| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history 08:11 - Apr 27 with 17968 views | Parlay |
Garry Monk achieved the best points per game ratio than any other Swansea Premier League manager in history after the win against Aston Villa. Even more impressive is he has managed it with a squad about to play its 60th game in the coming fortnight.
Garry Monk - 1.25 points per game (47.5 pts per 38 game season)
Brendan Rodgers - 1.23 points per game (47 pts per 38 game season)
Michael Laudrup - 1.12 points per game (42.5 pts per 38 game season)
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:52 - Sep 21 with 1849 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:48 - Sep 21 by C_jack |
Aim to give as good as I get.
I know which side handles it better. |
It's fairly sickening though, isn't it? Here you are, taking pleasure in the fact that the club you claim to support has lost a couple of games because it helps to prove you "right" on the internet. And to think all those people who slated me when I suggested that they actively want Monk to fail, and here you are proving that you at least want exactly that.
Tragic. |  |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:02 - Sep 21 with 1843 views | C_jack |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:52 - Sep 21 by exiledclaseboy |
It's fairly sickening though, isn't it? Here you are, taking pleasure in the fact that the club you claim to support has lost a couple of games because it helps to prove you "right" on the internet. And to think all those people who slated me when I suggested that they actively want Monk to fail, and here you are proving that you at least want exactly that.
Tragic. |
The only thing I've proven is that which side of the argument can take the verbal jousting better, as evidenced by your strange post. People were "slating" you because the 'actively want Monk to fail' retort is laughable.
Chill your bean, man. You weren't the first one I expected to jump. |  |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:07 - Sep 21 with 1831 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:02 - Sep 21 by C_jack |
The only thing I've proven is that which side of the argument can take the verbal jousting better, as evidenced by your strange post. People were "slating" you because the 'actively want Monk to fail' retort is laughable.
Chill your bean, man. You weren't the first one I expected to jump. |
It's laughable but here you are proving it anyway.
As you were. | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:33 - Sep 21 with 1796 views | bluenile |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:07 - Sep 21 by exiledclaseboy |
It's laughable but here you are proving it anyway.
As you were. |
"The only thing I've proven is that which side of the argument can take the verbal jousting better"
Is that how you see this site, as a battleground for your views? Strange |  |
| Open the ipod bay doors Hal |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:40 - Sep 21 with 1786 views | C_jack |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:33 - Sep 21 by bluenile |
"The only thing I've proven is that which side of the argument can take the verbal jousting better"
Is that how you see this site, as a battleground for your views? Strange |
Do I see this site as a place to put one's views against a possibly opposite opinion?
Umm, yes. | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 14:29 - Sep 21 with 1715 views | Spratty |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:52 - Sep 21 by exiledclaseboy |
It's fairly sickening though, isn't it? Here you are, taking pleasure in the fact that the club you claim to support has lost a couple of games because it helps to prove you "right" on the internet. And to think all those people who slated me when I suggested that they actively want Monk to fail, and here you are proving that you at least want exactly that.
Tragic. |
What is tragic is your constant need to put down other fans
There is a difference between
putting the counter argument on a pathetic point scoring thread to show people how meaningless this is.
to hoping our team will lose so you can prove them wrong
But of course you know that don't you ECB - perhaps you are hoping our team will lose so people will make posts like this so you can use it as some spurious argument that they want our team to lose. Round and round we go - pathetic stupid argument isn't it - you got it.
So for completeness let us look at the stats:
Last season
(with an almost fully fit team and a much more spaced out fixture list)
In the 14 games after sacking Laudrup (and in addition to going straight out of the cups)
we we bleeding PL points (on like for like games with the previous top ten PL finish season)
at over 500% the rate that we were in the 24 games before Laudrup left
That despite the fact that Laudrup was having to cope with major key injuries, a massively crowded fixture list and a disruptive club and team captain.
Reason for that:
Despite all the difficulties Laudrup was still managing to keep us on almost identical like for like PL points with his previous years top ten PL finish, as well as keeping us in the FA cup and progressing us through the group stages of the Europa. Yet some seek to abuse him even for that.
This is a manager that gave us one of our most successful seasons in our history and made historic achievements for our club. Yet the abuse so turned the stomach of our chairman that he publicly asked for it to stop and stated ML was the most genuine and honest person you could meet.
