| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail 11:26 - Dec 11 with 8074 views | WanderR |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20677515
"The number of foreign-born residents in England and Wales has risen by nearly three million since 2001 to 7.5 million people, the 2011 census shows.
The most common birthplaces outside of the UK for residents are India, Poland and Pakistan. The number of ethnic white British has dropped by 7%."
"- Muslims now make up 4.8% of the population of England and Wales
- The white British population has fallen 400,000 since 2001, now 80% down from 87%
- 45% of Londoners are white British, down from 58% in 2001
- 4.8 million people hold a foreign passport: 2.3 million from the EU and 2.4 million from outside the EU" |  |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 11:56 - Dec 11 with 6323 views | Brightonhoop |
Yep. They fail to mention unemployed Jobseekers get £70 a week whilst our Glorious MP's receive a £160 groceries allowance each week. |  | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 12:12 - Dec 11 with 6275 views | Lblock |
So as I'm one of the 45% in London does that mean I now officially can count myself as a "minority" and start up my own little groups and be entitled to benefits?
If I dont get my way and "buck the norm" can I claim discrimination"?
Will there be a flood of bleeding heart liberals rushing to defend my honour, my culture (WTF is that) and fight my cause and case?
As Amy said "No! No! No!"
I'll just continue being the mindless minority then.
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 12:26 - Dec 11 with 6256 views | real_loftus |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 12:12 - Dec 11 by Lblock |
So as I'm one of the 45% in London does that mean I now officially can count myself as a "minority" and start up my own little groups and be entitled to benefits?
If I dont get my way and "buck the norm" can I claim discrimination"?
Will there be a flood of bleeding heart liberals rushing to defend my honour, my culture (WTF is that) and fight my cause and case?
As Amy said "No! No! No!"
I'll just continue being the mindless minority then.
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Sounds like you need an association of lawyers to represent you? |  |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 13:31 - Dec 11 with 6194 views | westolian |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 12:26 - Dec 11 by real_loftus |
Sounds like you need an association of lawyers to represent you? |
Great idea - surprised nobodys ever thought of that !
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 13:37 - Dec 11 with 6182 views | Metallica_Hoop |
Interesting debate/slanging match going on the BBC site.
I'm not commenting, I've already had two removed from one of the Europe ones today.
Apparently "Surrender Monkey" and "Quisling" are racist  
If I commented It would certainly be the hat-rick. |  |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 17:07 - Dec 11 with 6098 views | gueRRilla |
I guess we know now how all those Maori's in Australia and New Zealand feel, or the native tribes in South Africa, Rhodesia etc feel, or the Spanish in their seaside towns, or the Catholics in Northern Ireland, or the native Americans in both the U.S. and Canada. Immigration and emigration has been happening as long as there have been people. Like it or lump it, eventually races will intermingle and past "natives" will be little more than a historical footnote.
Worth bearing in mind that there are huge white Irish and French populations in London as well. London is the 6th largest French city in the world didn't you know! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18234930 |  | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 18:22 - Dec 11 with 6034 views | komradkirk |
And where will us poor Ulster Protestants go when we have been driven into the sea?
back to where we came from i guess. |  | | |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 18:59 - Dec 11 with 6006 views | gueRRilla |
Aborigines  Yes of course. And I'm in no way saying that anyone from Northern Ireland, Australia or anywhere else should be driven out of their homes! My point was that there are always waves of immigration and emigration and there will always continue to be so. I just find it moronic when people from the U.K. give out about immigration given our history of emigration, colonisation and empire. Not that I thought the OP was moaning about that in the first place! | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 19:04 - Dec 11 with 5998 views | TheBlob |
Present day Italians bear no resemblance to the ancient Romans.That's the trouble with Empire,when it collapses the former subjects follow you home. |  |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 19:25 - Dec 11 with 5965 views | komradkirk |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 18:59 - Dec 11 by gueRRilla |
Aborigines Yes of course. And I'm in no way saying that anyone from Northern Ireland, Australia or anywhere else should be driven out of their homes! My point was that there are always waves of immigration and emigration and there will always continue to be so. I just find it moronic when people from the U.K. give out about immigration given our history of emigration, colonisation and empire. Not that I thought the OP was moaning about that in the first place! |
ignore me,"insecure leaderless loyalist"currently. | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 19:50 - Dec 11 with 5945 views | HollowayRanger |
so my father and grandfathers generation fought for nothing
we still ended up being invaded |  |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 19:56 - Dec 11 with 5935 views | derbyhoop |
Go to any major city and it is a cosmopolitan melting pot. I'm currently working in Dublin where my lunch companions are Irish, French, Spanish and Polish. It sounds like the opening line to a bad joke but it's true. There are plenty of Indians and Africans around as well.
My parents were Irish born. In the 1950s they were greeted with signs saying "no blacks, no dogs, no Irish". This year 90,000 British were cheering a Somali refugee to 2 gold medals for Great Britain.
Get used to the changes.
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:05 - Dec 11 with 5920 views | Lblock |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 18:59 - Dec 11 by gueRRilla |
Aborigines Yes of course. And I'm in no way saying that anyone from Northern Ireland, Australia or anywhere else should be driven out of their homes! My point was that there are always waves of immigration and emigration and there will always continue to be so. I just find it moronic when people from the U.K. give out about immigration given our history of emigration, colonisation and empire. Not that I thought the OP was moaning about that in the first place! |
Good old bigoted me says we conquered and modernised the world.
Did a lot of damage to though I grant you
The unchecked immigration of this small wealthy island of ours is compounded by our policy of giving to all at the expense of ourselves
We should put British people first.
