| Great development regards safe standing on 16:50 - Jun 6 with 1688 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Great development regards safe standing on 16:38 - Jun 6 by Banosswan |
He's entitled to infer from your implication. |
He said that away fans make more noise (true) but implied safe standing would change that. I simply pointed out that away and home are subject to the same rules so that doesn't cause the difference referred to.
That's not the same as saying both sets may be louder if they could stand. On that, I'm ambivalent. I wouldn't stand anymore as I'm short and can't see over the tops of heads plus I prefer more comfort these days albeit that at away matches you have to stand throughout pretty much but I have no objections to the people that do prefer to stand as long as it's safe.
I do think that some over inflate the old atmosphere though. The Vetch was never the hotbed of great atmosphere that everyone recollects apart from the odd occasion. Not least because so often there were hardly any people there. And the Liberty atmosphere is magnificent at times as well. |  | |  |
| Great development regards safe standing on 16:52 - Jun 6 with 1683 views | Al_Bundy |
If you look at the East stand currently at home matches.. the first 2 sections have the most vocal singers then it drops off quite considerably section my section in the upper tier from left to right as you look at it from the pitch.
If you took the vocal singers (if they want to stand) from the quieter sections and put them in the north East as a standing group your firstly not tied to a mate seating wise and you can mill around just like the old NB days. So effectively you could create that away day atmosphere at home.
The issue the Liberty has there are vast areas of families , the elderly and day trippers who just don't sing. The South and West are prime examples. Leicester addressed this by giving out those clappers to everyone which raised the fan involvement to a degree. | | | |
| Great development regards safe standing on 16:55 - Jun 6 with 1675 views | DafyddHuw |
| Great development regards safe standing on 15:26 - Jun 6 by Al_Bundy |
Not rocket science.. seating keeps groups quite restricted in the stands. Put a 1000 or so lads together in a standing environment will improve the atmosphere at grounds but also add an edge especially in certain fixtures. |
I think you have the wrong concept of standing areas at football matches these days.
You won't be able to pack more people into a standing area than you do with a seated area. Every row will have a space for you to stand, like every row now has a space for you to sit. And every row will have a crush barrier.
We're not talking about going back to the old days of the Kop Er the Stretford End here. |  | | |
| Great development regards safe standing on 16:59 - Jun 6 with 1674 views | donkeylabour |
| Great development regards safe standing on 16:52 - Jun 6 by Al_Bundy |
If you look at the East stand currently at home matches.. the first 2 sections have the most vocal singers then it drops off quite considerably section my section in the upper tier from left to right as you look at it from the pitch.
If you took the vocal singers (if they want to stand) from the quieter sections and put them in the north East as a standing group your firstly not tied to a mate seating wise and you can mill around just like the old NB days. So effectively you could create that away day atmosphere at home.
The issue the Liberty has there are vast areas of families , the elderly and day trippers who just don't sing. The South and West are prime examples. Leicester addressed this by giving out those clappers to everyone which raised the fan involvement to a degree. |
Exactly.
Modern football fans don't understand how it works, they'll go that's a nice spot. Not like when it was that's the family bit, that's the old person bit, that's the singing bit and that's the animal enclosure. [Post edited 6 Jun 2016 16:59]
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| Great development regards safe standing on 17:00 - Jun 6 with 1671 views | donkeylabour |
| Great development regards safe standing on 16:55 - Jun 6 by DafyddHuw |
I think you have the wrong concept of standing areas at football matches these days.
You won't be able to pack more people into a standing area than you do with a seated area. Every row will have a space for you to stand, like every row now has a space for you to sit. And every row will have a crush barrier.
We're not talking about going back to the old days of the Kop Er the Stretford End here. |
But it will mean there is a distinct section and this will attract possibly people who've drifted away. | |
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| Great development regards safe standing on 18:21 - Jun 6 with 1634 views | tomdickharry |
| Great development regards safe standing on 13:22 - Jun 6 by donkeylabour |
All these problems would diminish - at the moment it's against the law.
It's only because of weight of numbers people are getting away with it. |
Dead right.Fans should not stand simple as that. | | | |
| Great development regards safe standing on 23:05 - Jun 9 with 1526 views | shenleymun |
| Great development regards safe standing on 18:21 - Jun 6 by tomdickharry |
Dead right.Fans should not stand simple as that. |
I have stood at every game at the Liberty fir five seasons since I got a season to ensure I wouldn't have to worry about getting tickets in the PL.
We got seats in the back row of the lower tier so we wouldn't get hassled by anyone behind us but everyone stands by us. We were delighted to find a bunch of 12 year olds in front of us but now the little rascals are 17 and getting too tall for my liking. Nearly always get to stand at away games too.
There is no doubt that the simple fact of standing makes you feel more involved, therefore more likely to sing etc. Worst atmosphere aways always Spurs where they are obsessive about making you sit down. |  | | |
| Great development regards safe standing on 06:59 - Jun 10 with 1485 views | jack247 |
| Great development regards safe standing on 16:37 - Jun 6 by donkeylabour |
I like you.
The reality is though that although some Home fans stand at present it's sporadic and there will be different people in those areas and not like the old days where people could group more easily.
Safe standing areas would mean that stewards would no longer get in the way, it would become a focal heartbeat of the ground unlike now where there's a corner where some people try but in reality it's pretty poor. Have a clearly defined area for singers and the rest can sit down tap their foot, eat a hot dog play with their iPhone (jeez) sleep, sh1t (well maybe not sh1t) whatever. |
Agree with this.
The noisy fans that create the atmosphere at away games go to home games as well, they are just diluted. Introduce a standing corner and a lot of them will gravitate to it. You would effectively have an 'away' section for home fans. | | | |
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| Great development regards safe standing on 08:28 - Jun 10 with 1461 views | lifelong |
| Great development regards safe standing on 23:05 - Jun 9 by shenleymun |
I have stood at every game at the Liberty fir five seasons since I got a season to ensure I wouldn't have to worry about getting tickets in the PL.
We got seats in the back row of the lower tier so we wouldn't get hassled by anyone behind us but everyone stands by us. We were delighted to find a bunch of 12 year olds in front of us but now the little rascals are 17 and getting too tall for my liking. Nearly always get to stand at away games too.
There is no doubt that the simple fact of standing makes you feel more involved, therefore more likely to sing etc. Worst atmosphere aways always Spurs where they are obsessive about making you sit down. |
I know 2 young, quite short people who managed to get tickets in the East Stand for the Arsenal home game last season. They hardly saw any of the game because a crowd of people in front of them were standing, when they attempted to complain they were politely told to feck off. |  | | |
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