| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 08:48 - Nov 17 with 2669 views | MattG |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 08:08 - Nov 17 by Phil_S |
Any change in the terms of the deal recommended would need to be referred to our members
I guess it would be up to each individual as to whether those change are worthy enough of a change in viewpoint on whether the deal should be accepted or not. For me they were. I wont speak for Matt |
For me it was as much about the fact that the Yanks actually made the changes in the first place as it was about the detail of the changes themselves. That's not to say that there weren't a few "red line" items for me amongst them but there is still a chance that some or all of those will disappear in the final deal.
I've said to others that, during the consultation, the Board made a lot of positive noises about the relationship with the Yanks and that this will almost certainly have played a part in the way some people voted; £5m (or whatever it might be) plus a positive ongoing relationship is better than just £5m. However, the way the Yanks have gone about progressing the sale since the vote, in full knowledge of what we had presented to our members, has changed that significantly and, for me, clearly demonstrates that they either don't understand or (maybe more likely) don't care what the Trust represents.
As a result of all this, I fundamentally disagreed with the majority view at the last Board meeting I attended that we should continue discussions. Subsequently, I was also in favour of a more strongly worded statement regarding the playing side of things but, given the earlier decision to continue discussions, I was again in a minority. The combination of those factors left me, I felt, with no alternative but to resign. I'm sure plenty will say that we were naive and shouldn't have expected any different - they may have a point but, based on my knowledge of what was going on at that time, I felt that our comments at the time were fair, however I sincerely hope that any future consultation on the sale also deals with this change in approach from the Yanks and not just with the direct details of the sale itself. |  | |  |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:15 - Nov 17 with 2610 views | TheResurrection |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 08:48 - Nov 17 by MattG |
For me it was as much about the fact that the Yanks actually made the changes in the first place as it was about the detail of the changes themselves. That's not to say that there weren't a few "red line" items for me amongst them but there is still a chance that some or all of those will disappear in the final deal.
I've said to others that, during the consultation, the Board made a lot of positive noises about the relationship with the Yanks and that this will almost certainly have played a part in the way some people voted; £5m (or whatever it might be) plus a positive ongoing relationship is better than just £5m. However, the way the Yanks have gone about progressing the sale since the vote, in full knowledge of what we had presented to our members, has changed that significantly and, for me, clearly demonstrates that they either don't understand or (maybe more likely) don't care what the Trust represents.
As a result of all this, I fundamentally disagreed with the majority view at the last Board meeting I attended that we should continue discussions. Subsequently, I was also in favour of a more strongly worded statement regarding the playing side of things but, given the earlier decision to continue discussions, I was again in a minority. The combination of those factors left me, I felt, with no alternative but to resign. I'm sure plenty will say that we were naive and shouldn't have expected any different - they may have a point but, based on my knowledge of what was going on at that time, I felt that our comments at the time were fair, however I sincerely hope that any future consultation on the sale also deals with this change in approach from the Yanks and not just with the direct details of the sale itself. |
Finally we are getting somewhere and for what it's worth Math, I agree with you.
To properly reply though can you just give me some pointers as to what you would have wanted to put in the statement regarding the playing side?
That may sound an obvious thing to ask but can you give us more detail please?
Regarding the other issue I can't agree more from what you've said. I also believe the other members didn't think the less money up front and the less money in instalments was enough of a deal breaker, but like you, I agree, it's the fact they actually changed anything at all, especially after knowing you took the offer to a vote - they did know that did they, Math?
Has Pearlman ever met any of you apart from Stu? Has he taken the trouble to sit in in a Trust meeting, has he shown any appetite to want to bring the Trust closer to the Club? |  |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:37 - Nov 17 with 2579 views | monmouth |
You are a massive loss to that Board Matt.
We really do need to know who is voting what here. Is our mute SD keen on carrying on? It is ridiculous that we don't know his position. |  |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:49 - Nov 17 with 2562 views | Smellyplumz |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 08:48 - Nov 17 by MattG |
For me it was as much about the fact that the Yanks actually made the changes in the first place as it was about the detail of the changes themselves. That's not to say that there weren't a few "red line" items for me amongst them but there is still a chance that some or all of those will disappear in the final deal.
