh Indy party's do we need? At this rate we'll have more Indy supporting groups than people!
Seventy eight by 2020. We’re up to thirty seven now, so they’re getting there.
A Major ideological difference lies at the root of this latest split: Is it permissible to use tinned Laverbread on a Bank Holiday because the market is closed? Uproar there was! Several had to be pulled apart, poor old Iestyn in the Chair was heard imploring in vain “come on now boys, we’ve all had a good drink...”
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New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 17:01 - Dec 11 with 3079 views
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 13:00 - Dec 11 by trampie
They probably want a hard hitting party not afraid to talk and major on independence and socialism, many people think that Plaid are seen as too nicey nice and walk on egg shells to try and avoid upsetting anyone.
I used to be a Plaid supporter Trampie but stopped because of 2 reasons:
1. A breach of confidentiality where something I said in confidence was then used for party political advantage
2. I no longer know what Plaid really stands for.
There's an obsession with socialism which, for me, means achieving equality by making everyone poor which is a pernicious policy. They need to advocate a policy of beneficial socialist policy of making everyone richer (which sadly not even the Tories are doing).
New Welsh socialist pro-independence group forming. on 19:04 - Dec 11 by PentyrchJack
I used to be a Plaid supporter Trampie but stopped because of 2 reasons:
1. A breach of confidentiality where something I said in confidence was then used for party political advantage
2. I no longer know what Plaid really stands for.
There's an obsession with socialism which, for me, means achieving equality by making everyone poor which is a pernicious policy. They need to advocate a policy of beneficial socialist policy of making everyone richer (which sadly not even the Tories are doing).
What did you say , can you expand on that ?
I don't think they want to make everyone poorer, there is only so much in the pot whatever you do with taxation, socialists see it fairer to spread the wealth more equally as opposed to most of the money going to the elite.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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