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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? 18:02 - Nov 15 with 19669 viewsGloryHunter

Gove has been playing a canny long game. If I were a betting man I'd say he was worth a tenner at 10/1. (Actually Corbyn is favourite at 5/1, but surely if May was dumped by the Tories, they'd have to elect a new leader, who would become PM temporarily until Labour could form a coalition, or until a general election?)
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 22:56 - Nov 16 with 2446 views2Thomas2Bowles

Rudd d'hell
How does she get another job

We talk about the merry-go-round of managers, it's just as bad with mp's

When willl this CV nightmare end
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 23:02 - Nov 16 with 2443 viewsCiderwithRsie

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 22:56 - Nov 16 by 2Thomas2Bowles

Rudd d'hell
How does she get another job

We talk about the merry-go-round of managers, it's just as bad with mp's


I think you're onto something here. Redknapp for Brexit Minister! Big Sam for Foreign Secretary!
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 19:45 - Nov 17 with 2282 viewsGloryHunter

Gove closing in now:

Corbyn 5
Johnson 8
Javid 8
Gove 8
Davies 12
Rees-Mogg 12
Raab 12

And watch out for dark horse Emily Thornberry at 40/1. Again, this would seem to imply May hanging on for the full term till 2022, and Thornberry replacing Corbyn as Labour leader by then.
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 19:50 - Nov 17 with 2279 viewsderbyhoop

I can see Gove as next PM.
My wife worked in the education sector when he was SoS for Education,. Ideology trampled all over common sense.
He's a slippery, slimy slug of a man, with his only redeeming feature being the team he supports

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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 20:13 - Nov 17 with 2265 viewskensalriser

May's going nowhere. Even if they manage to trigger the vote of no confidence she'll win it.

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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 20:57 - Nov 17 with 2227 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 19:45 - Nov 17 by GloryHunter

Gove closing in now:

Corbyn 5
Johnson 8
Javid 8
Gove 8
Davies 12
Rees-Mogg 12
Raab 12

And watch out for dark horse Emily Thornberry at 40/1. Again, this would seem to imply May hanging on for the full term till 2022, and Thornberry replacing Corbyn as Labour leader by then.


Thornberry won't make it past the MoMembership who will not settle for anything less than a true Socialist. She's got some dubious connections through her husband too.

Next Labour leader post Jeremy will be female though, and left wing. If we get to 2022 and he's not PM my money is on Laura Pidcock, Laura Smith, Emma Dent Coed, or Dawn Butler.

Laura Smith by the way...

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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 21:05 - Nov 17 with 2221 viewsGloryHunter

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 20:13 - Nov 17 by kensalriser

May's going nowhere. Even if they manage to trigger the vote of no confidence she'll win it.


The DATE when the next Prime Minister is elected is a different market. Some time in 2019 is favourite:

2019 11/8
2018 9/4
2020 or later 5/2
2022 or later 5/1

If you combine the two markets, it does look as though Corbyn forming a minority Labour government in 2019 is factored into the prices. Followed by Gove (or Johnson or Javid) taking over a minority Conservative government in 2019. But the odds are changing every day.
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 21:52 - Nov 17 with 2201 viewsGloryHunter

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 20:57 - Nov 17 by BazzaInTheLoft

Thornberry won't make it past the MoMembership who will not settle for anything less than a true Socialist. She's got some dubious connections through her husband too.

Next Labour leader post Jeremy will be female though, and left wing. If we get to 2022 and he's not PM my money is on Laura Pidcock, Laura Smith, Emma Dent Coed, or Dawn Butler.

Laura Smith by the way...

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My word. A Labour MP, you say . . .
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 21:56 - Dec 4 with 1974 viewsGloryHunter

Oddschecker best odds:
4/1 Corbyn
6/1 Johnson, Raab
7/1 Javid
9/1 Gove, Davis, Rees-Mogg
12/1 Hunt
14/1 Leadsom, Mourdant
20/1 Rudd
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 22:12 - Dec 4 with 1945 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 21:56 - Dec 4 by GloryHunter

Oddschecker best odds:
4/1 Corbyn
6/1 Johnson, Raab
7/1 Javid
9/1 Gove, Davis, Rees-Mogg
12/1 Hunt
14/1 Leadsom, Mourdant
20/1 Rudd


Decent odds for Rudd!
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 00:09 - Dec 5 with 1887 viewsCiderwithRsie

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 22:12 - Dec 4 by BazzaInTheLoft

Decent odds for Rudd!