Perhaps the best comparison will be what Garry achieves in his first season against what ML did in his. Garry obviously has a low opinion of Laudrup's ability as a manager (despite all he achieved for us) and presumably of the previous manager's too as he has said we have to do much better than we have in the past. Good on him if he achieves that but it will take some doing and the time to crow (if crowing about how much better you are is your thing - although it is pretty low rent IMHO even when you have something significant to crow about) is when he has actually achieved this. |  | | |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 01:52 - Sep 30 with 1642 views | Parlay |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 10:53 - Sep 21 by C_jack |
Been a bit slow with the maths lately.
Just a gentle nudge. |
20th Prem game in charge...
Garry Monk - 1.4 points per game (54 pts per 38 game season)
Brendan Rodgers - 1.23 points per game (47 pts per 38 game season)
Michael Laudrup - 1.12 points per game (42.5 pts per 38 game season)
[Post edited 10 Nov 2014 1:19]
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:05 - Sep 30 with 1561 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 01:52 - Sep 30 by Parlay |
20th Prem game in charge...
Garry Monk - 1.4 points per game (54 pts per 38 game season)
Brendan Rodgers - 1.23 points per game (47 pts per 38 game season)
Michael Laudrup - 1.12 points per game (42.5 pts per 38 game season)
[Post edited 10 Nov 2014 1:19]
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Well said. |  | | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:50 - Sep 30 with 1503 views | jeza739 |
Every manager has had a positive impact on us during the last ten yes. YES everyone. We should never forget the impact (on and off the pitch ) ML had but things turned sour and the change was right. Subsequent events on and off the pitch are proving that. GM is doing a fantastic job and long may it continue. | | | |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 13:42 - Sep 30 with 1483 views | JackSomething |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:50 - Sep 30 by jeza739 |
Every manager has had a positive impact on us during the last ten yes. YES everyone. We should never forget the impact (on and off the pitch ) ML had but things turned sour and the change was right. Subsequent events on and off the pitch are proving that. GM is doing a fantastic job and long may it continue. |
I would say the vast majority of Swans fans agree with you.
Unfortunately when it comes to Planet Swans, the minority who disagree (on both ends of the scale) tend to be the ones who won't/can't move on and shut up about it. |  |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 14:07 - Sep 30 with 1457 views | JackFish |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 14:29 - Sep 21 by Spratty |
What is tragic is your constant need to put down other fans
There is a difference between
putting the counter argument on a pathetic point scoring thread to show people how meaningless this is.
to hoping our team will lose so you can prove them wrong
But of course you know that don't you ECB - perhaps you are hoping our team will lose so people will make posts like this so you can use it as some spurious argument that they want our team to lose. Round and round we go - pathetic stupid argument isn't it - you got it.
So for completeness let us look at the stats:
Last season
(with an almost fully fit team and a much more spaced out fixture list)
In the 14 games after sacking Laudrup (and in addition to going straight out of the cups)
we we bleeding PL points (on like for like games with the previous top ten PL finish season)
at over 500% the rate that we were in the 24 games before Laudrup left
That despite the fact that Laudrup was having to cope with major key injuries, a massively crowded fixture list and a disruptive club and team captain.
Reason for that:
Despite all the difficulties Laudrup was still managing to keep us on almost identical like for like PL points with his previous years top ten PL finish, as well as keeping us in the FA cup and progressing us through the group stages of the Europa. Yet some seek to abuse him even for that.
This is a manager that gave us one of our most successful seasons in our history and made historic achievements for our club. Yet the abuse so turned the stomach of our chairman that he publicly asked for it to stop and stated ML was the most genuine and honest person you could meet.
Perhaps the best comparison will be what Garry achieves in his first season against what ML did in his. Garry obviously has a low opinion of Laudrup's ability as a manager (despite all he achieved for us) and presumably of the previous manager's too as he has said we have to do much better than we have in the past. Good on him if he achieves that but it will take some doing and the time to crow (if crowing about how much better you are is your thing - although it is pretty low rent IMHO even when you have something significant to crow about) is when he has actually achieved this. |
So given that we were "bleeding points" under Monk, whatever that's supposed to mean, I take it we'd have finished higher last season if we didn't sack Laudrup.
He was doing a very good of maintaining around a point per game over the last year in charge and there's nothing to suggest he would have improved on that in the last four months last season. |  | | |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 19:39 - Sep 30 with 1380 views | ScoobyWho |
Gary is the product of a clever system, and long may coaches flourish as a result of it, be that Garry or his replacement. |  |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 01:21 - Nov 10 with 1267 views | Parlay |
25th Prem game in charge, and now two thirds of the way to equaling the Premier League matches managed by Brendan Rodgers....
