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6 pints?!? Not that lightweight,Shirley,Fred? Love their grog as much as they hate soap and bathing,innit?
Wonder if the droid or clive anderson or paul parker will be along...
Will a band named after this lot, be their cup of tea,for real?
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The Levellers were a political movement during the English Civil War that emphasised popular sovereignty, extended suffrage, equality before the law, and religious tolerance, all of which were expressed in the manifesto "Agreement of the People". They came to prominence at the end of the First English Civil War and were most influential before the start of the Second Civil War. Leveller views and support were found in the populace of the City of London and in some regiments in the New Model Army. The term suggested that the "Levellers" aimed to bring all down to the lowest common level. The leaders vehemently denied the charge of "levelling", but adopted the name because it was how they were known to the majority of people. After their arrest and imprisonment in 1649, four of the 'Leveller' leaders – Walwyn, Overton, Lilburne and Thomas Prince – signed a manifesto in which they called themselves Levellers. Lilburne also harked back in his writing to the notion of a Norman yoke that has been imposed on the English people and to some extent argued that the English were simply seeking to reclaim those rights they had enjoyed before the Conquest. It called for an extension of suffrage to include almost all the adult male population, electoral reform, biennial elections, religious freedom, and an end to imprisonment for debt. They were committed broadly to the abolition of corruption within the parliamentary and judicial process, toleration of religious differences, the translation of law into the common tongue and, arguably, something that could be considered democracy in its modern form - arguably the first time contemporary democratic ideas had been formally framed and adopted by a political movement. The Levellers' largest petition, titled "To The Right Honourable The Commons Of England", was presented to Parliament on September 11, 1648 after amassing signatories including about a third of all LONDONERS! "Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner.." On 28 October 1649, the Agitator Robert Everard presented a document entitled "An Agreement of the People".This manifesto, which was inherently republican and democratic, appeared to conflict with the terms of settlement that had already been endorsed by the General Council in July entitled "The Heads of the Proposals".The "Heads of the Proposals" contained many demands that looked towards social justice but relied upon the King to agree to them and bring them into law through acts of Parliament. The new Agitators, who distrusted the King, demanded that England be settled from 'the bottom up' rather than the 'top down' by giving the vote to most adult males.
Pioneer Proto Democratic Socialist Top Geezers!
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'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.
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I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 23:13 - Nov 17 with 6956 views
I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 22:39 - Nov 17 by 18StoneOfHoop
6 pints?!? Not that lightweight,Shirley,Fred? Love their grog as much as they hate soap and bathing,innit?
Wonder if the droid or clive anderson or paul parker will be along...
Will a band named after this lot, be their cup of tea,for real?
Pasted selections from Wikipedia:
The Levellers were a political movement during the English Civil War that emphasised popular sovereignty, extended suffrage, equality before the law, and religious tolerance, all of which were expressed in the manifesto "Agreement of the People". They came to prominence at the end of the First English Civil War and were most influential before the start of the Second Civil War. Leveller views and support were found in the populace of the City of London and in some regiments in the New Model Army. The term suggested that the "Levellers" aimed to bring all down to the lowest common level. The leaders vehemently denied the charge of "levelling", but adopted the name because it was how they were known to the majority of people. After their arrest and imprisonment in 1649, four of the 'Leveller' leaders – Walwyn, Overton, Lilburne and Thomas Prince – signed a manifesto in which they called themselves Levellers. Lilburne also harked back in his writing to the notion of a Norman yoke that has been imposed on the English people and to some extent argued that the English were simply seeking to reclaim those rights they had enjoyed before the Conquest. It called for an extension of suffrage to include almost all the adult male population, electoral reform, biennial elections, religious freedom, and an end to imprisonment for debt. They were committed broadly to the abolition of corruption within the parliamentary and judicial process, toleration of religious differences, the translation of law into the common tongue and, arguably, something that could be considered democracy in its modern form - arguably the first time contemporary democratic ideas had been formally framed and adopted by a political movement. The Levellers' largest petition, titled "To The Right Honourable The Commons Of England", was presented to Parliament on September 11, 1648 after amassing signatories including about a third of all LONDONERS! "Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner.." On 28 October 1649, the Agitator Robert Everard presented a document entitled "An Agreement of the People".This manifesto, which was inherently republican and democratic, appeared to conflict with the terms of settlement that had already been endorsed by the General Council in July entitled "The Heads of the Proposals".The "Heads of the Proposals" contained many demands that looked towards social justice but relied upon the King to agree to them and bring them into law through acts of Parliament. The new Agitators, who distrusted the King, demanded that England be settled from 'the bottom up' rather than the 'top down' by giving the vote to most adult males.
Pioneer Proto Democratic Socialist Top Geezers!
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Thomas Rainsborough of the original lot gave me one of my favourite historical quotations, in reply to Cromwell at the Putney debates:
Cromwell: "If they that have no goods and chattels make the laws equally with those that have,they will make laws to take away the property of them that hath"
Rainborough: "If that be, that all Englishmen cannot be free while some Englishmen have property, then you have said it My Lord General, not me."
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I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 00:16 - Nov 18 with 6910 views
I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 21:40 - Nov 17 by FredManRave
Looking forward to your post 6 pints post later...
Not sure if their should be a comma in their somewhere but I'm sure Hunter will be along later...
Hmmm, I feel a rant coming on as red as Gorbo's birthmark, but that'll keep for another day. As I understand, the reference to the Leveller's has two meanings. One, the political movement as before mentioned, the other, some members of the band lived close to an odd bit of green space in Brighton called "The Level". Where dogs must be kept on string at all times. 'Like' if you've been there!
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I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 02:16 - Nov 18 with 6863 views
Wobbly (pun intended - barabajagal / Krop should geddit) life-style politics aside, a great live band that have being touring for no less than 82 years, and are probably absolutely fcking minted by now. In fact I think they built Metway Studios fairly early on in their career, and their annual festival is supposed to be great too.
"And we'll petrol bomb the state!"
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I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 07:46 - Nov 18 with 6774 views
I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 02:16 - Nov 18 by FDC
Wobbly (pun intended - barabajagal / Krop should geddit) life-style politics aside, a great live band that have being touring for no less than 82 years, and are probably absolutely fcking minted by now. In fact I think they built Metway Studios fairly early on in their career, and their annual festival is supposed to be great too.
"And we'll petrol bomb the state!"
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They didn't look that minted, but did seem like thoroughly decent fellows. They were arranging to attend the local music quiz... Is that cheating?
You can say what you like about Badger, but five pints and no hangover! Get in
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I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 09:11 - Nov 18 with 6699 views
I'm sitting right opposite 'the levellers'... on 09:11 - Nov 18 by Metallica_Hoop
Levelling the Land was an awesome album. The one with 'Belarus' on it is pretty good as is the first..
Didn't listen much after that
"Levelling the Land was an awesome album": Seconded. I think the expression is "All killer, no filler".
This tune isn't bad either:
RFA
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
Mark Chadwick is very nice bloke.. see him most weeks Mainly in pubs about Lewes.. not very skinny anymore aint minted i don't think (mind you he's often in Waitrose so maybe he is)
He' s good..and in my humble opinion, it's better for him to be obviously rapidly receding at the front when in middle-age than sporting manky crusty dirty white dreadlocks like that Leveller in the middle. Always good to see punters,posters and step-sons on the left or far left of things on this site. Remember that socks down brilliant Dave Thomas although sporting a right-wingers traditional number 7 always operated on the left at QPR (at Everton he wore the orthodox lefties no.11 shirt)
'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.