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How do we think this will go, could be a good time to be playing them. Also do we make room for any of the guys coming back from injury. Oh to be a manager.!!!!!!!!!
Henry has been great over the last few games. He has barely put a foot wrong. However, I would still swap him for Barton if Barton is healthy. I think him and Barton can play similar roles, breaking up plays and protecting the defense, but Barton has an additional element, the ability to pass and push the ball forward. We seem to play much better when he is in the side and I take that to be because of his ability to tie the team together, back to front.
If Adel were healthy and his head were on straight, I would play him instead of Hoilett for the first 60 minutes, then bring on Hoilett if we still need goals. I am probably just a dreamer here, but i still think Adel can make a huge impact if he can get his head skrewed on right (big IF, I know).
Whatever team we put out we have to go one up early against City. We have to really fly out the traps at them and get ahead. I get the feeling that it would kill their confidence again and we can turn them over. Get ourselves behind an they may grind out a boring win against us so I think we have to really have a go and attack them from the first whistle.
Come on less of the Trescothick type defeatism, Cornish oooRRRR me old cockle.
I reckon we can do 'em and Vargas AND Charlie,with his nut, will score. The atmosphere will be electric. No doubt the miserable moaning charmless ungraceful unshaven SW6 tramp will be watching and get to hear a proper passionate unjaded crowd again....
Here is a copy and pasted and redacted and added to adaptation of a Cornish political blog:
Cornwall: Can we stand up for ourselves?
On the coming Saturday we have one of those rare opportunities to beat a Big 4 club, which come along once in a while, to decide what sort of Cornwall hoops home rule enclave and QPR back on top of the west London roost that we want.
Are the Hoops self-confident enough to take a genuine risk, to demonstrate the passion, resolve and ambition needed to build us up and give the big boys a biff and hence be a less profligate more powerful accountable team in the Cornish west country and west London?
Or would you prefer to be timid, diffident and defeatist and resign yourselves with muddling along with the present sub-par depressing miniscule points total ?
In Cornwall the Hoops minority have for so long got so used to not being able to take real decisions that they have become pliant and deferential; waiting for others to take decisions for them rather than thinking for themselves. So much so that the whole idea of actually standing up for yourselves appears to many to be both troubling and implausible.
On the coming Saturday we have an opportunity to demonstrate ambition and resolve — to take the game to the Citeh. The omens might to some faint hearts not look good. Well actually Man C will be well low on confidence after their mid week euro disaster. Whilst we take that vital quality from the last 3 games; MOMENTUM breeding CONFIDENCE!
If we can shake off our decades-long deferential beaten-before-we've-started attitude towards top 4 sides - Scum apart - the defeatism and cynicism that has pervaded Cornwall and west London in the past, and side step the tiresome party political tribalism which has suffocated so much initiative, we could be on the verge of giving these arrogant Bertie Big Bollock Mancs a right proper shellacking.
Andrew George MP 18th June 2007 OooRRRR you RRRRRRRRssssssss!!!!!!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Late added bonus, a little off-topic: Ah imaginary tubthumping speech making. Reminds me of a favourite cult film scene from 'Little Malcolm And His Struggle Against The Eunuchs' starring John Hurt:
[Post edited 7 Nov 2014 2:28]
'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.
Henry has been great over the last few games. He has barely put a foot wrong. However, I would still swap him for Barton if Barton is healthy. I think him and Barton can play similar roles, breaking up plays and protecting the defense, but Barton has an additional element, the ability to pass and push the ball forward. We seem to play much better when he is in the side and I take that to be because of his ability to tie the team together, back to front.
If Adel were healthy and his head were on straight, I would play him instead of Hoilett for the first 60 minutes, then bring on Hoilett if we still need goals. I am probably just a dreamer here, but i still think Adel can make a huge impact if he can get his head skrewed on right (big IF, I know).
I would disagree, re-Barton. I would ease him back him. No need to rush. Henry and Sandro have formed an excellent pairing and Barton or Mutch, for that matter, are not match fit yet. They will probably be on the bench and will come back and probably be very important for us after the International break.
The one player i would love to see back would be: Onouha. I think he is vital to keeping our defence more solid. I'd have him in at Right Back and play Isla at Right midfield (like the team was set up for the Liverpool game - when we were so dominant until Sandro and Onouha had to go off). Then I'd play Vargas on the left (like he was for some of the game against Southampton). Although I prefer Fer to be in the middle, we could alternatively see Vargas playing just behind Charlie, in the floater position, and I'd have Fer on the left as he has been quite solid if unspectacular in this position for the first part of our recent matches.
Green Onouha, Caulker, Dunne, Yun Isla, Sandro, Henry, Fer or Vargas Vargas or Fer Austin Subs: McCarthy, Ferdinand, Traore, Barton, Krancjar, Hoilett, Zamora.
I think with this team we'd be very strong and capable of holding or hopefully even beating City this weekend.
Would keep the same team and let the others coming back ease their way back in if the form of any starters wains. The other thing I would like is to keep the same back 4 and GK for a while to solidify them. Teams normally do better when built from the back and some clean sheets would be invaluable to the points and confidence of this team.
If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked?