I've said to others that, during the consultation, the Board made a lot of positive noises about the relationship with the Yanks and that this will almost certainly have played a part in the way some people voted; £5m (or whatever it might be) plus a positive ongoing relationship is better than just £5m. However, the way the Yanks have gone about progressing the sale since the vote, in full knowledge of what we had presented to our members, has changed that significantly and, for me, clearly demonstrates that they either don't understand or (maybe more likely) don't care what the Trust represents.
As a result of all this, I fundamentally disagreed with the majority view at the last Board meeting I attended that we should continue discussions. Subsequently, I was also in favour of a more strongly worded statement regarding the playing side of things but, given the earlier decision to continue discussions, I was again in a minority. The combination of those factors left me, I felt, with no alternative but to resign. I'm sure plenty will say that we were naive and shouldn't have expected any different - they may have a point but, based on my knowledge of what was going on at that time, I felt that our comments at the time were fair, however I sincerely hope that any future consultation on the sale also deals with this change in approach from the Yanks and not just with the direct details of the sale itself. |
naive doesn't come close, I mean why would the trust believe that these multi millionaire investment bank business men would pay fair with a group of local fans for them the trust was a tiny fly in the ointment to be dealt with by as lower cost as possible. These people are the big boy sharks who chew people and businesses up and spit them out for fun. They must be laughing at all of us big time. They do not give a shit about this club or the fans any further than a business vessel for producing gain. The trust should of had more courage and just taken the legal route. Anyway its all water under the bridge now innit and we can see the yanks are just gunna shaft the trust again. |  |
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""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make." | | Poll: | Huw Jenkins |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:54 - Nov 17 with 2557 views | monmouth |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:49 - Nov 17 by Smellyplumz |
naive doesn't come close, I mean why would the trust believe that these multi millionaire investment bank business men would pay fair with a group of local fans for them the trust was a tiny fly in the ointment to be dealt with by as lower cost as possible. These people are the big boy sharks who chew people and businesses up and spit them out for fun. They must be laughing at all of us big time. They do not give a shit about this club or the fans any further than a business vessel for producing gain. The trust should of had more courage and just taken the legal route. Anyway its all water under the bridge now innit and we can see the yanks are just gunna shaft the trust again. |
Yes, there is that too.
Your signature should be a banner headline on this site by the way, accompanied by the author, date and the word LIAR. | |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 10:11 - Nov 17 with 2524 views | Smellyplumz |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:54 - Nov 17 by monmouth |
Yes, there is that too.
Your signature should be a banner headline on this site by the way, accompanied by the author, date and the word LIAR. |
Agreed matey. | |
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""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make." | | Poll: | Huw Jenkins |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 10:42 - Nov 17 with 2483 views | Phil_S |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:15 - Nov 17 by TheResurrection |
Finally we are getting somewhere and for what it's worth Math, I agree with you.
To properly reply though can you just give me some pointers as to what you would have wanted to put in the statement regarding the playing side?
That may sound an obvious thing to ask but can you give us more detail please?
Regarding the other issue I can't agree more from what you've said. I also believe the other members didn't think the less money up front and the less money in instalments was enough of a deal breaker, but like you, I agree, it's the fact they actually changed anything at all, especially after knowing you took the offer to a vote - they did know that did they, Math?
Has Pearlman ever met any of you apart from Stu? Has he taken the trouble to sit in in a Trust meeting, has he shown any appetite to want to bring the Trust closer to the Club? |
FWIW Matt and I are think are pretty much on the same page on most things that have been Trust related over time.
I will answer the last question you posed him though - Pearlman has met many of the Trust board and attended one Trust meeting a few months back (it should be referenced in the minutes and I will have a search back later if someone hasn't already done so by then) The second part of that question is a tricky one as I would say yes and some things did change as a result of Stu (in particular) having discussions with him. But it would also be wrong to say that there isnt more to be done. Much more. |  | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 10:56 - Nov 17 with 2451 views | Highjack |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:54 - Nov 17 by monmouth |
Yes, there is that too.
