| Alfie Lloyd 10:45 - Mar 9 with 3030 views | Dorse |
I am not sure what to make of him.
On the one hand, he's pacy, prepared to get stuck into a row with the opposition defence (especially as a second half sub), has already got a couple of goals, is young enough to have a good career here and still get a big move etc. And above all that, he's one of our Dev Squad successes, in as much as he's hit the First Team and is making a contribution most weeks. Big thumbs up from me.
On the other hand, however, his control and first touch just aren't consistent enough (which I put down to experience), he gives away some iffy fouls and, Hull City aside, he seems on a different frequency to the rest of the team at times. To be fair, so was Yang yesterday, so it's definitely not just him.
Now, I actually like Alfie, I want him to succeed, but I'm pretty conflicted about where he is currently. Is it that he is being used incorrectly, his age / experience or is he not what I'm hoping for? I don't think he's the messiah buy I'm not convinced he's just a naughty boy either.
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| Alfie Lloyd on 10:01 - Mar 10 with 539 views | dmm |
| Alfie Lloyd on 09:33 - Mar 10 by daveB |
the beauty of being mid table is that we have a chance to find out if he's any good rather than sending him on loans for multiple years. He's done OK in some games, looked poor in others but you are only going to know but playing him rather than loaning him out |
I get that, Dave, but I can't see him being played enough to the end of the season to properly assess him, particularly if he does have an injury. There's only 10 games to go. |  | | |
| Alfie Lloyd on 10:41 - Mar 10 with 463 views | TheChef |
| Alfie Lloyd on 11:01 - Mar 9 by Watford_Ranger |
He was superb at Hull. He and Saito in different ways totally turned that game from a dreadful 0-0 or 1-0 defeat into a 2-0 lead and relatively comfortable win. Great when he came on against Luton. Lovely finish at Miiiillll.
Chasing a game against a team sitting deep he’s not up to it IMO but there’s a player there. If we had capable and mostly available forwards he’d be getting much needed loan time so he’s getting 15 mins here and there mainly which isn’t helping him. |
Yeah fair point Saturday was not the game for him to come on - does better when defences are pushing up and he has space to work with.
Usually he is a handy option off the bench, but probably no more than that. |  |
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| Alfie Lloyd on 12:30 - Mar 10 with 292 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Alfie Lloyd on 09:48 - Mar 10 by Watford_Ranger |
It’s a shame we (presumably) can’t recall Kelman. Would’ve liked to let him have a run with the paucity of options available. |
What I cannot figure out is why we did not get more strikers in this january knowing we were one injury away from having nobody up top really .
Were they expecting our other attacking players to suddenly start scoring after not doing it since August its really killing us this losing streak.Alfie is all fire and energy which helps when we are leading and stretching teams but when we are losing I think he cannot deliver right now.
Once we fall behind by 1 not to mention 2 we are simply not clinical enough to even get a draw and Alfie is getting taken care of by big nasty experienced defenders without much protection .
League 1 is his landing spot |  | | |
| Alfie Lloyd on 12:51 - Mar 10 with 239 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Alfie Lloyd on 12:30 - Mar 10 by CLAREMAN1995 |
What I cannot figure out is why we did not get more strikers in this january knowing we were one injury away from having nobody up top really .
Were they expecting our other attacking players to suddenly start scoring after not doing it since August its really killing us this losing streak.Alfie is all fire and energy which helps when we are leading and stretching teams but when we are losing I think he cannot deliver right now.
Once we fall behind by 1 not to mention 2 we are simply not clinical enough to even get a draw and Alfie is getting taken care of by big nasty experienced defenders without much protection .
League 1 is his landing spot |
Money probably. Doubt Celar and Frey are on small money given the way Frey’s contract was supposedly done from those more ITK on here. Everyone wants a striker and they ain’t cheap if they’re known to be good enough. If we were in a more desperate position at the time looking down or in a very good one looking up then maybe it would have been different. |  | | |
| Alfie Lloyd on 13:03 - Mar 10 with 203 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Alfie Lloyd on 12:31 - Mar 9 by dmm |
He's 22 this month, not so young for a football player. He has 50 senior games under his belt, albeit 21 in the National League, so not that inexperienced. But I think you're right that he needs a loan out to help him in his career, wherever that might be. |
21 is hardly old and 50 senior games (21 in the National League and most of the rest coming on as a sub) doesn't exactly scream experience. The point of the loan would be to give him that experience of regular game time so he can hone his craft. [Post edited 10 Mar 13:05]
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| Alfie Lloyd on 13:13 - Mar 10 with 177 views | gazza1 |
| Alfie Lloyd on 13:03 - Mar 10 by Benny_the_Ball |
21 is hardly old and 50 senior games (21 in the National League and most of the rest coming on as a sub) doesn't exactly scream experience. The point of the loan would be to give him that experience of regular game time so he can hone his craft. [Post edited 10 Mar 13:05]
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Clutching at straws.......National League is totally/massive different level than Championship.