Garry Monk - 1.44 points per game (54.7 pts per 38 game season)
Brendan Rodgers - 1.23 points per game (47 pts per 38 game season)
Michael Laudrup - 1.12 points per game (42.5 pts per 38 game season)
The desire in the team and the work ethic is a different world and long may this continue. [Post edited 10 Nov 2014 1:24]
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:54 - Nov 10 with 1174 views | macman |
I have to say I do not understand this obsession with statistics. To my knowledge it may help a bit in the team's self confidence and hence maybe intimidate the opposition, but other than that this weekend's result does not matter any more than the colour of Monk's underwear.
Koemann is having an unbelievable season so far, but he could be out in a year from now whether he is the best the have ever seen or not.
BR almost won the PL last season - he could be out in three months and people in Liverpool may argue if he was the best or just lucky to have Suarez. Surely neither is the truth. | | | |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:58 - Nov 10 with 1161 views | Parlay |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:54 - Nov 10 by macman |
I have to say I do not understand this obsession with statistics. To my knowledge it may help a bit in the team's self confidence and hence maybe intimidate the opposition, but other than that this weekend's result does not matter any more than the colour of Monk's underwear.
Koemann is having an unbelievable season so far, but he could be out in a year from now whether he is the best the have ever seen or not.
BR almost won the PL last season - he could be out in three months and people in Liverpool may argue if he was the best or just lucky to have Suarez. Surely neither is the truth. |
That argument is particularly flawed because in correlation with these managers heads being on the line, would be a swift downturn in these "stats". 18 points from 11 games is also stats. Why keep a tally of goals scored? Assists made? Passing accuracy?
Stats are vital in todays game and used by top clubs the world over for that very reason. | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:17 - Nov 10 with 1128 views | JackSomething |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 11:58 - Nov 10 by Parlay |
That argument is particularly flawed because in correlation with these managers heads being on the line, would be a swift downturn in these "stats". 18 points from 11 games is also stats. Why keep a tally of goals scored? Assists made? Passing accuracy?
Stats are vital in todays game and used by top clubs the world over for that very reason. |
I thought this thread existed to wind up those who thought (and those who still think) Monk was a bad replacement for the sainted Laudrup.  | |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:24 - Nov 10 with 1100 views | Parlay |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:17 - Nov 10 by JackSomething |
I thought this thread existed to wind up those who thought (and those who still think) Monk was a bad replacement for the sainted Laudrup. |
Don't be so cynical.
*Whistle* | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 15:05 - Jan 24 with 934 views | Dizzy |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 12:17 - Nov 10 by JackSomething |
I thought this thread existed to wind up those who thought (and those who still think) Monk was a bad replacement for the sainted Laudrup. |
Hmmmm |  | | |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:28 - Feb 1 with 872 views | exiledclaseboy |
Any chance of an update to this stat, Parlay? | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:29 - Feb 1 with 862 views | Parlay |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:28 - Feb 1 by exiledclaseboy |
Any chance of an update to this stat, Parlay? |
Aye ill get the calculator out in a bit | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:30 - Feb 1 with 856 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:29 - Feb 1 by Parlay |
Aye ill get the calculator out in a bit |
Tidy darts, ta. | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:33 - Feb 1 with 843 views | monmouth |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:28 - Feb 1 by exiledclaseboy |
Any chance of an update to this stat, Parlay? |
9 points ahead of last season at this point, 6 points ahead of Rodgers season and equal to our golden season where we got to 40 after 28 and then went down the sh1tter. |  |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:36 - Feb 1 with 825 views | Parlay |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:33 - Feb 1 by monmouth |
9 points ahead of last season at this point, 6 points ahead of Rodgers season and equal to our golden season where we got to 40 after 28 and then went down the sh1tter. |
It is a total stat not just a season v season comparison. Every league game managed.
Feel free to do the match for me. | |
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| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:38 - Feb 1 with 818 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Garry Monk - best managerial record for Swansea in Prem history on 20:33 - Feb 1 by monmouth |
9 points ahead of last season at this point, 6 points ahead of Rodgers season and equal to our golden season where we got to 40 after 28 and then went down the sh1tter. |
Imagine how well we'd be doing if we weren't so rubbish at football. | |
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