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West Brom 18:52 - Mar 8 with 9152 viewsLiberty

Our first genuine, must win game of the season.

Win and I can hear the sigh of relief now.

Lose, and the meltdown would be extraordinary.
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West Brom on 21:47 - Mar 8 with 1902 viewsLiberty

West Brom on 21:35 - Mar 8 by longlostjack

We 'll beat West Brom and you'll be liberated Liberty


I look forward to it.

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West Brom on 21:56 - Mar 8 with 1884 viewsScoobyWho

West Brom on 20:23 - Mar 8 by builthjack

Crucial we get 3 points


Here here. Its a got to win game.
must win ? No.
Got to win ? Yes yes yes.

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West Brom on 23:36 - Mar 8 with 1834 viewsDyfnant

Win and they won't catch us, we'll be safe.

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West Brom on 23:38 - Mar 8 with 1830 viewswaynekerr55

West Brom on 23:36 - Mar 8 by Dyfnant

Win and they won't catch us, we'll be safe.


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West Brom on 08:09 - Mar 9 with 1759 viewsbuilthjack

Red hot atmosphere, like the scum game, is needed

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West Brom on 09:57 - Mar 9 with 1700 viewsAnotherJohn

Relegated if we lose? Well not automatically, granted. But where will the needed points come from if we don't win a game like this, especially after the Palace result? Bear in mind too that the Baggies are on a truly awful run. So for me it is about as close to 'must win' as they get, apart from a game like Hull of 2003 that would definitely send us down.
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West Brom on 10:15 - Mar 9 with 1689 viewsicecoldjack

West Brom on 09:57 - Mar 9 by AnotherJohn

Relegated if we lose? Well not automatically, granted. But where will the needed points come from if we don't win a game like this, especially after the Palace result? Bear in mind too that the Baggies are on a truly awful run. So for me it is about as close to 'must win' as they get, apart from a game like Hull of 2003 that would definitely send us down.


Exactly . there are people saying this aint a must win but where do we expect to get a win if not against WBA ?

Certain games are "must win " in this league plain and simple, its how we have always operated since getting here,certin games are targeted more than others, im sure that behind closed doors the management were looking at Palace as a must win,they failed so the WBA game now is much more important .

Bottom line is that if we want the team to stay in the premier league they have to be beating the likes of WBA and Palace .
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West Brom on 16:40 - Mar 9 with 1580 viewsLiberty

On paper, West Brom is the easiest of the next 10 matches.

We should be confident, despite recent results.

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West Brom on 21:16 - Mar 10 with 1471 viewsSpratty

West Brom on 20:55 - Mar 8 by Uxbridge

If we draw we could be in the bottom 3? Not really.

File under ... great to win, nightmare if we lose,


Our games against Arsenal away and Chelsea at home would be great to win

Our games against Everton, Newcastle and Hull Away and Southampton at home I would gauge as great to good to win.

That only leaves Sunderland Away and Norwich, Villa and West Brom at home. Surely what would now be regarded as potentially our easiest home match (below us and in poor form) must at least be important to win, in (or even regardless of) our current position.

Out of the above 10 remaining games (still over a ¼ of our PL season) we need probably 3 wins or 2 wins and 3 draws (9 points) for safety — without relying on the other teams to do us a real favour.

Last season we never dropped below 11th place and from Christmas never dropped below 9th - finishing on 46 points. This season 24 (almost 2/3rds) of the PL games were completed under Laudrup (37 including cup games) in exactly 6 months. On his departure we were only down a total of 1 point on last season’s PL total against like for like fixtures (averaging a point per game - as it included quite a run of top level games).
Since he left we are down 1 more point (like for like) across 4 matches (although averaged 1.25 points per game — the same as the reverse fixtures this year).

In the like for like fixtures to our remaining 10 games we gained 15 points last season. We only need another 9 points. That means altogether in the final quarter we can drop over 1/3rd (2 wins) of the comparable points gained in these 10 games last year and still be safe. So we have a reasonable safety barrier (needing less than a point per game). Additionally now we have the advantage of a 25% lighter schedule, the majority (potentially all) of key injuries resolved and no more European away trips.

However we still need to be picking up points against the weaker teams which will save us having to gain significant points against the strongest and middling teams. Last season we beat Newcastle and Arsenal away and West Brom at home and picked up single points in all the other corresponding fixtures to our last 10, except for Norwich. If we fail to get anything from Newcastle and Arsenal away and Chelsea at home then even if we beat West Brom we will still need to average at least a draw from every other match.