Terrible odds for Raab and Johnson, neither of whom having a f*****g chance.

Corbyn and Javid the runaway favourites for me if it is in the next 12 months.
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 00:32 - Dec 5 with 1878 viewskensalriser

No odds for Hammond?

Tories have a critical choice to make for next leader; do they cement the UKIP reverse takeover or do they try to reach towards the centre in an effort to restrict Labour encroachment (and perhaps a mini-revival from the Lib Dems as hinted in the last election)? For all its noise, the fundamentalist Tory hard-right is actually quite limited numerically.

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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 01:24 - Dec 5 with 1851 viewsLazyFan

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 20:57 - Nov 17 by BazzaInTheLoft

Thornberry won't make it past the MoMembership who will not settle for anything less than a true Socialist. She's got some dubious connections through her husband too.

Next Labour leader post Jeremy will be female though, and left wing. If we get to 2022 and he's not PM my money is on Laura Pidcock, Laura Smith, Emma Dent Coed, or Dawn Butler.

Laura Smith by the way...

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It could be Clive Lewis.
Ex-Army, family man and also committed Leftie.
Hard for the press to attack personally.

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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 10:36 - Dec 5 with 1767 viewsGloryHunter

All change this morning. Next Prime Minister Oddschecker best odds:
4/1 Corbyn
10/1 Gove, Johnson, Raab, Javid
12/1 Hunt
20/1 Davis, Rees-Mogg
25/1 Jayawardena, Leadsom
33/1 Mordaunt, Rudd
40/1 Cox
50/1 Thornberry
66/1 Hammond, Hancock, Tugendhat
100/1 The field
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 11:30 - Dec 5 with 1721 viewsdaveB

I don't think Corbyn would win an election if they call one, He's done nowhere near enough on Brexit to gain the extra votes he needs
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 11:50 - Dec 5 with 1703 viewsGloryHunter

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 11:30 - Dec 5 by daveB

I don't think Corbyn would win an election if they call one, He's done nowhere near enough on Brexit to gain the extra votes he needs


Corbyn might not need to win an election to become next PM. If May's government fails to achieve a majority in parliament, the Queen would invite the leader of the opposition to try to form a coalition government.
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 12:12 - Dec 5 with 1676 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 11:30 - Dec 5 by daveB

I don't think Corbyn would win an election if they call one, He's done nowhere near enough on Brexit to gain the extra votes he needs


So your saying the people who won’t vote for Corbyn because he’s pro Brexit will vote for the Tories (who are pro Brexit) instead?
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 12:23 - Dec 5 with 1662 viewsdaveB

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 12:12 - Dec 5 by BazzaInTheLoft

So your saying the people who won’t vote for Corbyn because he’s pro Brexit will vote for the Tories (who are pro Brexit) instead?


I think he's sat on the fence over it so he's done little to get leave voters on his side and not really done enough to fight remains corner. Just a personal view I just don't think he'd win if we went to a General election, he did well in the last one against one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen but he still ended up losing.
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 12:46 - Dec 5 with 1640 viewsloftboy

If they end up over ruling Brexit which the EU is trying it’s hardest to do, then I will never vote again, we are being allowed to be bullied by an organisation that is shitting itself in case it loses its money.

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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:12 - Dec 5 with 1596 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 12:23 - Dec 5 by daveB

I think he's sat on the fence over it so he's done little to get leave voters on his side and not really done enough to fight remains corner. Just a personal view I just don't think he'd win if we went to a General election, he did well in the last one against one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen but he still ended up losing.


Labour went into the last GE 20pts behind in the polls and ended up being a position where 12k votes in the right places would have given them a majority.

Today, Labour are equal or ahead on almost every poll, and 5pts ahead according the the largest sample taken.