I'd want Bobby up top with Austin. We get more possession in the opposition half, and Charlie looks a lot less isolated this way. If we are going to attack them that's the way to do it. The usual 2 holding midfielders, although I think Harry might drop Barton straight back into the mix. Vargas down the right and Fer(I guess) down the left. In the long term would rather see Adel there but it wouldn't make sense against City where there is so much defending to be done. Bring him on later. The RB one is difficult for me, drop Isla who has really been improving but is an attacking option for the brick wall Ned? I'd favour Ned to be honest.
Scope to start 442 here as City usually do the same. I'd go:
Green
Isla Caulker Dunne Yun
Vargas Henry Sandro Fer
Austin Zamora
Subs: McCarthy, Taarabt, Barton, Kranjcar, Hill, Hoilett, Traore.
Get Vargas running at Clichy and we may get some joy. Fer can tuck in when possible to try and help win the midfield battle alongside Henry and Sandro.
I love how many people would happily drop Henry, a player that has been in brilliant form for us and specialises in protecting the defence and tracking midfield runners, for a player that has not kicked a ball in anger for 8 weeks. Not to mention previous displays against Citeh involving assault. Clearly Harry is the manager most of you deserve.
There'll never be a better time to beat Citeh.The classic case of the league game following a poor cup result,they'll be tired.My Citeh supporting mate sez it's all down to them not wearing the traditional white shorts. The word amongst their disgruntled fans is Pellegrini soon to be replaced by the Athletico Madrid manager. I'm going for 2-1 R's.
I'd be reluctant to change the starting line up, despite the return of so many. Drop Hoilett to the bench and replace him with 1 of Onouha/ Niko/ BZ - depending on the plan (what is that?). No doubt with their quality they should be too strong for us but they aren't in the best of form, Silva and Loarov are out, Kompany needs a fitness test. I'm hoping we can get a result but wouldn't want to bet on the outcome.
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Its the one position, now we're playing 4-4-2, that we always end up playing people out of position.
Fer is left footed but doesn't really suit that role, Armand is a possibility but a bit inconsistent and then we have Matt Phillips, Nico or Adel - none of who really fit there either.
I went Junior , just because of all the options , he has the scope to play there, if on song.
Feel a bit guilty leaving AT out of my 18, he DOES bring something but Hill offers more versatility for defensive cover.
Come on less of the Trescothick type defeatism, Cornish oooRRRR me old cockle.
I reckon we can do 'em and Vargas AND Charlie,with his nut, will score. The atmosphere will be electric. No doubt the miserable moaning charmless ungraceful unshaven SW6 tramp will be watching and get to hear a proper passionate unjaded crowd again....
Here is a copy and pasted and redacted and added to adaptation of a Cornish political blog:
Cornwall: Can we stand up for ourselves?
On the coming Saturday we have one of those rare opportunities to beat a Big 4 club, which come along once in a while, to decide what sort of Cornwall hoops home rule enclave and QPR back on top of the west London roost that we want.
Are the Hoops self-confident enough to take a genuine risk, to demonstrate the passion, resolve and ambition needed to build us up and give the big boys a biff and hence be a less profligate more powerful accountable team in the Cornish west country and west London?
Or would you prefer to be timid, diffident and defeatist and resign yourselves with muddling along with the present sub-par depressing miniscule points total ?
In Cornwall the Hoops minority have for so long got so used to not being able to take real decisions that they have become pliant and deferential; waiting for others to take decisions for them rather than thinking for themselves. So much so that the whole idea of actually standing up for yourselves appears to many to be both troubling and implausible.
On the coming Saturday we have an opportunity to demonstrate ambition and resolve — to take the game to the Citeh. The omens might to some faint hearts not look good. Well actually Man C will be well low on confidence after their mid week euro disaster. Whilst we take that vital quality from the last 3 games; MOMENTUM breeding CONFIDENCE!
If we can shake off our decades-long deferential beaten-before-we've-started attitude towards top 4 sides - Scum apart - the defeatism and cynicism that has pervaded Cornwall and west London in the past, and side step the tiresome party political tribalism which has suffocated so much initiative, we could be on the verge of giving these arrogant Bertie Big Bollock Mancs a right proper shellacking.
Andrew George MP 18th June 2007 OooRRRR you RRRRRRRRssssssss!!!!!!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Late added bonus, a little off-topic: Ah imaginary tubthumping speech making. Reminds me of a favourite cult film scene from 'Little Malcolm And His Struggle Against The Eunuchs' starring John Hurt:
[Post edited 7 Nov 2014 2:28]
Another great work distracting post 18stone. 'Little Malcolm And His Struggle Against The Eunuchs' looks highly amusing.
If you don't play JB, that will be 9 weeks, then 10, then..... he has to come back at some stage.
THAT game was a season and a half ago! - generally we're better with JB rather than without.
Taking off the Rs specs for a minute, no one has been "brilliant" the last 8 weeks, if they had we wouldn't be in 19th!
I praise Karl Henry through gritted teeth but praise where it's due - I wouldn't drop him for Barton for this game as that Toure is a beast but can be got at if he's shut out of the game and I'd say Henry will be a lot more effective at that job than Barton.
It would be a right touch if Kompany misses out as I'd say he's pound-for-pound the best centre-half in this league. It's evident how much they miss him when you look at what Bothroyd did to Matic (or whoever that lad was who played in the 2-3 a couple of years back). Boyata would be a good replacement from our perspective as I'd expect Zamora to give him a proper punishment pegging.
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