| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:33 - Jul 30 with 2420 views | GeoffThom |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:29 - Jul 30 by Zut_Alors |
Where do you think his natural position is, Geoff? |
The Koreans seemed to play him in the hole or centre mid as did Celtic and sunderland ,we tend to play him more defensively which I understand with his height and reading of the game I'm more than happy to rotate him with Leon and if the opportunity arises play him further forward |  | |  |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:34 - Jul 30 with 2419 views | GeoffThom |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:29 - Jul 30 by PozuelosSideys |
JDG is a flat track bully, and a very good one.
It only generates many a post because some people havent got a clue as to what theyre looking at. A bit like you and a certain W Bony..  |
Looks like your matching it with ki | | | |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:34 - Jul 30 with 2418 views | ItchySphincter |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:29 - Jul 30 by skippyjack |
You're getting there Geoff.. it's not quite bang on.. something else he does.. is vitally important on times.. that fans can't quite see.. but if I showed them a video and explained.. they'd understand. I find it funny I've taught myself this without any help.. you get the fans who are quick to shout off.. you got fans who can sit there and grasp it sort of.. you got fans who think they know their stuff but not enough.. then you've got unskilled fans like me.. who can point out the difficult stuff without any inside knowledge. |
You're starting to get a bit boring now skip. |  |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:37 - Jul 30 with 2406 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:34 - Jul 30 by GeoffThom |
Looks like your matching it with ki |
Only messing Geoff.
I just dont see it with Ki. Maybe i have the JDG blinkers on. Before we signed him when he was playing for Korea at the Olympics he stood out a mile. Way above the likes of Sturridge and on a par with some of the Brazilians and i thought 'what a player'.
But he just hasnt looked the same player in England. |  |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:39 - Jul 30 with 2388 views | monmouth |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:37 - Jul 30 by PozuelosSideys |
Only messing Geoff.
I just dont see it with Ki. Maybe i have the JDG blinkers on. Before we signed him when he was playing for Korea at the Olympics he stood out a mile. Way above the likes of Sturridge and on a par with some of the Brazilians and i thought 'what a player'.
But he just hasnt looked the same player in England. |
Yet? |  |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:40 - Jul 30 with 2385 views | GeoffThom |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:37 - Jul 30 by PozuelosSideys |
Only messing Geoff.
I just dont see it with Ki. Maybe i have the JDG blinkers on. Before we signed him when he was playing for Korea at the Olympics he stood out a mile. Way above the likes of Sturridge and on a par with some of the Brazilians and i thought 'what a player'.
But he just hasnt looked the same player in England. |
People have to realise it's the positions we play him in which Can make him look ordinary | | | |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:44 - Jul 30 with 2370 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:39 - Jul 30 by monmouth |
Yet? |
Yep. Yet!
My feeling is that he bossed games in the Olympics, in Scotland and International level, but apart from a few games where people were blowing smoke up his arse in Sunderland before he disappeared, hes kinda found his level. | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:58 - Jul 30 with 2322 views | premierjack |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 16:56 - Jul 30 by ValeJack |
Are you talking about Ki or JDG?
I'd go as far to say that with the current players we have he is a better fit than De Guzman. |
Spot on! |  | | |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:05 - Jul 30 with 2305 views | Musical_Swan |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 17:40 - Jul 30 by GeoffThom |
People have to realise it's the positions we play him in which Can make him look ordinary |
Problem is he's not good enough to start in his preferred position, and he certainly isn't versatile enough to be anything but short term cover in any cm role.
I always felt he'd be an ideal candidate for the Leon role but his positioning defensively is horrendous! Playing him there for me is a no go. Shelvey is ahead of him for both the reamaining cm roles imo, and that's not forgetting Siggy too. I'm sure if it wasnt for Canas situation Ki would be at Villa now. |  |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:16 - Jul 30 with 2278 views | Oldjack |
Ki has improved a lot after his stunt up north ,he'll be a worthy asset to us |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:20 - Jul 30 with 2266 views | ItchySphincter |
You were always keen on him OJ. He's got everything he needs imo except he needs to man up when we're up against it. No way is he a better or more effective player than JDG as seems to be insinuated on here. | |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:20 - Jul 30 with 2266 views | Musical_Swan |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:16 - Jul 30 by Oldjack |
Ki has improved a lot after his stunt up north ,he'll be a worthy asset to us |
I genuinely hope your right!