You can’t rely on polls obviously but you can rely on statistical trends. Labour only need to be the biggest party for Corbyn to be prime minister and as mentioned before Labour only need 12k more votes in the right places to be that.

Bear in mind that every year that passes a new generation that easily surpasses 12k per annum are eligible to vote and and a old generation that votes Tory dies.

This is the breakdown of age votes in 2017. All Labour have to do is get young people registered which they didn’t have time or resources to do in 2017. Now they have 600k members (largest in europe) up from 250k in 2017. I am a officer for my CLP and all we are bombarded with is instructions to get registrations for a snap election.

Time is the the only thing going to stop Corbyn being PM (he’ll be 72 in 2022).



There are many other reasons I think Corbyn will be PM but I’ll spare you of that until another day!
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:17 - Dec 5 with 1587 viewsFDC

Regarding Labour leadership's 'constructive ambiguity' on Brexit, despite a lot of talking heads being frustrated by this, the data shows they've played a blinder, essentially holding together a coalition of young remainers and old leavers whilst the Tory's eat themselves.

They just need to keep doing what they're doing imo. The "yes we'll do Brexit but we'll be nicer about it" might not stand up to much scrutiny, but it does cut through to the mostly disinterested majority. And, the reality is, the state of the country after Brexit will be determined largely by the decisions made by the government at that time.

So, yeah - do and say what ever it takes to get in to government imo.
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:18 - Dec 5 with 1583 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:17 - Dec 5 by FDC

Regarding Labour leadership's 'constructive ambiguity' on Brexit, despite a lot of talking heads being frustrated by this, the data shows they've played a blinder, essentially holding together a coalition of young remainers and old leavers whilst the Tory's eat themselves.

They just need to keep doing what they're doing imo. The "yes we'll do Brexit but we'll be nicer about it" might not stand up to much scrutiny, but it does cut through to the mostly disinterested majority. And, the reality is, the state of the country after Brexit will be determined largely by the decisions made by the government at that time.

So, yeah - do and say what ever it takes to get in to government imo.


I was going to go into that but didn’t have the will power. Thanks!
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:24 - Dec 5 with 1568 viewsdaveB

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:12 - Dec 5 by BazzaInTheLoft

Labour went into the last GE 20pts behind in the polls and ended up being a position where 12k votes in the right places would have given them a majority.

Today, Labour are equal or ahead on almost every poll, and 5pts ahead according the the largest sample taken.

You can’t rely on polls obviously but you can rely on statistical trends. Labour only need to be the biggest party for Corbyn to be prime minister and as mentioned before Labour only need 12k more votes in the right places to be that.

Bear in mind that every year that passes a new generation that easily surpasses 12k per annum are eligible to vote and and a old generation that votes Tory dies.

This is the breakdown of age votes in 2017. All Labour have to do is get young people registered which they didn’t have time or resources to do in 2017. Now they have 600k members (largest in europe) up from 250k in 2017. I am a officer for my CLP and all we are bombarded with is instructions to get registrations for a snap election.

Time is the the only thing going to stop Corbyn being PM (he’ll be 72 in 2022).



There are many other reasons I think Corbyn will be PM but I’ll spare you of that until another day!
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He may well be ahead now but I just don't think he'll get into power, I voted for him last tine, i wouldn't if they had an election tomorrow, for me he's done nowhere near enough.
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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:39 - Dec 5 with 1540 viewsenfieldargh

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:24 - Dec 5 by daveB

He may well be ahead now but I just don't think he'll get into power, I voted for him last tine, i wouldn't if they had an election tomorrow, for me he's done nowhere near enough.


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QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:44 - Dec 5 with 1533 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

QPR supporter for next Prime Minister? on 13:24 - Dec 5 by daveB

He may well be ahead now but I just don't think he'll get into power, I voted for him last tine, i wouldn't if they had an election tomorrow, for me he's done nowhere near enough.


Thats a shame to hear that Dave, but unless you are voting Tory, Green, or UKIP the transfer of votes won't be in Conservatives favour. The Lib Dems are evenly spread throughout the country in both Labour and Tory marginals so votes for Lib Dems reduces seats for Tories as much as Labour.
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