Likewise Kelman has had his chance.....time to move on. | | | |
| Alfie Lloyd on 13:41 - Mar 10 with 126 views | R_from_afar |
While acknowledging that he is not currently good enough to start in the Championship, I think it's encouraging that, at least sometimes, he makes a very meaningful contribution. We've had development players come off the bench and look completely lost.
Also, I think his passion and drive mean that he can improve.
I think he's worth persevering with, for a while. |  |
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| Alfie Lloyd on 13:42 - Mar 10 with 123 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Alfie Lloyd on 13:13 - Mar 10 by gazza1 |
Clutching at straws.......National League is totally/massive different level than Championship.
Likewise Kelman has had his chance.....time to move on. |
I agree that the National League is a totally different proposition to the Championship. That's why I consider Lloyd inexperienced.
Comparisons with Kelman are inappropriate. Kelman has been at QPR since 2020 but is yet to make the Championship grade. He's spent the majority of that time on loan to lower league clubs. I would understand if QPR decide to let him go.
Lloyd, on the other hand, has just broken into the QPR first team squad. He's made 25 Championship appearances this season, scoring 2 goals. Granted, he's no Michael Owen but overall he's acquitted himself reasonably well. I think it would be premature to call time on his fledgling QPR career.
Remember, it's a squad game. Whilst Alfie is still raw, his pace and enthusiasm does provide an interesting option from the bench. If he can learn to compose himself, he could prove to be a useful player. [Post edited 10 Mar 13:47]
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| Alfie Lloyd on 14:00 - Mar 10 with 93 views | gazza1 |
| Alfie Lloyd on 13:42 - Mar 10 by Benny_the_Ball |
I agree that the National League is a totally different proposition to the Championship. That's why I consider Lloyd inexperienced.
Comparisons with Kelman are inappropriate. Kelman has been at QPR since 2020 but is yet to make the Championship grade. He's spent the majority of that time on loan to lower league clubs. I would understand if QPR decide to let him go.
Lloyd, on the other hand, has just broken into the QPR first team squad. He's made 25 Championship appearances this season, scoring 2 goals. Granted, he's no Michael Owen but overall he's acquitted himself reasonably well. I think it would be premature to call time on his fledgling QPR career.
Remember, it's a squad game. Whilst Alfie is still raw, his pace and enthusiasm does provide an interesting option from the bench. If he can learn to compose himself, he could prove to be a useful player. [Post edited 10 Mar 13:47]
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Lloyd and Kelman will be very fortunate to play many games in the Championship. We have one striker, an old man called Frey who is not very good either and that is it but he is better than both of the!!! In fact, the Scot we sold to B'ham is better than either of them!!!
Not sure what going to on loan play in the National League at 21 is going to get him......he struggles to control the ball properly!!!! | | | |
| Alfie Lloyd on 14:02 - Mar 10 with 91 views | DavieQPR |
Reminds me a bit of Armstrong where pace and enthusiasm disguise lack of skill. Another who is beginning to remind me of 'an athlete with boots on'. As opposed to Kolli who is showing just that bit more. |  | | |
| Alfie Lloyd on 14:21 - Mar 10 with 55 views | Watford_Ranger |
Writing off Kelman entirely seems silly to me. If we spent a bit on a 23-year-old at Orient playing and scoring regularly we’d be mildly optimistic. How poor he was before matters little.
If Cifuentes has decided against him then fine but I’d be telling him he’s got a real chance here with a decent pre-season. | | | |
| Alfie Lloyd on 14:35 - Mar 10 with 34 views | Paddyhoops |
| Alfie Lloyd on 14:21 - Mar 10 by Watford_Ranger |
Writing off Kelman entirely seems silly to me. If we spent a bit on a 23-year-old at Orient playing and scoring regularly we’d be mildly optimistic. How poor he was before matters little.
If Cifuentes has decided against him then fine but I’d be telling him he’s got a real chance here with a decent pre-season. |
Kelman was sent out on loan to get experience of playing regularly. Which he has and with a view to scoring goals which he has done with aplomb .
He has ticked the boxes . I think he deserves a chance. Whether he’ll get one is another story . | | | |
| Alfie Lloyd on 14:40 - Mar 10 with 25 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Alfie Lloyd on 14:00 - Mar 10 by gazza1 |
Lloyd and Kelman will be very fortunate to play many games in the Championship. We have one striker, an old man called Frey who is not very good either and that is it but he is better than both of the!!! In fact, the Scot we sold to B'ham is better than either of them!!!
Not sure what going to on loan play in the National League at 21 is going to get him......he struggles to control the ball properly!!!! |
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
Earlier in the conversation another poster mentioned that Alfie has 50 senior appearances to date, 21 of which were in the National League (back in 2022-23). Somehow, you've translated that to a call for Alfie to go back on loan there.
No one has suggested that, no one is suggesting that, and for you to even think that anyone is suggesting that is laughable. [Post edited 10 Mar 14:45]
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