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:21 - Jul 30 with 2264 views | Neath_Jack |
Those comparing Ki with JDG need to go and watch some highlights of their games whilst playing for us. There is no comparison, Ki ain't much cop, and JDG suits our style perfectly. I'm hearing and getting, we haven't used him in his best position, well if that's as the AM then we ain't going to see him there anytime soon either. So it's a get rid from me, providing we get someone better in first. |  |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:21 - Jul 30 with 2262 views | Senhin |
Really don't understand all this "he passes sideways" stuff... He was usually playing in place of Leon when he was here, asked to do Leon's role... Aside from that not being a position he was used to, in a new team and a big step up in quality of opposition... What is it that Leon does? He receives the ball from the defenders and passes it sideways. |  |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:25 - Jul 30 with 2251 views | Musical_Swan |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:21 - Jul 30 by Senhin |
Really don't understand all this "he passes sideways" stuff... He was usually playing in place of Leon when he was here, asked to do Leon's role... Aside from that not being a position he was used to, in a new team and a big step up in quality of opposition... What is it that Leon does? He receives the ball from the defenders and passes it sideways. |
Yes, but that's just a small part of Leons role. Defensivley Ki can't touch him. | |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:26 - Jul 30 with 2049 views | ItchySphincter |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:21 - Jul 30 by Senhin |
Really don't understand all this "he passes sideways" stuff... He was usually playing in place of Leon when he was here, asked to do Leon's role... Aside from that not being a position he was used to, in a new team and a big step up in quality of opposition... What is it that Leon does? He receives the ball from the defenders and passes it sideways. |
Hello lil' dude.  | |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:31 - Jul 30 with 2034 views | skippyjack |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:25 - Jul 30 by Musical_Swan |
Yes, but that's just a small part of Leons role. Defensivley Ki can't touch him. |
True.. but Ki can get our defence out of trouble.. better than Leon when teams press us.. people rarely see this though. |  |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:37 - Jul 30 with 2007 views | MattG |
Would I prefer JDG? Yes.
If a deal can't be done for JDG, would I take Ki as his replacement? Also yes. |  | | |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:37 - Jul 30 with 2007 views | Musical_Swan |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:31 - Jul 30 by skippyjack |
True.. but Ki can get our defence out of trouble.. better than Leon when teams press us.. people rarely see this though. |
I wouldn't say that. Leon is excllent under pressure, and although his pass distribution is very one dimensional, Ki's longer range is no good unless he's got time and space. He gets very sloppy when closed down. | |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:37 - Jul 30 with 2007 views | phact0rri |
He can pick a pass for sure. But he doesn't really look to have the pace to be getting into attacking positions like he seemed to do in what I caught of the pre-season matches. I don't recall him before he went to the blackcats. But if he can just get around pass the ball and create chances thats fine and good.
I thought he did a descent job with Plymouth but is that really a test? I'm willing to give him a chance. But I couldn't compare him DeGuzman's quality at the moment. |  |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:43 - Jul 30 with 1988 views | skippyjack |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:37 - Jul 30 by Musical_Swan |
I wouldn't say that. Leon is excllent under pressure, and although his pass distribution is very one dimensional, Ki's longer range is no good unless he's got time and space. He gets very sloppy when closed down. |
Bold time and space.. how many times does he get closed down during a match.. Ki is actually alright under pressure.. there's no point arguing with me.. I'm a loser... an actual loser. | |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:46 - Jul 30 with 1975 views | Musical_Swan |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:37 - Jul 30 by phact0rri |
He can pick a pass for sure. But he doesn't really look to have the pace to be getting into attacking positions like he seemed to do in what I caught of the pre-season matches. I don't recall him before he went to the blackcats. But if he can just get around pass the ball and create chances thats fine and good.
I thought he did a descent job with Plymouth but is that really a test? I'm willing to give him a chance. But I couldn't compare him DeGuzman's quality at the moment. |
Can't disagree with the talent he has, but just can't see a scenario where we can afford to let him 'get around pass the ball and create chances' without him having to put a shift in defensively.
Just feel for him to be effective we'd have to carry him a bit, and unfortunately I don't think he's good enough to warrant this. | |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 19:19 - Jul 30 with 1925 views | Oldjack |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:20 - Jul 30 by Musical_Swan |
I genuinely hope your right!
... for once! |
bollocks ,i know class when i see it | |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 19:21 - Jul 30 with 1917 views | Senhin |
| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 18:37 - Jul 30 by phact0rri |
He can pick a pass for sure. But he doesn't really look to have the pace to be getting into attacking positions like he seemed to do in what I caught of the pre-season matches. I don't recall him before he went to the blackcats. But if he can just get around pass the ball and create chances thats fine and good.
I thought he did a descent job with Plymouth but is that really a test? I'm willing to give him a chance. But I couldn't compare him DeGuzman's quality at the moment. |
He wasn't asked to get in attacking positions. He was playing Leon's role a lot of the time. In the games where he was used where jdg was playing he did attack. He just didn't score, and his form of attacking wasn't run into the box which people seem to think is the only way to attack. He usually have it to the attacking midfielder to attack, which is what they are supposed to do, or playyed through to one of the wings. | |
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| Monk - Ki will get a new contract on 19:31 - Jul 30 with 1892 views | Dr_Winston |
Sunderland aren't exactly fighting tooth and nail to get him back.
Not convinced by him at all. In a battle between the two keeping JdG would be by far the better choice for me. |  |
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