Unless something goes drastically wrong we should be comfortably clear of the bottom by the end of the season and that should be our aim, but we do not want to be depending on points at our last game at Sunderland away. I predict 12-14th finish so long as we play to our capability and slightly higher if we play really well. A win on Saturday is therefore important not least in terms of confidence for the team and keeping us where our team quality should.
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West Brom on 21:31 - Mar 10 with 1452 viewsTrundle10

Very important game Saturday. If you want to be a pedant you can say it is not must win. But it would be a lot better if we did win it.
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West Brom on 22:01 - Mar 10 with 1425 viewsJackFish

Yeah, if we win they're going to find it very hard to catch us, especially since they haven't won for ages. In no way is it a must win though.
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West Brom on 06:25 - Mar 11 with 1350 viewsVetchitBack

It's certainly a "must-win" in the modern Premier League lexicon but as some have pointed out not literally anything of the sort.

It's more a "if we can't beat West Brom at home..." type game.

But I think the Palace game/result has produced some false pessimism. I think even under Rodgers we'd have struggled against that second half side. Never mind tiredness clearly being a factor. West Brom aren't of the same physical ilk so I'm confident Monk will quickly shoot back up in peoples' opinions come 5 Saturday.

The orthodox are always orthodox, regardless of the orthodoxy.

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West Brom on 07:38 - Mar 11 with 1326 viewscontroversial_jack

We have been in a relegation fight for some time now, but the happy clappers haven't quite got it yet.
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West Brom on 09:21 - Mar 11 with 1291 viewsBackHeel

vital game, and is Chico suspended?
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West Brom on 09:30 - Mar 11 with 1285 viewsDull1Thomas

West Brom on 09:21 - Mar 11 by BackHeel

vital game, and is Chico suspended?


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West Brom on 09:39 - Mar 11 with 1213 viewsDr_Winston

Not winning it might not result in our immediate relegation but it's certainly approaching "must win" territory for me. Beating them would increase the gap between us and the strugglers, put doubt in their minds and confidence in ours.

Time we started putting teams like this to the sword. We should have done it last week. Few excuses for not doing it this one.

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West Brom on 11:28 - Mar 11 with 1163 viewsmonmouth

West Brom on 09:39 - Mar 11 by Dr_Winston

Not winning it might not result in our immediate relegation but it's certainly approaching "must win" territory for me. Beating them would increase the gap between us and the strugglers, put doubt in their minds and confidence in ours.

Time we started putting teams like this to the sword. We should have done it last week. Few excuses for not doing it this one.

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NO excuses.

If we don't beat them we deserve the nervous two months that come with it. Beat them and being 8 points clear with 9 games to go is all but safety.

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West Brom on 12:03 - Mar 11 with 1125 viewsA_Fans_Dad

West Brom on 21:16 - Mar 10 by Spratty

Our games against Arsenal away and Chelsea at home would be great to win

Our games against Everton, Newcastle and Hull Away and Southampton at home I would gauge as great to good to win.

That only leaves Sunderland Away and Norwich, Villa and West Brom at home. Surely what would now be regarded as potentially our easiest home match (below us and in poor form) must at least be important to win, in (or even regardless of) our current position.

Out of the above 10 remaining games (still over a ¼ of our PL season) we need probably 3 wins or 2 wins and 3 draws (9 points) for safety — without relying on the other teams to do us a real favour.

Last season we never dropped below 11th place and from Christmas never dropped below 9th - finishing on 46 points. This season 24 (almost 2/3rds) of the PL games were completed under Laudrup (37 including cup games) in exactly 6 months. On his departure we were only down a total of 1 point on last season’s PL total against like for like fixtures (averaging a point per game - as it included quite a run of top level games).
Since he left we are down 1 more point (like for like) across 4 matches (although averaged 1.25 points per game — the same as the reverse fixtures this year).

In the like for like fixtures to our remaining 10 games we gained 15 points last season. We only need another 9 points. That means altogether in the final quarter we can drop over 1/3rd (2 wins) of the comparable points gained in these 10 games last year and still be safe. So we have a reasonable safety barrier (needing less than a point per game). Additionally now we have the advantage of a 25% lighter schedule, the majority (potentially all) of key injuries resolved and no more European away trips.

However we still need to be picking up points against the weaker teams which will save us having to gain significant points against the strongest and middling teams. Last season we beat Newcastle and Arsenal away and West Brom at home and picked up single points in all the other corresponding fixtures to our last 10, except for Norwich. If we fail to get anything from Newcastle and Arsenal away and Chelsea at home then even if we beat West Brom we will still need to average at least a draw from every other match.