Your signature should be a banner headline on this site by the way, accompanied by the author, date and the word LIAR. |
We should show a bit of respect and refer to him by his proper title, Huw Jenkins MBE. (Massive Bell End) |  |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 11:49 - Nov 17 with 2381 views | MattG |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 09:15 - Nov 17 by TheResurrection |
Finally we are getting somewhere and for what it's worth Math, I agree with you.
To properly reply though can you just give me some pointers as to what you would have wanted to put in the statement regarding the playing side?
That may sound an obvious thing to ask but can you give us more detail please?
Regarding the other issue I can't agree more from what you've said. I also believe the other members didn't think the less money up front and the less money in instalments was enough of a deal breaker, but like you, I agree, it's the fact they actually changed anything at all, especially after knowing you took the offer to a vote - they did know that did they, Math?
Has Pearlman ever met any of you apart from Stu? Has he taken the trouble to sit in in a Trust meeting, has he shown any appetite to want to bring the Trust closer to the Club? |
On the Statement, I would have preferred to see us push for some definitive action - not necessarily going as far as demanding the removal of any individual but perhaps a full review of the playing side with Trust involvement. Discussions are all well and good (and these have been happening) but setting out what we want or expect means we then have something that we can come back to if nothing is done.
On the terms of the consultation, my understanding is that the Yanks were given full details of the terms that were being communicated to the members and had ample opportunity to tell us if there was anything that we had misinterpreted or misrepresented.
Phil has already covered the Pearlman question and there have certainly been some positives out of Stuart's relationship with him. | | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 12:01 - Nov 17 with 2350 views | DafyddHuw |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 08:08 - Nov 17 by Phil_S |
Any change in the terms of the deal recommended would need to be referred to our members
I guess it would be up to each individual as to whether those change are worthy enough of a change in viewpoint on whether the deal should be accepted or not. For me they were. I wont speak for Matt |
"Any change in the terms of the deal recommended would need to be referred to our members "
Why? The deal was put to the members to vote on at the discretion of the Trust board. It wasn't a mandatory thing.
So why should a change in the terms of the deal now mean that Trust board have to refer to the members again? Surely the Trust board have the authority to just plough on regardless? |  | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 12:33 - Nov 17 with 2306 views | Uxbridge |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 12:01 - Nov 17 by DafyddHuw |
"Any change in the terms of the deal recommended would need to be referred to our members "
Why? The deal was put to the members to vote on at the discretion of the Trust board. It wasn't a mandatory thing.
So why should a change in the terms of the deal now mean that Trust board have to refer to the members again? Surely the Trust board have the authority to just plough on regardless? |
Indeed it could, and indeed it didn't have to last time. However, just like it was right to let the members decide out of the three options last time, the members should have the right to choose again if any of those details change. |  |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:05 - Nov 17 with 2237 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 12:33 - Nov 17 by Uxbridge |
Indeed it could, and indeed it didn't have to last time. However, just like it was right to let the members decide out of the three options last time, the members should have the right to choose again if any of those details change. |
They have already changed.
MattG's post summarised why perfectly. I couldn't agree with him more. |  | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:28 - Nov 17 with 2197 views | Uxbridge |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:05 - Nov 17 by londonlisa2001 |
They have already changed.
MattG's post summarised why perfectly. I couldn't agree with him more. |
Well, this is where it gets tricky isn't it, because we're into areas that are subjective at best. Matt and I didn't disagree on much mind, although I'm not sure if he'd agree! | |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:34 - Nov 17 with 2169 views | Phil_S |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 12:01 - Nov 17 by DafyddHuw |
"Any change in the terms of the deal recommended would need to be referred to our members "
Why? The deal was put to the members to vote on at the discretion of the Trust board. It wasn't a mandatory thing.
So why should a change in the terms of the deal now mean that Trust board have to refer to the members again? Surely the Trust board have the authority to just plough on regardless? |
Yes they could but given that they (we) didnt last time then it wont happen this time
Although now of course that is IMO rather than from a position of knowledge ;-) | | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:34 - Nov 17 with 2166 views | MattG |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:28 - Nov 17 by Uxbridge |
Well, this is where it gets tricky isn't it, because we're into areas that are subjective at best. Matt and I didn't disagree on much mind, although I'm not sure if he'd agree! |
I would say that discussions regarding the terms of the sale are ongoing and there is a possibility that they may end up back in line with what was originally communicated to members. Highly unlikely, IMO, but possible.