These are people who are trackable and culpable via NI numbers etc
Maybe then we can focus on reducing the homegrown trash we have and shaping a better society
First and biggest priority is the Lords team Queens Park Rangers FC grab a win!!! | |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:17 - Dec 11 with 5902 views | klr |
I see it more of a western disease, many I suppose would call it an inevitable consequence of Colonisation.
I guess I'm just a racist old bigot, but celebrating the wholesale import of other culture's & religions problems ?
Nope, not for me.
Many countries around the world have simply not gone down this road, China for instance does not have a single foreigner living in their country on full socialist welfare, Western countries have tens of millions of foreigners within them living on full socialist welfare, what is the benefit to the host country ?
Denmark has the strictest anti Immigration laws in Europe yet one of the highest qualities of life in the World.
Not against Immigration whatsoever, but this is something completely different, something destructive & frightening that no one wanted & no one voted for, this is a very very dark path that we have been led down.
For those of you that think this ends happily ever after, then good luck to you, I wish I felt like that, I really do. |  | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:20 - Dec 11 with 5898 views | TGRRRSSS |
far more than 2.3m from EU for a start. Try 5 I reckon. |  | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:29 - Dec 11 with 5884 views | derbyhoop |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:20 - Dec 11 by TGRRRSSS |
far more than 2.3m from EU for a start. Try 5 I reckon. |
On what basis? The official statistics are wrong?
There's plenty of Brits living in Spain, France and other EU countries. It's called freedom of movement between member states and is enshrined in the EU treaties stretching back to 1973. | |
| "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the Earth all one's lifetime." (Mark Twain)
Find me on twitter @derbyhoop and now on Bluesky |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:33 - Dec 11 with 5878 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:29 - Dec 11 by derbyhoop |
On what basis? The official statistics are wrong?
There's plenty of Brits living in Spain, France and other EU countries. It's called freedom of movement between member states and is enshrined in the EU treaties stretching back to 1973. |
I'd say they couldnt even get the population of London right to the nearest Million, that's what I think of "The official statistics"
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:36 - Dec 11 with 5870 views | klr |
80 Million registered with the NHS apparently. | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:39 - Dec 11 with 5864 views | TGRRRSSS |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:29 - Dec 11 by derbyhoop |
On what basis? The official statistics are wrong?
There's plenty of Brits living in Spain, France and other EU countries. It's called freedom of movement between member states and is enshrined in the EU treaties stretching back to 1973. |
I'm well aware of Brits living abroad, but I don't believe it's only 2.3m simple as that. ONly 80% of people responded for a start. | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:47 - Dec 11 with 5851 views | WarfieldHoop |
Could the measure of a good society be drawn upon the amount of people who want to be part of it? | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:49 - Dec 11 with 5842 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:47 - Dec 11 by WarfieldHoop |
Could the measure of a good society be drawn upon the amount of people who want to be part of it? |
I should imagine the full Socialist welfare is a motivator as well.
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:16 - Dec 11 with 5819 views | HollowayRanger |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 20:29 - Dec 11 by derbyhoop |
On what basis? The official statistics are wrong?
There's plenty of Brits living in Spain, France and other EU countries. It's called freedom of movement between member states and is enshrined in the EU treaties stretching back to 1973. |
arent this stats based on the 2011 censes if so
how many didnt even fill it in? not just brits but non brits as well
will only get worse as the romanians move in next year then the turks a few years later,the inner city schools are full of overseas peoples children born here and there
where they all going live
where they all going to go to school
where they all going to work
if they dont whos going to pay for them all
hows the transport, power supplys water supply ect ect going to cope
hows the nhs going to cope
this is a tiny island and is busting at the seems sure theres loads of from up north but no one wants to live there they all want to be in the south east
and this aint about colour its about numbers of people
only way i can see it ending is with britain going down hill scraping pensions for all but the very poorest same with social wellfare nhs ect dont matter if you paid your subs dues all your life ect 20-30 years time your'll get nothing from the state if you have any savings or your own home | |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:36 - Dec 11 with 2035 views | Stanisgod |
+1. But never fear , had a letter the other day telling me I've got to work til i'm 66 despite never being on the dole for 40 years of working. It's mugs like me who are going to be paying for them to come over when the Romanians etc unleash themselves next year, a la the 500,000 Poles etc etc , so don't fear for them, I and my kind will be slaving longer so they can send child benifit back home for kids that have not yet set foot in the country.  |  |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:42 - Dec 11 with 2029 views | RBlock |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:16 - Dec 11 by HollowayRanger |
arent this stats based on the 2011 censes if so
how many didnt even fill it in? not just brits but non brits as well
will only get worse as the romanians move in next year then the turks a few years later,the inner city schools are full of overseas peoples children born here and there
where they all going live
where they all going to go to school
where they all going to work
if they dont whos going to pay for them all
hows the transport, power supplys water supply ect ect going to cope
hows the nhs going to cope
this is a tiny island and is busting at the seems sure theres loads of from up north but no one wants to live there they all want to be in the south east
and this aint about colour its about numbers of people
only way i can see it ending is with britain going down hill scraping pensions for all but the very poorest same with social wellfare nhs ect dont matter if you paid your subs dues all your life ect 20-30 years time your'll get nothing from the state if you have any savings or your own home |
It's an expanding society mate. They need somewhere to live? We build more houses which creates jobs. They pay taxes, we build schools, employ teachers, more jobs. The infrastructure is being strained? We expand it however that may be. The city will grow bigger, it is inevitable. |  | | |
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