Unless something goes drastically wrong we should be comfortably clear of the bottom by the end of the season and that should be our aim, but we do not want to be depending on points at our last game at Sunderland away. I predict 12-14th finish so long as we play to our capability and slightly higher if we play really well. A win on Saturday is therefore important not least in terms of confidence for the team and keeping us where our team quality should.


Funny how you keep comparing this season's performance with last season's performance, the club has done quite well this season playing without it's main goal scorer.
By this stage last season Michu had scored no less than 15 goals and added another 3 later on.
But of the last 9 games of the season under ML we lost 6, drew 3 and won NONE. giving us just 3 points. The last game we got thrashed 3 nil by Fulham.
If the other teams below us had performed better during that period we would have ended in a much lower position than we did.
Our position this season is made much worse as there is no points buffer like last season.
The problem with comparing like games with like games is that some of the teams have changed quite drastically since last season or even from the beginning of this season.
So I agree we just have to maximise the points that we can get from the weaker teams.
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West Brom on 12:06 - Mar 11 with 1124 viewsJackFish

West Brom on 12:03 - Mar 11 by A_Fans_Dad

Funny how you keep comparing this season's performance with last season's performance, the club has done quite well this season playing without it's main goal scorer.
By this stage last season Michu had scored no less than 15 goals and added another 3 later on.
But of the last 9 games of the season under ML we lost 6, drew 3 and won NONE. giving us just 3 points. The last game we got thrashed 3 nil by Fulham.
If the other teams below us had performed better during that period we would have ended in a much lower position than we did.
Our position this season is made much worse as there is no points buffer like last season.
The problem with comparing like games with like games is that some of the teams have changed quite drastically since last season or even from the beginning of this season.
So I agree we just have to maximise the points that we can get from the weaker teams.


That's not entirely true, we beat Wigan midweek in one of the last games of the season, but it was one in ten I believe.
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West Brom on 12:11 - Mar 11 with 1119 viewsA_Fans_Dad

West Brom on 12:06 - Mar 11 by JackFish

That's not entirely true, we beat Wigan midweek in one of the last games of the season, but it was one in ten I believe.


You're right I missed that one

We also had 40 points by this stage.
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West Brom on 14:32 - Mar 11 with 1071 viewsoldcob

We shouldn't even be thinking about not winning. Just get there and make lots of noise and get behind the boys for the full ninety minutes. I just had my hip replacement so won't be there [seats too low] so could one of you jack bastards shout twice as loud to make up for me please? Hope to be back for Chelsea game, watching it on TV via lap top is SO not the same.
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West Brom on 15:57 - Mar 11 with 1032 viewsLiberty

West Brom on 09:21 - Mar 11 by BackHeel

vital game, and is Chico suspended?


Yep Chico suspended. May have seen Monk play if he hadn't been manager.

Michu looking 50 - 50, Monk says in paper that if fit, probably won't start, understandably.

He's 2nd best striker in squad , so will be great to have back.

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West Brom on 16:38 - Mar 11 with 1000 viewsLord_Bony

West Brom on 12:03 - Mar 11 by A_Fans_Dad

Funny how you keep comparing this season's performance with last season's performance, the club has done quite well this season playing without it's main goal scorer.
By this stage last season Michu had scored no less than 15 goals and added another 3 later on.
But of the last 9 games of the season under ML we lost 6, drew 3 and won NONE. giving us just 3 points. The last game we got thrashed 3 nil by Fulham.
If the other teams below us had performed better during that period we would have ended in a much lower position than we did.
Our position this season is made much worse as there is no points buffer like last season.
The problem with comparing like games with like games is that some of the teams have changed quite drastically since last season or even from the beginning of this season.
So I agree we just have to maximise the points that we can get from the weaker teams.


Good Post.

Our position at the moment is pretty much tentative with only a four point buffer zone,bearing in mind Sunderland have quite a few games in hand too.


We must win this golden opportunity to widen that gap.

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West Brom on 16:44 - Mar 11 with 994 viewsswanny

Out of curiosity, are the posters saying that this is a must win, the same posters as were saying that Crystal Palace was a must win? If so - what is the point - we didn't win our previous 'must win' game, so how is this one even relavent any more?

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West Brom on 16:50 - Mar 11 with 986 viewsLiberty

West Brom on 16:44 - Mar 11 by swanny

Out of curiosity, are the posters saying that this is a must win, the same posters as were saying that Crystal Palace was a must win? If so - what is the point - we didn't win our previous 'must win' game, so how is this one even relavent any more?

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