However, as per my previous posts, for me it's not just about the details of the deal but about how it has been handled by the Yanks and what that says about how they view the Trust. | | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:45 - Nov 17 with 2128 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:34 - Nov 17 by MattG |
I would say that discussions regarding the terms of the sale are ongoing and there is a possibility that they may end up back in line with what was originally communicated to members. Highly unlikely, IMO, but possible.
However, as per my previous posts, for me it's not just about the details of the deal but about how it has been handled by the Yanks and what that says about how they view the Trust. |
Doesn't matter if it ends back in the same place.
Good faith has disappeared. Not that it ever existed other than in the minds of the Trust.
They view the Trust in exactly the way it was always obvious they viewed the Trust. With contempt.
Pricing 'we forgot to consult you'
Dineen back on the board 'oops, a mistake'
Cutting Trust out of sale 'it was all the fault of Huw Jenkins - he told us to keep quiet'
It couldn't have been more obvious that they don't give a crap. They don't give a crap about anything other than making money when they sell the club on. It's the whole point. Keep the team up as cheaply as possible (ignoring any longer term impacts - they don't care). Try and get a few sponsorship deals together. Drive up the bottom line by getting rid of better players and replacing them with cheaper alternatives, get hands on control of stadium, new TV deal, Bob's your uncle (though thankfully not your team's manager). Oh, and the safety net is getting their hands on parachute payments so they don't lose too much. It's the equivalent of a free £10 bet on one of those online sites.
Anyone that wants to do business with these people and thinks it's in the long term interests of Swansea City football club is an idiot if you will pardon the insult. Sorry, but I'm really getting annoyed, | | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 14:06 - Nov 17 with 2066 views | fbreath |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:45 - Nov 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Doesn't matter if it ends back in the same place.
Good faith has disappeared. Not that it ever existed other than in the minds of the Trust.
They view the Trust in exactly the way it was always obvious they viewed the Trust. With contempt.
Pricing 'we forgot to consult you'
Dineen back on the board 'oops, a mistake'
Cutting Trust out of sale 'it was all the fault of Huw Jenkins - he told us to keep quiet'
It couldn't have been more obvious that they don't give a crap. They don't give a crap about anything other than making money when they sell the club on. It's the whole point. Keep the team up as cheaply as possible (ignoring any longer term impacts - they don't care). Try and get a few sponsorship deals together. Drive up the bottom line by getting rid of better players and replacing them with cheaper alternatives, get hands on control of stadium, new TV deal, Bob's your uncle (though thankfully not your team's manager). Oh, and the safety net is getting their hands on parachute payments so they don't lose too much. It's the equivalent of a free £10 bet on one of those online sites.
Anyone that wants to do business with these people and thinks it's in the long term interests of Swansea City football club is an idiot if you will pardon the insult. Sorry, but I'm really getting annoyed, |
Well said especially your last paragraph.
These are business men/sales people. They know exactly what to say to appease people and buy themselves time.
They don't care about the fans. Its not their remit. |  |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 14:10 - Nov 17 with 2063 views | MattG |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:45 - Nov 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Doesn't matter if it ends back in the same place.
Good faith has disappeared. Not that it ever existed other than in the minds of the Trust.
They view the Trust in exactly the way it was always obvious they viewed the Trust. With contempt.
Pricing 'we forgot to consult you'
Dineen back on the board 'oops, a mistake'
Cutting Trust out of sale 'it was all the fault of Huw Jenkins - he told us to keep quiet'
It couldn't have been more obvious that they don't give a crap. They don't give a crap about anything other than making money when they sell the club on. It's the whole point. Keep the team up as cheaply as possible (ignoring any longer term impacts - they don't care). Try and get a few sponsorship deals together. Drive up the bottom line by getting rid of better players and replacing them with cheaper alternatives, get hands on control of stadium, new TV deal, Bob's your uncle (though thankfully not your team's manager). Oh, and the safety net is getting their hands on parachute payments so they don't lose too much. It's the equivalent of a free £10 bet on one of those online sites.
Anyone that wants to do business with these people and thinks it's in the long term interests of Swansea City football club is an idiot if you will pardon the insult. Sorry, but I'm really getting annoyed, |
As per my previous posts, I agree 100% with your first 1½ paragraphs but have slightly different views on some of the rest.
Ticket prices - your comment may be fair enough for the Sampdoria game but the Trust (specifically Stuart) got some significant concessions on the Man Utd cup game. Not enough for some but I doubt many would have been happy paying full PL prices for that one.....
Dineen - whether done deliberately or not, they were quick enough to remove him again after the Trust raised the issue.
Please don't think I'm trying to make the Yanks out to be a bunch of philanthropists who are only interested in the good of the Club and it's supporters - I'm not - but there were some examples of a positive working relationship (which the Trust certainly could have done more to communicate). However, after recent events I now also have to agree with (most of) your last paragraph. | | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 14:58 - Nov 17 with 1997 views | MoscowJack |
How much of these alleged "changes" to the details in the deal are an attempt to stall it, in the hope that they get a clearer idea of what division we'll be in next season?
It seems to be progressing extremely slowly, which only suggests it's being done at the Board's pace, not ours. A change here and a change there adds months, potentially, and a run of 6 wins or defeats could easily give them a different position of both strength or weakness.
It all stinks far too much for me. I've had business dealings with so many Americans and every single time, without one exception, it's been as frustrating as it's been fraught with outright lies.
We might not have the majority rights or the power to change much within the club, but we've got one thing that the Yanks will fear - the collective voice! They won't care about that short-term, but they will sh!t themselves if they think it will scupper their eventual future sale of OUR club.
This, for me, is the main reason that a court case hanging over them will be a huge worry as it will have a huge impact on their ability to market the club. The only issues around that are (a) the sale might not be for another 12+ months after stadium rights have been banked and (b) it MIGHT be hard to drag any court case on for that long without huge legal fees. | |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 16:49 - Nov 17 with 1830 views | ItchySphincter |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 14:58 - Nov 17 by MoscowJack |
How much of these alleged "changes" to the details in the deal are an attempt to stall it, in the hope that they get a clearer idea of what division we'll be in next season?
It seems to be progressing extremely slowly, which only suggests it's being done at the Board's pace, not ours. A change here and a change there adds months, potentially, and a run of 6 wins or defeats could easily give them a different position of both strength or weakness.
It all stinks far too much for me. I've had business dealings with so many Americans and every single time, without one exception, it's been as frustrating as it's been fraught with outright lies.
We might not have the majority rights or the power to change much within the club, but we've got one thing that the Yanks will fear - the collective voice! They won't care about that short-term, but they will sh!t themselves if they think it will scupper their eventual future sale of OUR club.
This, for me, is the main reason that a court case hanging over them will be a huge worry as it will have a huge impact on their ability to market the club. The only issues around that are (a) the sale might not be for another 12+ months after stadium rights have been banked and (b) it MIGHT be hard to drag any court case on for that long without huge legal fees. |
Sounding like a true Comrade there.  |  |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 17:27 - Nov 17 with 1759 views | johnlangy |
A very sad day for us and the Trust Phil. Best of luck for the future.
John (Young) | | | |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 18:16 - Nov 17 with 1700 views | MyFinalHeaven |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:45 - Nov 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Doesn't matter if it ends back in the same place.
Good faith has disappeared. Not that it ever existed other than in the minds of the Trust.
They view the Trust in exactly the way it was always obvious they viewed the Trust. With contempt.
Pricing 'we forgot to consult you'
Dineen back on the board 'oops, a mistake'
Cutting Trust out of sale 'it was all the fault of Huw Jenkins - he told us to keep quiet'
It couldn't have been more obvious that they don't give a crap. They don't give a crap about anything other than making money when they sell the club on. It's the whole point. Keep the team up as cheaply as possible (ignoring any longer term impacts - they don't care). Try and get a few sponsorship deals together. Drive up the bottom line by getting rid of better players and replacing them with cheaper alternatives, get hands on control of stadium, new TV deal, Bob's your uncle (though thankfully not your team's manager). Oh, and the safety net is getting their hands on parachute payments so they don't lose too much. It's the equivalent of a free £10 bet on one of those online sites.
Anyone that wants to do business with these people and thinks it's in the long term interests of Swansea City football club is an idiot if you will pardon the insult. Sorry, but I'm really getting annoyed, |
Couldn't have said it better myself Lisa. These American owners are nothing but parasites--I've been saying it since the very beginning. We need to start calling them for what they are. How countless hordes of imbeciles on this site actually thought they were in it to make us successful and actually invest some money is incredible. All they care about is making a profit. They're venture capitalists FFS. |  |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 18:58 - Nov 17 with 1639 views | Flashberryjack |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 18:16 - Nov 17 by MyFinalHeaven |
Couldn't have said it better myself Lisa. These American owners are nothing but parasites--I've been saying it since the very beginning. We need to start calling them for what they are. How countless hordes of imbeciles on this site actually thought they were in it to make us successful and actually invest some money is incredible. All they care about is making a profit. They're venture capitalists FFS. |
To be fair quite a few on here recognized what the Americans were up to from the start, others suspected, but buried their heads.
While others embraced them in the belief that their intentions were honorable.
As I've said from the beginning.......prepare yourselves for the worst. |  |
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 19:05 - Nov 17 with 1622 views | Oldjack |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:45 - Nov 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Doesn't matter if it ends back in the same place.
Good faith has disappeared. Not that it ever existed other than in the minds of the Trust.
They view the Trust in exactly the way it was always obvious they viewed the Trust. With contempt.
Pricing 'we forgot to consult you'
Dineen back on the board 'oops, a mistake'
Cutting Trust out of sale 'it was all the fault of Huw Jenkins - he told us to keep quiet'
It couldn't have been more obvious that they don't give a crap. They don't give a crap about anything other than making money when they sell the club on. It's the whole point. Keep the team up as cheaply as possible (ignoring any longer term impacts - they don't care). Try and get a few sponsorship deals together. Drive up the bottom line by getting rid of better players and replacing them with cheaper alternatives, get hands on control of stadium, new TV deal, Bob's your uncle (though thankfully not your team's manager). Oh, and the safety net is getting their hands on parachute payments so they don't lose too much. It's the equivalent of a free £10 bet on one of those online sites.
Anyone that wants to do business with these people and thinks it's in the long term interests of Swansea City football club is an idiot if you will pardon the insult. Sorry, but I'm really getting annoyed, |
The Trust to this lot and includes the Treacherous one are no more than a slight thorn in their sides that can be easily removed and ignored,all this pussyfooting around them needs to stop ! |  |
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You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 19:14 - Nov 17 with 1599 views | monmouth |
| Phil Sumbler Resigns as Trust Chairman on 13:45 - Nov 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Doesn't matter if it ends back in the same place.
Good faith has disappeared. Not that it ever existed other than in the minds of the Trust.
They view the Trust in exactly the way it was always obvious they viewed the Trust. With contempt.
Pricing 'we forgot to consult you'
Dineen back on the board 'oops, a mistake'
Cutting Trust out of sale 'it was all the fault of Huw Jenkins - he told us to keep quiet'
It couldn't have been more obvious that they don't give a crap. They don't give a crap about anything other than making money when they sell the club on. It's the whole point. Keep the team up as cheaply as possible (ignoring any longer term impacts - they don't care). Try and get a few sponsorship deals together. Drive up the bottom line by getting rid of better players and replacing them with cheaper alternatives, get hands on control of stadium, new TV deal, Bob's your uncle (though thankfully not your team's manager). Oh, and the safety net is getting their hands on parachute payments so they don't lose too much. It's the equivalent of a free £10 bet on one of those online sites.
Anyone that wants to do business with these people and thinks it's in the long term interests of Swansea City football club is an idiot if you will pardon the insult. Sorry, but I'm really getting annoyed, |
I can only say bravo Lisa, and that if you’re anything like me, that the more you write, the more annoyed you’ll get. | |
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